RE: Range Rover Sport SVR vs Porsche Cayenne Turbo S

[Mikeyl2010]

No need to get so emotional girls! It's just a metal box we are discussing, not third world hunger.

[aeropilot]

Mikeyl2010 said:

No need to get so emotional girls! It's just a metal box we are discussing, not third world hunger.

Third World hunger is not a subject matter I'll ever get emotional about

[Burnham]

I need an SVR in my life.

[jamieduff1981]

I don't have enough money to have one of these V8 SUVs along side my sportier cars, but if I did, I would. Why wouldn't you? I have to make do with a pickup for the donkey work but with more money to spend I'd rather have a faster workhorse - not being able to overtake everything is limiting.

Much as I enjoy PHworthy cars, I'd be pretty screwed without something with high ground clearance and 4WD. Unlike those who live in the warm but wet caravan & old-people world that is Devon, Scotland tends to offer slippery conditions, lots of ice and some deeper snow. And I have to venture off the tarmac occasionally. To suggest an RS6 would be fit for purpose for what my sporty cars can't do is laughable really. A fragile Audi with a ride-height similar to my Cerbera is a ridiculous prospect. Clearly the thoughts of someone who lives in a small town and thinks they're rural.

[Stever]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Is an SUV a "car" at all, or is it something else? I don't think I've ever met an 'enthusiast' who owns an SUV without a PH car in the other garage. Which kind of makes the point.

Who writes this nonsense

I have had my MK1 Cayenne for 6 years used as daily driver, it's not ugly shame on those that don't appreciate beauty when they see it (really) it has got me everywhere in all conditions, it's not the fastest car I have owned but it is plenty quick, very comfortable, well equipped and quite simply the best all round vehicle I have owned. I have never been truly off road and have no real desire to do so but I have towed stranded vehicles off verges, pulled out tree stumps and taken loads of st to the dump. A diesel could do all this with better fuel consumption but I'd hate every minute behind the wheel because the aural pleasure would be missing and I love that bit. BTW my wife hates it but only because of size!

It handles as well as a sporty saloon car and if you can see more ahead and around it is, therefore, better than an estate (they are ugly )

[margerison]

Can we have a 3-way with a BMW X5M in the mix too? ;-)

[ZeroH]

toppstuff said:

Completely illogical.

Given that for reasons personal to each , there are plenty that like SUVs, it is the mark of a true petrolhead that when they know they really should have an SUV ( for lifestyle, towing, rural pursuits etc ) they say to themselves: " No. I will not buy the logical diesel. Stuff that. I will choose to buy the thirsty, horrifically depreciating V8 petrol version in spite of its thirst and flaws, because a V8 always trumps a diesel. If I must have an SUV - then make it a fast one !!! "

For me - such a person is a TRUE petrolhead. Someone who goes the V8 route even though it isn't logical and a nasty diesel makes more sense.

To every petrol powered SUV owner i say this: I salute you.

Top post, Topstuff !

[nickekins]

Just wanted to thank ToppStuff for his comments on Dans (once again) anti SUV sentiment.

I have just ordered a new Macan Turbo to replace a B8 RS4 mainly on my wife having a preference for a taller car. I do believe its a very good car as my RS4 has proven to be.

I would like to see cars judged on their individual merits rather than the sweeping 'market segment' prejudgement that Pistonheads seems to exhibit...

[chappardababbar]

Genuine car enthusiasts just like anything that is a bit ott, these are ott and should be applauded, even if you don't get them.

I don't get the love for convertibles, to me they are just ruining the chassis of a coupe, but I understand why others are prepared to live with a little loss of chassis stiffness as they feel the gain of having the roof down is worth the compromise.

I don't come on here and say "Seriously, the only reason someone buys a convertible is to show off in, to impress the neighbours in as they pull up with their orange skin. It is new money, footballers wives lifestyle, and probably funded on the never never so they can't even afford it."

Which is what most seem to say as soon as anything 4x4 is mentioned.

This is a car enthusiast site, I am just amazed at how many have to slag other peoples choices off, and in such a snide underhand and virile way too.

Hence my responses to some of the 'enthusiasts' who posted on here yesterday.

