Tesla Model 3 revealed
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durbster said:
After years of advancements in ride and handling, it's depressing that the huge torque you can get from an electric motor is apparently the only criteria to judge a car by.allroad one said:
Get a few hints Tesla this is how you do it
This
+ this
= an attractive, well laid out interior of good quality and not a hideous plastic dash with a huge iPad stuck down.
Its about ergonomics.
I thought this used to be a TVR forum?
Could get a few hints with the materials here then from the pros;
Layouts based on the idea that you can waste a load of space in the middle because there is a transmission tunnel - which the Volvo presumably doesn't even have. Tesla shouldn't be doing dumb things just because that's how it used to have to be done.This
+ this
= an attractive, well laid out interior of good quality and not a hideous plastic dash with a huge iPad stuck down.
Its about ergonomics.
I thought this used to be a TVR forum?
Could get a few hints with the materials here then from the pros;
durbster said:
Tuna said:
After years of advancements in ride and handling, it's depressing that the huge torque you can get from an electric motor is apparently the only criteria to judge a car by.
Why is it the only criteria?I've ordered a tesla because I want power, economy, simplicity and refinement from my daily driver. Having huge torque if/when you want it is just its party piece.
Tuna said:
After years of advancements in ride and handling, it's depressing that the huge torque you can get from an electric motor is apparently the only criteria to judge a car by.
I've driven a Tesla and the handling is actually good due to the very low COG and (for the 4WD models) instantaneous torque vectoring from the electric motors.otolith said:
allroad one said:
Layouts based on the idea that you can waste a load of space in the middle because there is a transmission tunnel - which the Volvo presumably doesn't even have. Tesla shouldn't be doing dumb things just because that's how it used to have to be done.otolith said:
It's just what you're used to. Like wanting a big box on the back of a flat screen TV because your old CRT telly had one and you used to put things on it.
Yeah it's what you're used to but it is also useful. A big gap where the transmission tunnel would be is useless. You can't put a seat there, no one with the exception of a middle passenger in the rear seats gains any legroom and you lose somewhere to put drinks, phone, change etc.fiatpower said:
otolith said:
It's just what you're used to. Like wanting a big box on the back of a flat screen TV because your old CRT telly had one and you used to put things on it.
Yeah it's what you're used to but it is also useful. A big gap where the transmission tunnel would be is useless. You can't put a seat there, no one with the exception of a middle passenger in the rear seats gains any legroom and you lose somewhere to put drinks, phone, change etc.Not all cars have a normal center console
Honda Civic and Ridgeline spring to mind as recent vehicles.
Dad has the ridgeline and the center box is very smart and usefull space as its very deep. Wouldnt call it a full center console designed round a transmission as its a pickup so it sits low on the body.
Honda Civic and Ridgeline spring to mind as recent vehicles.
Dad has the ridgeline and the center box is very smart and usefull space as its very deep. Wouldnt call it a full center console designed round a transmission as its a pickup so it sits low on the body.
otolith said:
Layouts based on the idea that you can waste a load of space in the middle because there is a transmission tunnel - which the Volvo presumably doesn't even have. Tesla shouldn't be doing dumb things just because that's how it used to have to be done.
Transmission tunnel in a front wheel driven car? His point was that you can have an eyepleasing and functional design where spending hours on end is a pleasure rather than a chore. Both Volvo and Renault interiors are very welcoming and light years ahead of Tesla's minimalistic by necessity - to keep the cost down - interiors. Dacia does the same cost saving exercise although in different class.otolith said:
Layouts based on the idea that you can waste a load of space in the middle because there is a transmission tunnel - which the Volvo presumably doesn't even have. Tesla shouldn't be doing dumb things just because that's how it used to have to be done.
I'm not seeing Tesla pushing many boundaries when it comes to design or styling really (though I'm sure the fans see it in a different light). The Model 3 appears to be very conventional in styling given the amount of freedom they have with the underlying platform. It's true they don't need a front grille, but they've not really come up with anything better - the nose just looks unresolved to me. As for the interiors, no-one's convinced me that they're anything but the result of limited resources. Jaguar spent a fortune on design exercises around touch screen controls and came to the conclusion that physical dials and buttons are both easier to use and safer to locate when you're driving. I gather Musk has promised something more for the Model 3, but so far the pictures are positively underwhelming.
Artey said:
otolith said:
Layouts based on the idea that you can waste a load of space in the middle because there is a transmission tunnel - which the Volvo presumably doesn't even have. Tesla shouldn't be doing dumb things just because that's how it used to have to be done.
Transmission tunnel in a front wheel driven car? His point was that you can have an eyepleasing and functional design where spending hours on end is a pleasure rather than a chore. Both Volvo and Renault interiors are very welcoming and light years ahead of Tesla's minimalistic by necessity - to keep the cost down - interiors. Dacia does the same cost saving exercise although in different class.otolith said:
And it's also worth noting that traditionalists harking after the past aren't core customers for Tesla.
Just because some people don't jump on any odd st that the silicone valley comes up with to keep the hype alive and the VC money flow in doesn't make them a) traditionalists b) in any way worse than you. Not having tactical feedback sucks. You can't simply pretend that designs built and improved over decades suddenly become redundant just because someone like Musk cuts corners everywhere except battery and propulsion to stay relatively competitive. Don't believe the hype.Gassing Station | EV and Alternative Fuels | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff