Obscure Performance Saloon Spin-offs e.g. Jetta 16v

Obscure Performance Saloon Spin-offs e.g. Jetta 16v

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leonintegra36

74 posts

105 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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s m said:
lord trumpton said:
Leins said:
I like that a lot, but again never saw one on the road - only GSis
Thats because they were either getting nicked or stuck at Vauxhall getting their transfer boxes replaced wink
Alfa155Q4, Cavalier Turbo, Sapphire Cosworth 4x4 and Audi 80 V6 all in one group test










Edited by s m on Thursday 7th April 20:52
5.6sec to 60 for a standard Cosworth's 4x4 just as I thought. Not as twitchy as the escort either and quicker top end.

Budleigh

128 posts

164 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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In terms of obscurity, South Africa in the 80s/90s had quite a few - divestment due to Apartheid and the ever-increasing squeeze on the market made our motor industry a do-or-die make-a-plan outfit, which liked to believe (I'm not sure with what merit) that they were producing better cars than the overseas equivalents.

One of the great myths the marketing men fed us was that the South African consumer preferred saloons to hatchbacks, so invariably (something that continues to this day) we only got 5-door hatches, and the sedans were always pitched upmarket. So you could get something like this Opel (Vauxhall something-or-other) Monza 2.0CD 16V with that lovely 16v motor (and no emissions stuff to choke it).



We also got more iterations of fast Jetta than you could shake a stick at, and fast Hondas too.

The Corolla GLI 16V was a lovely thing back in the day - luxurious and faultlessly reliable, and equipped with that lovely 4AGE motor.


Or, from Mazda, the 323 200i 16V, a model cobbled together locally because SA wasn't able to raise the cash to bring in the then-new 323/Lantis thing. Nearly 150hp and very light. Quite the rocket in its day.



scottb147

30 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Fiat 131 twin cam Volumetrico ?
LHD but supercharged!
http://classicscentral.co.uk/1983-fiat-131-abarth-...

leonintegra36

74 posts

105 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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ColonialNomad said:
Ferrari 456 coach build for Prince Jefri of Brunei.



He commissioned all sorts of oddities.
I must say this is very beautiful in comparison to a standard 456. Love the red on red leather too.

s m

23,248 posts

204 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Mazda Xedos 9 Miller



micloi

219 posts

136 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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I always wanted one of these.
JDM type R 4-door saloon.

225hp at 8,000rpm, LSD etc.


Leins

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9,479 posts

149 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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s m said:
Not a Twin Spark, nor a V6........but a 1.8 litre Turbo

I've always had a particular soft-spot for the 75. I wonder why they went with a 1.8L engine though when the Italian tax rules dictated a 2L. Was it a homologation thing?

Coatesy351

861 posts

133 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Leins said:
s m said:
Not a Twin Spark, nor a V6........but a 1.8 litre Turbo

I've always had a particular soft-spot for the 75. I wonder why they went with a 1.8L engine though when the Italian tax rules dictated a 2L. Was it a homologation thing?
1.762 cc times by the 1.7 turbo equivalency factor for the Superturismo Championship = 2.994 and into the 3 liter and under class

Edited by Coatesy351 on Wednesday 13th April 23:58

PomBstard

6,791 posts

243 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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5ohmustang said:
Dodge Omni Shelby Glhs (Goes Like Hell Some More). I did not make that up.

Fwd turbo, light, tons of torque steer, the grandfather of srt4s. Similar to the talbot sunbeam.

Talbot Horizon???

Earl of Petrol

496 posts

123 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Alfa 75 Twinspark or 3.0; Citroen BX 16 Valve; Peugeot 405 Mi16; Audi 200 Turbo; Accord Type R; BMW 3.0 Si..........

micloi

219 posts

136 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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LEXUS Altezza with the 210hp BEAMS dual vvti 2.0 petrol engine. Fast and RWD


coppice

8,629 posts

145 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Notable that nearly all candidates are 80s and 90s.So here's one from the 60s- the Ford Cortina Savage-made in limited numbers by Jeff Uren (well known tuner of the time ) and looked like a normal Mk 2 Cortina except that instead of a wheezy crossflow with 80 odd bhp he installed the 130odd bhp 3litre V6. Lovely Q car - and almost as obscure as the Corsair Savage which had the same recipe except the V6 replaced a throbby V4 normally found in Transit vans . (And - pedant alert- yes,the earliest Corsairs had a straight four).

Anybody mentioned the batst bonkers Fiat Abarths of the Sixties yet ? Fiat Cinquecento with double the (not very much)bhp, giant megaphone exhausts, semaphore wipers and propped open bootlids, Very successful on track.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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PomBstard said:
5ohmustang said:
Dodge Omni Shelby Glhs (Goes Like Hell Some More). I did not make that up.

Fwd turbo, light, tons of torque steer, the grandfather of srt4s. Similar to the talbot sunbeam.

Talbot Horizon???
Yeah, wasn't the Sunbeam rear-driven?

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Budleigh said:
In terms of obscurity, South Africa in the 80s/90s had quite a few - divestment due to Apartheid and the ever-increasing squeeze on the market made our motor industry a do-or-die make-a-plan outfit, which liked to believe (I'm not sure with what merit) that they were producing better cars than the overseas equivalents.

One of the great myths the marketing men fed us was that the South African consumer preferred saloons to hatchbacks, so invariably (something that continues to this day) we only got 5-door hatches, and the sedans were always pitched upmarket. So you could get something like this Opel (Vauxhall something-or-other) Monza 2.0CD 16V with that lovely 16v motor (and no emissions stuff to choke it).

I kind of want one of these. I'll get myself a Superboss though

only1ian

689 posts

195 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Galant VR4 super saloon seems to tick this box some offical uk imports exist:


GravelBen

15,699 posts

231 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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micloi said:
LEXUS Altezza with the 210hp BEAMS dual vvti 2.0 petrol engine. Fast and RWD

The Altezza isn't a Lexus, its a Toyota. wink

The Don of Croy

6,002 posts

160 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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coppice said:
Notable that nearly all candidates are 80s and 90s.So here's one from the 60s- the Ford Cortina Savage-made in limited numbers by Jeff Uren (well known tuner of the time ) and looked like a normal Mk 2 Cortina except that instead of a wheezy crossflow with 80 odd bhp he installed the 130odd bhp 3litre V6. Lovely Q car - and almost as obscure as the Corsair Savage which had the same recipe except the V6 replaced a throbby V4 normally found in Transit vans . (And - pedant alert- yes,the earliest Corsairs had a straight four).
I think this is an estate version - snapped at JD Classics in Maldon (apologies to thread purists but no saloon was available on the day) ;


MrTree

139 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Cheib said:
Or another gift from the 80's...the Audi 200 Turbo



They even rallied it! Hannu Mikola won the Safari Rally in one!
My local mechanic is restoring one of these at the moment.

not a spot of rust all original parts including the electric heated seats (1985!)

130k on the clock bullet proof inline 5 turbo with the full quattro system!

Here it is getting ready for a respray.












Also for all those who havnt seen the original advertisment for these i think it was pretty impressive and it was actually done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faiFfBxhT8s

Leins

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9,479 posts

149 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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From what I remember, a 200 Turbo quattro (in Avant form anyway) was even more expensive than a Quattro 20v back in the day

Foodhoover

37 posts

149 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Meridius said:
VW Passat R36



Alfa 164 Q4

two excellent barges but the alfa evil twin of the lancia thema 8:32 was just mad as it was slower than the 2.0 turbo despite the V8 Ferrari engine.