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^^^^ This

[chappardababbar]

toppstuff said:

Completely illogical.

Given that for reasons personal to each , there are plenty that like SUVs, it is the mark of a true petrolhead that when they know they really should have an SUV ( for lifestyle, towing, rural pursuits etc ) they say to themselves: " No. I will not buy the logical diesel. Stuff that. I will choose to buy the thirsty, horrifically depreciating V8 petrol version in spite of its thirst and flaws, because a V8 always trumps a diesel. If I must have an SUV - then make it a fast one !!! "

For me - such a person is a TRUE petrolhead. Someone who goes the V8 route even though it isn't logical and a nasty diesel makes more sense.

To every petrol powered SUV owner i say this: I salute you.

^^^ I meant this!

[Number 5]

I get the feeling that when this article was written the glass was half empty........

[cautiontothewind]

I ran a GTS for 2 years in London and apart from the small hole someone must've drilled in the bottom of the fuel tank, it was a genuinely nice car to have about town.

It was also capable for what it was in a blat up to and around Scotland. My brother, who as anyone who has a Brother knows, is an inferior driver to me would struggle to get away from me in the GTS (I was in his 335i).

[TIGA84]

I'd love either.

I didn't realise until recently (and sorry if already covered elsewhere)

Manual Cayenne GTS.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Anyone had experience of one - I never knew it was an option!!

[Dollyman1850]

TIGA84 said:

I'd love either.

I didn't realise until recently (and sorry if already covered elsewhere)

Manual Cayenne GTS.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Anyone had experience of one - I never knew it was an option!!

The slush box does dull the experience ever so slightly and its fair to say that the new boxes are probably 2 full generations on from the 1st gen tiptronics…As someone who loves manuals I would say that it would make it the full package but again less so if you tow a lot?? I would certainly go for the GTS Manual but there aint many around.

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[Mr Moose]

Well, I think there is no reason for a Range Rover sport. I was in my friends Range Rover which was lovely and is like a throne on wheels. It had electric loading drop down tail thing to sit and picnic at. It had the usual lowdown torque. “ Andy, are you going to make that corner?” , “ Er, I,d better not chance it.” You could say that it’s a beautiful barge. Ach, they are all great but it’s hard to make a mistake in a Porsche. I notice hesitation is necessary in a landrover. I understand the Porsche for and against PDCC argument. It is true that you have to trust the car to go round corners and in that vein make sure you dont run tyres to the limit. There is a limit. The car will “ skip” a little ( I only ever checked it alone and not where there may be farm children on the road ). Anyway, nothing drives like a Porsche. The hoot is the madness of tons doing stuff with a relaxed wife chatting instead of screaming. Also, I live in Scotland and folk that work on the land that are mostly on tracks preferred Astra vans for work. I had a series 3 for many years. Cost of van allowed for cost of JCB and gravel repairs. I’m retiring soon so I’ll be getting the bus. F’n really. Just cars innit.

[Buster73]

Mr Moose said:

Well, I think there is no reason for a Range Rover sport. I was in my friends Range Rover which was lovely and is like a throne on wheels. It had electric loading drop down tail thing to sit and picnic at. It had the usual lowdown torque. “ Andy, are you going to make that corner?” , “ Er, I,d better not chance it.” You could say that it’s a beautiful barge. Ach, they are all great but it’s hard to make a mistake in a Porsche. I notice hesitation is necessary in a landrover. I understand the Porsche for and against PDCC argument. It is true that you have to trust the car to go round corners and in that vein make sure you dont run tyres to the limit. There is a limit. The car will “ skip” a little ( I only ever checked it alone and not where there may be farm children on the road ). Anyway, nothing drives like a Porsche. The hoot is the madness of tons doing stuff with a relaxed wife chatting instead of screaming. Also, I live in Scotland and folk that work on the land that are mostly on tracks preferred Astra vans for work. I had a series 3 for many years. Cost of van allowed for cost of JCB and gravel repairs. I’m retiring soon so I’ll be getting the bus. F’n really. Just cars innit.

Tell us the name of the whiskey you were drinking last night.