RE: Camaros on sale in the UK!
Discussion
jayemm89 said:
Well 300bhp you're clearly a big fan of the Camaro
I am yes. But I actually don't like the look of the 5th or 6th Gen ones. So not really a fan of the ones under discussion. I am more trying to be impartial and rational on the pros/cons of any vehicle.jayemm89 said:
and that's absolutely fine. I had no idea what they cost but if the entry level car was $23,000 - and I am pretty sure I was in an entry level car - then you're getting great value for money I think. Unfortunately that value for money doesn't always translate. It could well be that the same car in a coupe, with a manual gearbox and a V8 I'd fall in love with. But I just didn't gel with the one that I had. It's not impossible. I love my E46 M3 but I'd probably hate an SMG convertible one. I would expect a Z28 or ZL1 probably have as much in common with what I drove as an M4 does with a 420d.
I was in an automatic convertible V6, which is certainly not going to be the most sporting of things... it was just very much a shock after the Vette as that car completely defied all of my expectations of what an American sports car would be like. And yeah the vette was a "coupe" but seeing as the roof comes off I don't distinguish other than the fact I much prefer the coupe looks.
All good I was in an automatic convertible V6, which is certainly not going to be the most sporting of things... it was just very much a shock after the Vette as that car completely defied all of my expectations of what an American sports car would be like. And yeah the vette was a "coupe" but seeing as the roof comes off I don't distinguish other than the fact I much prefer the coupe looks.
Edited by jayemm89 on Friday 15th April 15:23
swerni said:
stephen300o said:
Not really UK sized, left hand drive and tainted by that God aweful transformer franchise.
Think people will get the Mustang instead.
It's about 10cm longer and and wider than a 3 series, how can that be " not UK sized"?Think people will get the Mustang instead.
I was having a discussion on the Lotus forums recently and there are more Lotus dealers in the USA than there are Corvette/Camaro dealers in the UK (seeing as there's only one). It's a real shame given the huge clout GM has. The Corvette I think is an awesome car and would appeal to a whole lot of people if only they tried it, whilst the Mustang has clearly been a sales success so there's obviously a market for low(ish) cost big engined cars still. You have to applaud Ian Allan for flying the flag.
Atmospheric said:
300bhp/ton said:
Atmospheric said:
Eight cylinders only in a car like this.
That's a rather naive view. It's no wonder Brits get stereotyped.And I was only trying to point out that engines other than V8's have been a main stay of this class of car since the very beginning.
Inline 6's, V6's, Inline 4's are all part of the cars history, dating right back to 1967....
woody2846 said:
Good Morning,
I'm Craig, and I work for Ian Allan Motors.
We are extremely excited to get our hands on the new Camaro.
Either Kevin or Myself will be on the stand at Goodwood FOS with the new Camaro. We hope to offer test drives after Goodwood as we will be taking back some of the show vehicles.
Any questions, please don't hesitate to get in touch.
Thanks for your input Craig, really appreciate it!I'm Craig, and I work for Ian Allan Motors.
We are extremely excited to get our hands on the new Camaro.
Either Kevin or Myself will be on the stand at Goodwood FOS with the new Camaro. We hope to offer test drives after Goodwood as we will be taking back some of the show vehicles.
Any questions, please don't hesitate to get in touch.
Matt
300bhp/ton said:
Atmospheric said:
300bhp/ton said:
Atmospheric said:
Eight cylinders only in a car like this.
That's a rather naive view. It's no wonder Brits get stereotyped.And I was only trying to point out that engines other than V8's have been a main stay of this class of car since the very beginning.
Inline 6's, V6's, Inline 4's are all part of the cars history, dating right back to 1967....
300bhp/ton said:
Why must every US car article in the UK always say something along these lines.... sigh 
I was only going off what Mike Duff wrote for us in the review!"But compared to the utter dynamic incompetence that marked Camaros not that long ago it feels like a proper revelation"
300bhp/ton said:
Atmospheric said:
300bhp/ton said:
Atmospheric said:
Eight cylinders only in a car like this.
That's a rather naive view. It's no wonder Brits get stereotyped.And I was only trying to point out that engines other than V8's have been a main stay of this class of car since the very beginning.
Inline 6's, V6's, Inline 4's are all part of the cars history, dating right back to 1967....
"I" prefer eight cylinders. The other engines I am aware of. However, I like V8s and wouldn't consider a V6.
