Confessions from quality control - The Frontera factory
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The Crack Fox said:
chrisga said:
Pledged for a hard copy. Dad served his apprenticeship with Rootes Group and worked in the same group right through until his retirement from Peugeot. Should love it for his Christmas present.
I hope he likes it! Peugeot's (Roote's) Ryton-on-Dunsmore plant was one of the worst I ever visited, there's a chapter on it in the book. Is he French, by any chance? Hope not... Edited by chrisga on Thursday 4th August 18:54
Edited by chrisga on Thursday 4th August 19:56
Have you done much promotion of the kickstarter campaign outside this thread and motorpunk?
To get over 400 pledges from an ambiguous thread title, where people had to read about 15 pages before a book was even mentioned, is really good going.
P.S. Please send the pdf's out before next Monday as it'll be a good read for my holiday.
To get over 400 pledges from an ambiguous thread title, where people had to read about 15 pages before a book was even mentioned, is really good going.
P.S. Please send the pdf's out before next Monday as it'll be a good read for my holiday.
Great, put in for 2 copies of the paperback, in laws should love one, really looking forward to receiving them
Remember working at longbridge briefly while doing my apprenticeship on the electricity board contracting arm, first day on job handed a set of cosh assessments and safety directives that was like a telephone directory, told to "drink your coffee, have a look through that and sign to say you understand/agree and I'll be back in 5 to show you the job." Sums up british industry/management attitude IMO.
Remember working at longbridge briefly while doing my apprenticeship on the electricity board contracting arm, first day on job handed a set of cosh assessments and safety directives that was like a telephone directory, told to "drink your coffee, have a look through that and sign to say you understand/agree and I'll be back in 5 to show you the job." Sums up british industry/management attitude IMO.
The Crack Fox said:
Thank you!
Phoenix 4? It's a subject that has been done many times on here, I didn't know any of them personally, but knew first hand what a bunch of parasites they were. Rover couldn't get credit with suppliers, we could see the end coming a long time before it happened, insufficient sales to even tread water financially, greater production capacity than they needed, Pheonix 4 taking out huge sums to feather their nest, workforce seemingly oblivious to the fact that a company so well established could ever close. The irony is, as I mention in the book, that the 75 was a really good car. Well made too (no, really).
Thanks for the insight, that it's covered in the book to a degree is a bonus. I've not read that much about it on here tbh but thought if anyone had inside info, it might be you.Phoenix 4? It's a subject that has been done many times on here, I didn't know any of them personally, but knew first hand what a bunch of parasites they were. Rover couldn't get credit with suppliers, we could see the end coming a long time before it happened, insufficient sales to even tread water financially, greater production capacity than they needed, Pheonix 4 taking out huge sums to feather their nest, workforce seemingly oblivious to the fact that a company so well established could ever close. The irony is, as I mention in the book, that the 75 was a really good car. Well made too (no, really).
The 75 was indeed a very well made car. I used to work for a automotive glazing firm and having removed a few windscreens from a 75, half the top of a dashboard, and some of the aperture as well while trying to get the screen out it was exceptionally well put together.
marshall100 said:
Thanks for the insight, that it's covered in the book to a degree is a bonus. I've not read that much about it on here tbh but thought if anyone had inside info, it might be you.
The 75 was indeed a very well made car. I used to work for a automotive glazing firm and having removed a few windscreens from a 75, half the top of a dashboard, and some of the aperture as well while trying to get the screen out it was exceptionally well put together.
The early ones were really very nice, but they got steadily worse once the Phoenix 4 took over. The final ones are pretty horrible, flimsy feeling things. The list of penny pinching things they took out in "Project Drive" is quite depressing. Build a car where the wood dashboard is a big feature and then replace it with plastic wood 2 years into production. Well done guys. IMHO behaviour like that gives truth to the lie that they ever intended MGR to have a long term future.The 75 was indeed a very well made car. I used to work for a automotive glazing firm and having removed a few windscreens from a 75, half the top of a dashboard, and some of the aperture as well while trying to get the screen out it was exceptionally well put together.
They never quite reached the depths of the Rover 25 though, which actually lost it's wheel arch liners by the end.
Edited by dme123 on Monday 8th August 13:03
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