RE: Range Rover Sport SVR vs Porsche Cayenne Turbo S

[paralla]

Power Steering Plus is only software. It's disabled when you push the sport button.

It's often maligned but very easily turned off.

[Fury1630]

Keep it up Dan - you're not writing for "Farmer's Monthly" after all.

Interesting that there's photos of both cars on a bit of a muddy track, but no words?

[epom]

Would much prefer the Porsche (in Diesel)

[Ozzie Osmond]

Fury1630 said:

Interesting that there's photos of both cars on a bit of a muddy track....

On track? Does this imply a forthcoming SUV racing series?

[Behemoth]

Ozzie Osmond said:

On track? Does this imply a forthcoming SUV racing series?

Why not? Monster trucks pulls in the crowds & is arguably a more exciting spectacle than F1 these days

[V8LM]

I do agree with this:

wtdoom said:

I'd go as far as to say it's an insult to mention these cars in the same breath .

[gizlaroc]

seefarr said:

gizlaroc said:

I suppose you buy your food from Poundland, your clothes from the market, and holiday in your back garden?

Or your a Civil Servant?

gizlaroc said:

I get the impression D Cup feels he should have put more effort in throughout his life, he sounds bitter?

gizlaroc said:

Another ignorant judgemental tt.

gizlaroc said:

Oh dear, someone else who is in a dead end job and moans down the pub about everyone else in his life.

Why do you feel the need to insult everyone who disagrees with your point of view?

If you read the posts I'm replying to, you will see I'm being obviously rude to give back some of what has been given out.
I'm trying to make a point, in that as much as you may think you're better than everyone else someone looking at you probably thinks the same.

[Mikeyl2010]

Undoubtedly both machines are impressive engineering exercises but I really don't see the point. All I see is great V8 engines going to waste in big heavy boxes. They certainly don't deserve the title SUV as there is nothing sports car like about them. The only benefit of the Porsche at least is it provides the company money to develop actual sports cars. By the way no true petrol head would ever defend either of these fakes. I thought this was supposed to be website for genuine car enthusiasts!

[Yarlsberg]

toppstuff said:

Then you aren't rural enough. Got a horsebox?

All the farmers I know prefer a Subaru 3.0R Estate hands down to do real rural work. More fun to drive too....

[Impasse]

Yarlsberg said:

All the farmers I know prefer a Subaru 3.0R Estate hands down to do real rural work. More fun to drive too....

All the farmers I know are grumpy sods who wouldn't know fun if it grew amongst the sheep droppings.

[Yarlsberg]

paralla said:

Another JLR product that's inexplicably heavy. Why does it weigh 100kg more than the steel bodied Porsche?

Probably actually made using Tata steel....

[Slimbull]

Oh dear, lots of jealously coming out here.....

Work harder, and you might be able to afford a Land Rover or Porsche.

[wtdoom]

Mikeyl2010 said:

Undoubtedly both machines are impressive engineering exercises but I really don't see the point. All I see is great V8 engines going to waste in big heavy boxes. They certainly don't deserve the title SUV as there is nothing sports car like about them. The only benefit of the Porsche at least is it provides the company money to develop actual sports cars. By the way no true petrol head would ever defend either of these fakes. I thought this was supposed to be website for genuine car enthusiasts!

Mate I am a true petrolhead . I live for cars . All cars and bikes , mine yours anyone's . I have sometimes nearly bankrupted myself building old Porsches and buying things I couldn't afford to rag round a track .'I love my turbo s , it does everything .
Anything that can go under 8 minutes at the ring surely deserves the title sports utility vehicle ? It's genuinely is sporty , for a utility vehicle

[aeropilot]

Dollyman1850 said:

I also have a little polo, A dirty great big American van with Sidepipes and I race a 1960's TVR! What does that make me, Frugal, Poser, international playboy Racing driver, Moonshiner ??

Certainly not a Moonshiner....you need to own a hopped up '40 Ford coupe for that

[toppstuff]

Mikeyl2010 said:

Undoubtedly both machines are impressive engineering exercises but I really don't see the point. All I see is great V8 engines going to waste in big heavy boxes. They certainly don't deserve the title SUV as there is nothing sports car like about them. The only benefit of the Porsche at least is it provides the company money to develop actual sports cars. By the way no true petrol head would ever defend either of these fakes. I thought this was supposed to be website for genuine car enthusiasts!

