Obscure Performance Saloon Spin-offs e.g. Jetta 16v

[carinaman]

Leins said:

Great shout on the Tempra, a model I'd almost forgotten even in its most cooking of versions. And then I found this (Brazil only supposedly) - 165bhp!:

Other than the twin arm mirrors that's a handsome looking thing.

Leins said:

Supposedly there was a quick 2L twin-cam Regata before that too, but I have no recollection of it

A saloon version of something like the Ritmo 130TC?

[paulshears]

Pablo16v said:

EnglishTony said:

Sierra Sapphire Cosworth

& going the other way, Imprezza STi 5 door.

Not particularly obscure though as there were loads around.

How about obscure versions of those common performance saloons

Impreza S201 STi



Rouse Sport 302-R & 304-R

[paulshears]

s m said:

XR8's are awesome



Granada Perana (302 V8) is pretty cool aswell



South African BMW 333i

http://www.africanmusclecars.com/index.php/bmw/333...

[Dabooka]

s m said:

Good man! Didn't remember the small detail of the 5 litre engine somehow...

[anonymous-user]

Wal555 said:

The original SEAT Leon is the car that everyone remembers particularly the Cupra/Cupra R models.

Whereas the Toledo 4-door predates the Leon (launched 1999, Leon 2000) and the Toledo got the same 1.8 20vT 180bhp engine as the Leon Cupra (later FR). This was a rare machine as the Toledo wasn't a big seller even with a Diesel engine but whereas everyone would go for the smooth 2.3 V5 170bhp the performance was with the 1.8 20vT in its day - it wasn't even badged as a Cupra just a Sport IIRC.

I was wondering whether this would get a mention. I had a black 04 plate Toledo 20VT Sport about 10 years ago. Main reason for buying was they were about 2/3rds the price of a Leon Cupra, and cheaper to insure, probably because nobody knew what they were. They also had a 6 speed box whereas the similar Octavia VRS only had a 5-speed. Very conservative styling, bit of a Q car all round. Lovely car, still missed.

[edgyedgy]

MDMA . said:

Vento VR6. try finding a nice one now -



and uber rare RS2 sedan. made for a few of high flying execs at the time -

I think Cleveland police used a vento vr6 in mid nineties to chase joy-riders around north riding.

[lord trumpton]

Leins said:

I like that a lot, but again never saw one on the road - only GSis

Thats because they were either getting nicked or stuck at Vauxhall getting their transfer boxes replaced

[MDMA .]

Alfa 155 Q4 widebody. In all sense, a 16v Integrale.

[s m]

lord trumpton said:

Leins said:

I like that a lot, but again never saw one on the road - only GSis

Thats because they were either getting nicked or stuck at Vauxhall getting their transfer boxes replaced

Alfa155Q4, Cavalier Turbo, Sapphire Cosworth 4x4 and Audi 80 V6 all in one group test

Edited by s m on Thursday 7th April 20:52

[KarlMac]

Does this count?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

[daemon]

vikingaero said:

daemon said:

Prefer a Turbo'd v6 that looks like a repmobile?

Insignia 2.8i V6 Turbo 4x4 Elite, 257BHP



Advert here

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Ouch! Nice car but, £505 VED and 23.9mpg combined. That's 17-18mpg realistic. It would have to be more speshal than an Insignia to drag the notes from my wallet.

AND that price! £7.5K for a 7 year old Insignia!

[EnglishTony]

s m said:

Alfa155Q4, Cavalier Turbo, Sapphire Cosworth 4x4 and Audi 80 V6 all in one group test

Edited by s m on Thursday 7th April 20:52

As I suspected, the Cossie won. I still like the Alfa.

[MDMA .]

Audi s2 would have been a better car to put in that group test.

[Nath88n]

vikingaero said:

daemon said:

Prefer a Turbo'd v6 that looks like a repmobile?

Insignia 2.8i V6 Turbo 4x4 Elite, 257BHP



Advert here

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Ouch! Nice car but, £505 VED and 23.9mpg combined. That's 17-18mpg realistic. It would have to be more speshal than an Insignia to drag the notes from my wallet.

I have the same engine in my Saab (mapped to 285bhp), 25 mpg is easily achievable under 'swift' mixed driving.
17-18 mpg is far from realistic.

[poing]

lord trumpton said:

Leins said:

I like that a lot, but again never saw one on the road - only GSis

Thats because they were either getting nicked or stuck at Vauxhall getting their transfer boxes replaced

That made me laugh because my neighbour had one when I was a kid, he was the cool dad because he was a pro footballer, the fact he played for a bottom league team that was one up from the pub league was irrelevant to us.

It blew up the transmission (or similar, I just remember being told the gearbox broke) when he was showing off to his team mates.
Few months later at an away game the car was stolen.
Sticking to the stereotype by the looks of it, I just didn't realise that until I saw your post!

[jogger1976]

How about an ultra rare Alpina 3.0si? I believe it was the fastest four door car in the world at the time.(0-60 in 6.1 seconds and nigh on 150mph top end)

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/...

[mx5ian]

Passat VR6 saloon rare beast in the UK




Volvo 460 Turbo

[superhans88]

Always like the mk2 focus saloon... maybe because I have one

Should have done an ST..

[Leins]

carinaman said:

A saloon version of something like the Ritmo 130TC?

Seems it was "only" 110hp though. Still more powerful than any Regata I'd ever heard of though. Wonder if they did the engine in the estate? ("Weekend"?)

KarlMac said:

Does this count?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

Well the thread has sort of morphed into one on all obscure performance saloons, and that can only be a good thing IMO, so yep that definitely counts I think

jogger1976 said:

How about an ultra rare Alpina 3.0si? I believe it was the fastest four door car in the world at the time.(0-60 in 6.1 seconds and nigh on 150mph top end)

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/...

Lovely! Do like a nice Alpina

[paulshears]

mx5ian said:

Passat VR6 saloon rare beast in the UK

I used to have one of those ... 53k on the clock & paid £320 for it lol ... wish I'd kept it