Or is this difficult?
Maybe it is. Stop making yourself look silly.
300bhp/ton said:
rtz62 said:
Am I the only one that thinks the front looks somewhat familiar? Something like...
A badly distorted picture and seeing the cars in the flesh is not really the same thing. I see no styling similarities in the vehicle you suggest.Light-hearted ness is obviously not on your radar....
Matt Bird said:
300bhp/ton said:
Why must every US car article in the UK always say something along these lines.... sigh
I was only going off what Mike Duff wrote for us in the review!"But compared to the utter dynamic incompetence that marked Camaros not that long ago it feels like a proper revelation"
Thankyou4calling said:
On the subject of American cars in RH Drive form.
Has the recently launched mustang been a success in the UK or is it too early to tell.
Has it been officially tested by the car mags against its competitors and how did it perform?
They can't find a competitor to test against......Has the recently launched mustang been a success in the UK or is it too early to tell.
Has it been officially tested by the car mags against its competitors and how did it perform?
Thankyou4calling said:
On the subject of American cars in RH Drive form.
Has the recently launched mustang been a success in the UK or is it too early to tell.
Has it been officially tested by the car mags against its competitors and how did it perform?
I recently read that annual Mustang sales in the UK will equal about 12 days US sales, so stating that UK sales are anything other than a drop in the bucket to Dearborn is stretching things.Has the recently launched mustang been a success in the UK or is it too early to tell.
Has it been officially tested by the car mags against its competitors and how did it perform?
Frankly, re-engineering Mustang for RHD was a bit of a bodged afterthought and Ford don't do that much in my experience. As already stated above, from a commercial perspective Mustang's job in the UK market is halo to other models.
Get the 8 cyl while you can though, it's becoming ever certain that after 2017 model year, Mustang GT will have V6 Ecoboost.
"I'm surprised the other manufacturers haven't caught on to what Ford are doing.."
I am a big fan of Chevy, but GM is mostly lazy. They do what they need to get by and that's about it which is why there is no RHD model. The bean counters at GM probably said, "Let's do a test release to gauge market interest." So they sent LHD production cars not really caring that the UK is pretty adamant in their dislike of LHD cars. So UK uptake will be low, the bean counters will say, "Phewww! Glad we didn't invest in a complete conversion operation." and the Camaro will be retracted from the market.
Simples.
I am a big fan of Chevy, but GM is mostly lazy. They do what they need to get by and that's about it which is why there is no RHD model. The bean counters at GM probably said, "Let's do a test release to gauge market interest." So they sent LHD production cars not really caring that the UK is pretty adamant in their dislike of LHD cars. So UK uptake will be low, the bean counters will say, "Phewww! Glad we didn't invest in a complete conversion operation." and the Camaro will be retracted from the market.
Simples.
Matt Harper said:
I recently read that annual Mustang sales in the UK will equal about 12 days US sales, so stating that UK sales are anything other than a drop in the bucket to Dearborn is stretching things.
Frankly, re-engineering Mustang for RHD was a bit of a bodged afterthought and Ford don't do that much in my experience. As already stated above, from a commercial perspective Mustang's job in the UK market is halo to other models.
Get the 8 cyl while you can though, it's becoming ever certain that after 2017 model year, Mustang GT will have V6 Ecoboost.
Bodged in what way? The only fault in the conversion I can find is not mirroring the centre console to put the handbrake/cupholders on the other side. Admittedly the the launch was a bag of sFrankly, re-engineering Mustang for RHD was a bit of a bodged afterthought and Ford don't do that much in my experience. As already stated above, from a commercial perspective Mustang's job in the UK market is halo to other models.
Get the 8 cyl while you can though, it's becoming ever certain that after 2017 model year, Mustang GT will have V6 Ecoboost.
te but that's not the fault of the car. jayemm89 said:
I was having a discussion on the Lotus forums recently and there are more Lotus dealers in the USA than there are Corvette/Camaro dealers in the UK (seeing as there's only one). It's a real shame given the huge clout GM has. The Corvette I think is an awesome car and would appeal to a whole lot of people if only they tried it, whilst the Mustang has clearly been a sales success so there's obviously a market for low(ish) cost big engined cars still. You have to applaud Ian Allan for flying the flag.
GM have tried a few times in the UK. Official Corvettes were available last year. As we're Camaro and Cadillac. Plus the mundane stuff.They also tried it with Camaro in the 90's.
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