Car trends that you hope die

Car trends that you hope die

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shirt

22,571 posts

201 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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Depends how big the cupboard!

I was referring more to the inference that an elise has rock hard suspension when they don’t. Lotus have always gone for a softly sprung, stiff chassis.

AppleJuice

2,154 posts

85 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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DoubleD said:
Isnt the mondeo known for being a pretty good handling car? Not bad when you consider that it can carry a cupboard, something an elise cant do.
Depends on the size of the cupboard - a bedside cupboard might fit on the passenger seat.

csd19

2,190 posts

117 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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Nickbrapp said:
The mixing of xenon and halogen or led and halogen bulbs in light clusters. So annoying

BMW have done it again on the new 5 series’s led main and dipped and stupid halogen indicators

My leon is full led apart from the rear indicators, I find it annoying!
BMW have done that for years on new cars haven't they, so that when the facelift LCI models come out the lights get an upgrade to all xenon / all led.

luckystrike

536 posts

181 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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shirt said:
Elises are softly sprung and roll quite a bit. Elise has both ride and handling whereas the mondeo has neither
The mk3 and mk4 mondeos are pretty much universally praised for both their ride and handling. They’re not just good for what they are, they’re good full stop.

AppleJuice

2,154 posts

85 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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csd19 said:
BMW have done that for years on new cars haven't they, so that when the facelift LCI models come out the lights get an upgrade to all xenon / all led.
I concur - E60/E61 onwards IIRC.

CABC

5,577 posts

101 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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shirt said:
Depends how big the cupboard!

I was referring more to the inference that an elise has rock hard suspension when they don’t. Lotus have always gone for a softly sprung, stiff chassis.
true, Lotus have both. But apart from their talent isn't weight playing a huge role here? An Elise doesn't need rock hard passive suspension to make it feel sporty in all circumstances whereas 1.5 tonnes+ does. That and some designers believing firm=sporty!
I wouldn't say the Elise rolls, thats the MX5 and jinba ittai.

AppleJuice

2,154 posts

85 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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JLR endlessly cranking out more power from its supercharged 5.0 V8.

Rather - create a 4.0 Ingenium-based twin-turbo V8 (petrol and diesel (XJ and Range Rover - the Ford 4.4 V8 will be replaced at some point)) churning out 450-500 PS and then an Ingenium-based 6.0 twin-turbo V12 putting out 600 PS?

There would still be a V8-engined Range Rover (and a Project Iceberg successor too) and with a V12 it could mean that JLR would have a Bentayga W121 competitor - as it seems the Range Rover is heading in that direction - not to mention an A8 6.0 TFSI / M760Li / S600 competitor with the revival of the XJ12 moniker.

Further pipe-dream - put the 6.0 V12 in a successor to the XJ220 (AWD possibly too)...

1 X7 60i as well