Completely illogical.

Given that for reasons personal to each , there are plenty that like SUVs, it is the mark of a true petrolhead that when they know they really should have an SUV ( for lifestyle, towing, rural pursuits etc ) they say to themselves: " No. I will not buy the logical diesel. Stuff that. I will choose to buy the thirsty, horrifically depreciating V8 petrol version in spite of its thirst and flaws, because a V8 always trumps a diesel. If I must have an SUV - then make it a fast one !!! "

For me - such a person is a TRUE petrolhead. Someone who goes the V8 route even though it isn't logical and a nasty diesel makes more sense.

To every petrol powered SUV owner i say this: I salute you.

[gizlaroc]

Mikeyl2010 said:

Undoubtedly both machines are impressive engineering exercises but I really don't see the point. All I see is great V8 engines going to waste in big heavy boxes. They certainly don't deserve the title SUV as there is nothing sports car like about them. The only benefit of the Porsche at least is it provides the company money to develop actual sports cars. By the way no true petrol head would ever defend either of these fakes. I thought this was supposed to be website for genuine car enthusiasts!

Did you sign up to say that?

Genuine car enthusiasts just like anything that is a bit ott, these are ott and should be applauded, even if you don't get them.

I don't get the love for convertibles, to me they are just ruining the chassis of a coupe, but I understand why others are prepared to live with a little loss of chassis stiffness as they feel the gain of having the roof down is worth the compromise.

I don't come on here and say "Seriously, the only reason someone buys a convertible is to show off in, to impress the neighbours in as they pull up with their orange skin. It is new money, footballers wives lifestyle, and probably funded on the never never so they can't even afford it."

Which is what most seem to say as soon as anything 4x4 is mentioned.

This is a car enthusiast site, I am just amazed at how many have to slag other peoples choices off, and in such a snide underhand and virile way too.

Hence my responses to some of the 'enthusiasts' who posted on here yesterday.

[aeropilot]

toppstuff said:

Mikeyl2010 said:

Undoubtedly both machines are impressive engineering exercises but I really don't see the point. All I see is great V8 engines going to waste in big heavy boxes. They certainly don't deserve the title SUV as there is nothing sports car like about them. The only benefit of the Porsche at least is it provides the company money to develop actual sports cars. By the way no true petrol head would ever defend either of these fakes. I thought this was supposed to be website for genuine car enthusiasts!

Completely illogical.

Given that for reasons personal to each , there are plenty that like SUVs, it is the mark of a true petrolhead that when they know they really should have an SUV ( for lifestyle, towing, rural pursuits etc ) they say to themselves: " No. I will not buy the logical diesel. Stuff that. I will choose to buy the thirsty, horrifically depreciating V8 petrol version in spite of its thirst and flaws, because a V8 always trumps a diesel. If I must have an SUV - then make it a fast one !!! "

For me - such a person is a TRUE petrolhead. Someone who goes the V8 route even though it isn't logical and a nasty diesel makes more sense.

To every petrol powered SUV owner i say this: I salute you.

[Ozzie Osmond]

gizlaroc said:

This is a car enthusiast site, I am just amazed at how many have to slag other peoples choices off,

Hence my responses to some of the 'enthusiasts' who posted on here yesterday.

Is an SUV a "car" at all, or is it something else? I don't think I've ever met an 'enthusiast' who owns an SUV without a PH car in the other garage. Which kind of makes the point.

[gizlaroc]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Is an SUV a "car" at all, or is it something else? I don't think I've ever met an 'enthusiast' who owns an SUV without a PH car in the other garage. Which kind of makes the point.

I know a few, many of my customers have moved over to them.

Many bought their Range Rovers as second cars, they sat along side the 911, XKR, CSL, GTR etc. And they bought it for the luxury more than anything else. Out of all of those guys only one of them still has another toy, his F-Type, but even he says that he isn't really sure why as he takes the RR every time, all the others have sold up on the 'sports' cars and have bought into a newer RR.

[Ozzie Osmond]

Yup, I guess that's natural evolution as the clock goes round and time continues to tick on all of us.