Confessions from quality control - The Frontera factory

Confessions from quality control - The Frontera factory

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98elise

26,502 posts

161 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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I once hired a frontera for a day. It was possibly the worst vehicle I have ever driven. It was slow, noisy and very thristy.

2ono

552 posts

107 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Ha ha, keep them coming.

Lord Pikey

3,257 posts

215 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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More please Sir

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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lol. Very entertaining. And utter dystopia.

We wouldn't be laughing, though, if we should visit a production facility in, say, China or South Korea.

If you fancy writing a book, I reckon you have enough anecdotes to weave them round a core theme.

Don1

15,939 posts

208 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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More!

crashley

1,568 posts

180 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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My Dad had a new BMW 540 stolen off a petrol station forecourt in around 1993 or 1994 from somewhere in Dagenham - he had always been fairly lax and from what i'm told just left the keys in the ignition whilst he paid. Anyway, we never got the car back and Dad replaced it with a 2.3TD red Frontera (J637 XPU). It took me and my sisters everywhere for years, and actually never let him down, despite it being absolute crap and possibly the slowest vehicle on the road. It eventually met it's demise only a few years ago and Dad shockingly replaced it with another under powered utterly terrible 4x4; the Chevrolet Captiva.

I remember the Frontera always had bits of paper stuffed in gaps between the plastic to stop the damn thing rattling. Honestly, i've no idea how he put up with it for so long, one can only guess old age!

trackdemon

12,175 posts

261 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Bookmarked!

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

124 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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I was involved as an IT consultant and had the pleasure of visiting the Rover 75 factory. We were looking at the system that controlled the production line and noticed a few interesting features.

1. No antivirus software was installed. Not an issue if it was not networked but it was and on the main company network from what I could gather.
2. There was no resilience. If the computer failed there was no hot or cold standby system to replace it.
3. It ran on Windows NT4 which whilst not a bad OS wasn't as stable as a Unix system and could easily have been clustered to provide resilience.

When asked if they wanted to cluster it the reply was it would cost too much money. When asked how much it cost to shut down the line the reply was £1m per hour (which even if it was a 10x exaggeration was still a lot more than clustering it in some way!).

I wasn't at all surprised Rover went bust...

smithyithy

7,223 posts

118 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Great thread, eager to hear more!

Especially Daewoo - my parents had an Espero from new laugh

moustache

292 posts

111 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Interesting story, especially as my wife's father owns a 3.2 V6 petrol frontera identical to the one in the picture (including colour)

He complains about the reliability and the cost to run it, not surprising considering its size and the choice of petrol engine in it.


unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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The Crack Fox said:
I can't find a publisher for my children's book*

*"A lovely story, very funny, but it's a bit sexist for our readers" - Penguin Books.
laugh

coopedup

3,741 posts

139 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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More please!!!

Rangeroverover

1,523 posts

111 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Shiley you realise that Rover was always intended to go bust, the £10 purchase was done to get BMW off the hook and to allow the boys in shiny suits to rape a few quid before the inevitable happened

veccy208

1,320 posts

101 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Sad that all these industries with promising starts were killed by lazy staff who wanted to do as little as possible for more money.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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Have you or anyone else done any worked at the Japanese plants in the UK? it would be interesting to hear how they work

Tango13

8,423 posts

176 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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Many years ago my dad bought a new Norton 650 Atlas that kept seizing it's push rods. He eventualy took it back to the factory where they discovered the oil feed lines were full of solder from where the banjo fittings had been braized on.

He described the factory as ancient and decrepit, even by the standards of the 1960's!

Mastodon2

13,825 posts

165 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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Willy Nilly said:
Have you or anyone else done any worked at the Japanese plants in the UK? it would be interesting to hear how they work
Quite a bit different to the story in the OP I expect, 5S and kanbans up the ying yang, kaizens on the regular to implement process improvements. The McLaren P1 production line is like the ultimate 5S line, which is easier when you don't have to make many cars I suppose.

bomma220

14,488 posts

125 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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OP! shout More please!!

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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The Crack Fox said:
Slumped in the drivers seat, boots on the dashboard, smoking a fragile looking roll-up and simultaneously eating a limp sandwich, sat Dave. “Fag break” he said, dropping crumbs and ash everywhere. “Come back later”.

I never did.
I used to work for a large US owned and managed OEM supplier. Quality first we were always told and anything less than 100% was reworked or scrapped. After 10 years the Yanks sold up and a British conglomerate came in and cut staff, costs, QC and finally moved production to Eastern Europe. First the quality went and then the jobs. Dave's attitude may have been rubbish but the ste probably started much higher and travelled downhill.

Dr G

15,167 posts

242 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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bomma220 said:
OP! shout More please!!
I'll 3rd that; love old stories like these ever since reading Rivethead smile