Tesla Model 3 revealed
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Tuna said:
Jaguar spent a fortune on design exercises around touch screen controls and came to the conclusion that physical dials and buttons are both easier to use and safer to locate when you're driving.
Yet decided to ignore their expensively discovered conclusion by basing control of their cars around touch screen controls anyway? Or perhaps those executing the studies only had access to the touchscreens used in Jaguar XFs which is laggy as hell so probably unsafe as it makes the driver angry!Slow said:
Not all cars have a normal center console
Honda Civic and Ridgeline spring to mind as recent vehicles.
when this came out - I thought it was arse gravy...Honda Civic and Ridgeline spring to mind as recent vehicles.
But after a while... I though why would you not have the gear stick a few centimetres from the wheel.
Why move your hand 35-40cms every time you want to change gear?
Sometimes, when you see a very clever idea... it takes a little time to adjust to it.
BigBen said:
Tuna said:
Jaguar spent a fortune on design exercises around touch screen controls and came to the conclusion that physical dials and buttons are both easier to use and safer to locate when you're driving.
Yet decided to ignore their expensively discovered conclusion by basing control of their cars around touch screen controls anyway? Or perhaps those executing the studies only had access to the touchscreens used in Jaguar XFs which is laggy as hell so probably unsafe as it makes the driver angry!Tuna said:
BigBen said:
Tuna said:
Jaguar spent a fortune on design exercises around touch screen controls and came to the conclusion that physical dials and buttons are both easier to use and safer to locate when you're driving.
Yet decided to ignore their expensively discovered conclusion by basing control of their cars around touch screen controls anyway? Or perhaps those executing the studies only had access to the touchscreens used in Jaguar XFs which is laggy as hell so probably unsafe as it makes the driver angry!BigBen said:
Tuna said:
BigBen said:
Tuna said:
Jaguar spent a fortune on design exercises around touch screen controls and came to the conclusion that physical dials and buttons are both easier to use and safer to locate when you're driving.
Yet decided to ignore their expensively discovered conclusion by basing control of their cars around touch screen controls anyway? Or perhaps those executing the studies only had access to the touchscreens used in Jaguar XFs which is laggy as hell so probably unsafe as it makes the driver angry!otolith said:
Haptic touchscreens will be along soon to render the point moot.
I don't think feedback is the issue, its more trying to hit the right place on the screen when you're driving along. I don't think anyone has come up with a better control then some sort of dial or knob, steering wheel controls I think are the best solution and Tesla already has these. I'm not a big fan of the massive slab screen in the Model S, I have a feeling it'll get dated quickly and Model X users are already having a bit of trouble with reflections from the massive panoramic roof.To be fair as a first stab at a family saloon car, Tesla have done a fantastic job just didn't go to town on the interior.
Blaster72 said:
otolith said:
Haptic touchscreens will be along soon to render the point moot.
I don't think feedback is the issue, its more trying to hit the right place on the screen when you're driving along. I don't think anyone has come up with a better control then some sort of dial or knob, steering wheel controls I think are the best solution and Tesla already has these. I'm not a big fan of the massive slab screen in the Model S, I have a feeling it'll get dated quickly and Model X users are already having a bit of trouble with reflections from the massive panoramic roof.To be fair as a first stab at a family saloon car, Tesla have done a fantastic job just didn't go to town on the interior.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35232827
otolith said:
Haptic touchscreens will be along soon to render the point moot.
It won't. In fact it's already been deployed a few years back and proven to be rubbish and generally hated by drivers.It's about having a physical input which can be operated without thinking. Can you imagine a gun with touch sensitive trigger?
feef said:
The next step in tactile interfaces are the textured touchscreens which will actually have physical 'buttons' on the touchscreen and can be configured along with the display view
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35232827
That's brilliant, so we replace physical knobs and buttons with touchscreens in the name of flexibility and progress and then add physical layer imitating buttons on top of those touchscreens which limit their flexibility. So not only do we spend billions on a pointless exercise but we also end up with an interface that is worse than the original. That's what VC's in Silicone Valley call a dream come true.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35232827
Artey said:
That's brilliant, so we replace physical knobs and buttons with touchscreens in the name of flexibility and progress and then add physical layer imitating buttons on top of those touchscreens which limit their flexibility. So not only do we spend billions on a pointless exercise but we also end up with an interface that is worse than the original. That's what VC's in Silicone Valley call a dream come true.
I suspect that 'silicone valley' is something quite different than what you think it is. Artey said:
AnotherClarkey said:
I suspect that 'silicone valley' is something quite different than what you think it is.
Lol, nothing better than a constructive come back which adds substance to the discussion.AnotherClarkey said:
Only trying to address your lack of materials knowledge. Sheesh, you try and be constructive and people just get touchy.
Calm down, I can see from the typos that you got really menstrual.Good advice for the future. If you want to be a bullying smart ass who feels the need to point out an innocent mistake to make himself look big make sure that you can pull it off till the end. Stay cool and keep the momentum throughout the whole situation. Otherwise you'll end up looking like a bit of a tit who thinks he can win the war but is incapable of winning one single battle. Like you did here.
Artey said:
AnotherClarkey said:
Only trying to address your lack of materials knowledge. Sheesh, you try and be constructive and people just get touchy.
Calm down, I can see from the typos that you got really menstrual.Good advice for the future. If you want to be a bullying smart ass who feels the need to point out an innocent mistake to make himself look big make sure that you can pull it off till the end. Stay cool and keep the momentum throughout the whole situation. Otherwise you'll end up looking like a bit of a tit who thinks he can win the war but is incapable of winning one single battle. Like you did here.
AnotherClarkey said:
Artey said:
AnotherClarkey said:
Only trying to address your lack of materials knowledge. Sheesh, you try and be constructive and people just get touchy.
Calm down, I can see from the typos that you got really menstrual.Good advice for the future. If you want to be a bullying smart ass who feels the need to point out an innocent mistake to make himself look big make sure that you can pull it off till the end. Stay cool and keep the momentum throughout the whole situation. Otherwise you'll end up looking like a bit of a tit who thinks he can win the war but is incapable of winning one single battle. Like you did here.
Artey said:
feef said:
The next step in tactile interfaces are the textured touchscreens which will actually have physical 'buttons' on the touchscreen and can be configured along with the display view
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35232827
That's brilliant, so we replace physical knobs and buttons with touchscreens in the name of flexibility and progress and then add physical layer imitating buttons on top of those touchscreens which limit their flexibility. So not only do we spend billions on a pointless exercise but we also end up with an interface that is worse than the original. That's what VC's in Silicone Valley call a dream come true.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35232827
The basic problem is that modern cars have too many features to be sensibly laid out in a set of physical buttons and switches. It's fine for my Lotus, with three knobs and four buttons, but the UI of modern cars is just awful when implemented that way.
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