Anyone else falling out of love with driving a 'fast' car?
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I somewhat feel the same (falling out of love)....coming from a slightly different angle - was looking to spend a little spare cash on something that will tickle me but I know realise that £25k isn't really what it used to be.....
Probably going to get shot down for this but none of these modern day cars feel special or have any drama about them (I have a 911 964 that put a smile on my face every time I get in but unfortunately lack of practicality in the city means that is has to be a 2nd car)....
Also, another annoyance are these darn finance deals out there (& I am too old school to leverage myself up for one) means that everyone can afford anything...
Maybe I am just cynical but I just put it down to getting old!
Probably going to get shot down for this but none of these modern day cars feel special or have any drama about them (I have a 911 964 that put a smile on my face every time I get in but unfortunately lack of practicality in the city means that is has to be a 2nd car)....
Also, another annoyance are these darn finance deals out there (& I am too old school to leverage myself up for one) means that everyone can afford anything...
Maybe I am just cynical but I just put it down to getting old!
veccy208 said:
Buy an old classic. You get fun out of driving, restoring, maintaining and continuously learning new things. That is where the ultimate pleasure in motoring is 
Problem with that is the prices. They have all doubled at least from when I was looking initially. Lets say 2005 - 2006 so in the last 10 years. We all know about the E-Types and the 911s going mad but the 80s SL, Trumph Spitfire, MG variants are all mad money. Maybe its just me but classic motoring is getting prohibitively expensive for what it is now.
Don't get me wrong here they cars are great, full of character "they don't make em like that any more" and I have driven loads of them. The issue is I find myself looking at bang for buck and they just start to come up short.
For the cost of a decent Stag you can get a 650i Convertible. For the cost of a ropey E-type you can get a TVR Tuscan AND a Range Rover nearly new.
I find myself starting to look at the "modern classic" as where I want to be. Not that I like them more but a nice condition running MGB with an MOT is not as good as an E46 M3 and they are both 12k.
BluePurpleRed said:
Problem with that is the prices. They have all doubled at least from when I was looking initially. Lets say 2005 - 2006 so in the last 10 years.
We all know about the E-Types and the 911s going mad but the 80s SL, Trumph Spitfire, MG variants are all mad money. Maybe its just me but classic motoring is getting prohibitively expensive for what it is now.
Don't get me wrong here they cars are great, full of character "they don't make em like that any more" and I have driven loads of them. The issue is I find myself looking at bang for buck and they just start to come up short.
For the cost of a decent Stag you can get a 650i Convertible. For the cost of a ropey E-type you can get a TVR Tuscan AND a Range Rover nearly new.
I find myself starting to look at the "modern classic" as where I want to be. Not that I like them more but a nice condition running MGB with an MOT is not as good as an E46 M3 and they are both 12k.
True, I was leaving that quite open though, I couldn't afford the 'proper classics' but even 80s/90's cars before electronics got very expensive and difficult to work on. I realise some people might not look on these as classics but they are cars from my childhood.We all know about the E-Types and the 911s going mad but the 80s SL, Trumph Spitfire, MG variants are all mad money. Maybe its just me but classic motoring is getting prohibitively expensive for what it is now.
Don't get me wrong here they cars are great, full of character "they don't make em like that any more" and I have driven loads of them. The issue is I find myself looking at bang for buck and they just start to come up short.
For the cost of a decent Stag you can get a 650i Convertible. For the cost of a ropey E-type you can get a TVR Tuscan AND a Range Rover nearly new.
I find myself starting to look at the "modern classic" as where I want to be. Not that I like them more but a nice condition running MGB with an MOT is not as good as an E46 M3 and they are both 12k.
I suppose its because I enjoy poking and working at cars too, not everyone's cup of tea.
coppice said:
No it isn't - Micras are easy enough to deal with; the real problem is an A4 TDI , driver with shades on and because it's an S Line he 's going to show you he could have been Jason Plato. Or even worse- sorry bikers- is being overtaken by a superbike on the straight before the bends and then being forced to watch the bloody thing crawl through the corners - as I have yet to encounter a biker who let me by, being in denial that anything with four wheels can go a lot quicker on the right road
Absolutely.Actually the biker thing is pretty rare up here but it has happened. I knew who it was though (a colleague) so I gave him a right good piss-taking when we got to work.
The TDI drivers are dreadful though. I don't mind little old ladies in hatchbacks. One reasonable line of sight and you're safely in front. It's the TDI drivers who need to prove something that stab at the brakes mid-corner but have to accelerate as hard as possible out of the straights. Now the acceleration of most 2.0 diesels is still relatively woeful compared to anything fast, but it does mean that to overtake you have to commit to very illegal speeds for that move which can land you in hot water. TDI driver will genuinely believe he's going as fast as any car can safely travel, and if he has a dash cam you just know you're going to be on Youtube later that day with registration number and "Dangerous speeding overtake" in the video title.
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ts.Recently looked at "Quick" cars whilst deciding on my next car. I live in Surrey so there's lots of country roads with err, interesting surfaces. Ended up with a Swift Sport which is much more suited to where I am. It's not going to out pull 2.0 rep mobiles off the lights, but as opposed to being able to go quickly, it's more fun to drive quickly.
jamieduff1981 said:
Absolutely.
Actually the biker thing is pretty rare up here but it has happened. I knew who it was though (a colleague) so I gave him a right good piss-taking when we got to work.
The TDI drivers are dreadful though. I don't mind little old ladies in hatchbacks. One reasonable line of sight and you're safely in front. It's the TDI drivers who need to prove something that stab at the brakes mid-corner but have to accelerate as hard as possible out of the straights. Now the acceleration of most 2.0 diesels is still relatively woeful compared to anything fast, but it does mean that to overtake you have to commit to very illegal speeds for that move which can land you in hot water. TDI driver will genuinely believe he's going as fast as any car can safely travel, and if he has a dash cam you just know you're going to be on Youtube later that day with registration number and "Dangerous speeding overtake" in the video title.
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In my experience they are less likely to accelerate as hard as possible out of every corner, but almost certain to accelerate as hard as possible when you appear to be planning and executing an overtake, especially if in doing so they may close a gap you intended to use.Actually the biker thing is pretty rare up here but it has happened. I knew who it was though (a colleague) so I gave him a right good piss-taking when we got to work.
The TDI drivers are dreadful though. I don't mind little old ladies in hatchbacks. One reasonable line of sight and you're safely in front. It's the TDI drivers who need to prove something that stab at the brakes mid-corner but have to accelerate as hard as possible out of the straights. Now the acceleration of most 2.0 diesels is still relatively woeful compared to anything fast, but it does mean that to overtake you have to commit to very illegal speeds for that move which can land you in hot water. TDI driver will genuinely believe he's going as fast as any car can safely travel, and if he has a dash cam you just know you're going to be on Youtube later that day with registration number and "Dangerous speeding overtake" in the video title.
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ts.av185 said:
I find the general level of delusion of the typical 'Aldi' driver to be much higher than any other mainstream repmobile......especially when its a diesel st line whatever and said moron is wearing sunglasses to hide the clouds and their embarassment perhaps....
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That's why I went back to BM cos the image of 'Aldi' drivers isn't as good as that of proper high performance cars like BM. t line whatever and said moron is wearing sunglasses to hide the clouds and their embarassment perhaps....:I still like driving quick but I'm lucky cos with a Command driving position I can see more, like on bends. Maybe I'll feel different when I'm older, but I'll probably be in a Jag by then, so it won't have the BMs awesome performance anyhow.
TarpaTow said:
av185 said:
I find the general level of delusion of the typical 'Aldi' driver to be much higher than any other mainstream repmobile......especially when its a diesel st line whatever and said moron is wearing sunglasses to hide the clouds and their embarassment perhaps....:
Maybe I'll feel different when I'm older, but I'll probably be in a Jag by then, t line whatever and said moron is wearing sunglasses to hide the clouds and their embarassment perhaps....::Well, if we discount the oft-repeated arguments such as " I need the extra power so I can accelerate very quickly in an emergency avoidance situation",and the " empty roads in the highlands give me an opportunity to take corners the way the car should be used" and so on, the reality is that all roads are speed limited. However, based on what I have read:
SO:
Is the ideal car:?
-maximum speed (say 100MPH).
(For the sake of argument we will install a delimiter for track days activated by the marshal).
Let's face it, anyone who ever posts about exceeding 100MPH her is eviscerated for irresponsibility.
-optimal excitement at ( say) 50 mph
-manual
-rapid acceleration to 60 MPH (less than 4 secs) .falls off gradually later
That pretty much wipes out most of the cars in production today.
Any takers for the PH GT???
SO:
Is the ideal car:?
-maximum speed (say 100MPH).
(For the sake of argument we will install a delimiter for track days activated by the marshal).
Let's face it, anyone who ever posts about exceeding 100MPH her is eviscerated for irresponsibility.
-optimal excitement at ( say) 50 mph
-manual
-rapid acceleration to 60 MPH (less than 4 secs) .falls off gradually later
That pretty much wipes out most of the cars in production today.
Any takers for the PH GT???
RDMcG said:
-maximum speed (say 100MPH).
(For the sake of argument we will install a delimiter for track days activated by the marshal).
Let's face it, anyone who ever posts about exceeding 100MPH her is eviscerated for irresponsibility.
-optimal excitement at ( say) 50 mph
-manual
-rapid acceleration to 60 MPH (less than 4 secs) .falls off gradually later
That pretty much wipes out most of the cars in production today.
(For the sake of argument we will install a delimiter for track days activated by the marshal).
Let's face it, anyone who ever posts about exceeding 100MPH her is eviscerated for irresponsibility.
-optimal excitement at ( say) 50 mph
-manual
-rapid acceleration to 60 MPH (less than 4 secs) .falls off gradually later
That pretty much wipes out most of the cars in production today.
RDMcG said:
Is the ideal car:?
-maximum speed (say 100MPH).
(For the sake of argument we will install a delimiter for track days activated by the marshal).
Let's face it, anyone who ever posts about exceeding 100MPH her is eviscerated for irresponsibility.
-optimal excitement at ( say) 50 mph
-manual
-rapid acceleration to 60 MPH (less than 4 secs) .falls off gradually later
That pretty much wipes out most of the cars in production today.
Any takers for the PH GT???
Noise.-maximum speed (say 100MPH).
(For the sake of argument we will install a delimiter for track days activated by the marshal).
Let's face it, anyone who ever posts about exceeding 100MPH her is eviscerated for irresponsibility.
-optimal excitement at ( say) 50 mph
-manual
-rapid acceleration to 60 MPH (less than 4 secs) .falls off gradually later
That pretty much wipes out most of the cars in production today.
Any takers for the PH GT???
It's got to sound good.
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