RE: Tesla Model S: PH Carpool

RE: Tesla Model S: PH Carpool

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otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Idonthavencb said:
Model 3 alternatives? Audi A3 e-tron. Volkswagen Golf GTE.
Dull, slow, front wheel drive with a nasty little hybridised four pot, but just fondle those dashboard plastics. Mmm, listen to that thrashy little engine and bask in the glow of that premium badge. Proper petrolhead nirvana. Oh the imagine!

h0b0

7,593 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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I took a P85s out last year. I went into the test drive wanting to hate it. I came out wanting to buy that model. I'm a car person and a tech person. The Tesla brought them together. For my situation the tesla only makes sense for high mileage. It would have been perfect if it wasn't for the job I took dictating a company car with a 3.5 V6. Welcome to the US.

themanwithnoname

1,634 posts

213 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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I'm looking forward to having a drive in one.

There was a static display at a trade show I attended last weekend, and just having a play around with the P90D got both my wife and I thinking. I'll grant you neither of us drive opulent luxurious cars but the interior was very nice, the infotainment system was great and I loved the way it felt. So much so I've started taking steps to find out if it's affordable and viable.

I am seriously considering the man maths, and I've not driven one yet. But I really do need to make the maths work based on what I've seen so far.

I think the only thing I want from it which I don't believe is the case, is the hard whirring whine the WEC cars get on braking and hard acceleration, that would be the icing on the cake for me, though I also appreciate, not entirely inkeeping with the rest of the car!



The naysayers in this thread are really very annoying, we get it chaps, this car is not for you, you don't like it. Now can you please let everyone else who wishes to discuss them do so in peace.

gangzoom

6,295 posts

215 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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^^ Go and book a test drive, there always a way to get manmaths to work wink

Used 2014 85kWh RWD S are now under £50k direct from Tesla. They come with a 4 year, 50K mile warranty (same as brand new car), and the original battery warranty keeps going till 2022. Wait end of the year and sub £40K 85kWh used S will be with us....Wouldn't that make a nice X-mas present to your self wink.

98elise

26,568 posts

161 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Idonthavencb said:
bertie said:
You've never tried one have you?
No. And nor will I ever want to. If I was to spend £85,000 I would buy an A8L, Bentley Flying Spur or a slightly used S63 AMG.
Model 3 alternatives? Audi A3 e-tron. Volkswagen Golf GTE.
Model X?
A Range Rover Autobiography.
I'm willing to bet you've never driven any of them.

Still, stick to your dream of that fiesta smile

Durzel

12,264 posts

168 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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I think they're brilliant cars personally. Granted they aren't the most awe inspiring things to look at, and the interior is rather different to an equivalent £80k BMW/Audi/Merc, but they aren't poor quality in any respect. They are somewhat surreal to be in, no fixed dials or controls to speak of, you really feel like you're sitting in something from the future (imo anyway)

And performance wise they are staggering. That instant torque & acceleration will leave almost everything for dead. By a pure performance metric they are fantastic sports cars.

I really don't see why people can't look at them (and EVs in general) as the future of utilitarian driving. It doesn't mean you can't also own a lovely mechanical-feel manual gearbox wholly impractical weekend car. For me stuff like Teslas elevate - not diminish - the traditional petrol sports cars. They are clearly the future.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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otolith said:
Dull, slow, front wheel drive with a nasty little hybridised four pot, but just fondle those dashboard plastics. Mmm, listen to that thrashy little engine and bask in the glow of that premium badge. Proper petrolhead nirvana. Oh the imagine!
The GTE isn't slow. And still has better quality materials than a Tesla.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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98elise said:
I'm willing to bet you've never driven any of them.

Still, stick to your dream of that fiesta smile
I've driven the Autobiography, the S55 AMG, and the A8. All were very well put together, and did not contain a st 1-speed EV drivetrain. The sound the S55 made from its 5.5 Kompressor engine is something the Tesla would never match. Oh, and the Fiesta ST is a fantastic car.
Still, stick to wking off to Elon Fuzzy smile

themanwithnoname

1,634 posts

213 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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gangzoom said:
^^ Go and book a test drive, there always a way to get manmaths to work wink

Used 2014 85kWh RWD S are now under £50k direct from Tesla. They come with a 4 year, 50K mile warranty (same as brand new car), and the original battery warranty keeps going till 2022. Wait end of the year and sub £40K 85kWh used S will be with us....Wouldn't that make a nice X-mas present to your self wink.
Stop it!! I'm in enough trouble for dropping in that the P100D has been announced and that the summon function is in development!

98elise

26,568 posts

161 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Idonthavencb said:
98elise said:
I'm willing to bet you've never driven any of them.

Still, stick to your dream of that fiesta smile
I've driven the Autobiography, the S55 AMG, and the A8. All were very well put together, and did not contain a st 1-speed EV drivetrain. The sound the S55 made from its 5.5 Kompressor engine is something the Tesla would never match. Oh, and the Fiesta ST is a fantastic car.
Still, stick to wking off to Elon Fuzzy smile
So a Tesla won't make the same sound as an ICE!....why hasn't this been made public?

Its amazing how a car you will never drive or own can cause you so much hatred.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Err, the 04 S55 AMG didn't have the engine ICE, but even if it did , it would still sound better than a Tesla.

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Idonthavencb said:
The GTE isn't slow. And still has better quality materials than a Tesla.
It's slower than the Model 3 will be and hugely slower than the model S is. But, you know, priorities. Badge and plastics.

bp1000

873 posts

179 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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bertie said:
Idonthavencb said:
There's one thing that the Jag does that the Tesla will never match:
Noise.
Elon Musk is not a petrolhead. Cars should be produced by petrolheads. See AMG as an example.
You reckon Ratan Tata is a ptrolhead?
Never known a none petrolhead buy a Mclaren f1 like musk did.

I had an xfr with pulley upgrades, map and custom exhaust. It sounded phenomenal, it was virtual impossible to give up as a peteolhead myself.

It took about a week to move on and only occasionally do I miss the noise. In fact I actually enjoy the silence.

jkh112

22,001 posts

158 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Idonthavencb said:
Err, the 04 S55 AMG didn't have the engine ICE, but even if it did , it would still sound better than a Tesla.
I think we all get your views on Teslas. You do not seem to be adding anything useful to this thread and are making it quite boring, so why not try and contribute positively to the discussion?

p1stonhead

25,541 posts

167 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Idonthavencb said:
otolith said:
Dull, slow, front wheel drive with a nasty little hybridised four pot, but just fondle those dashboard plastics. Mmm, listen to that thrashy little engine and bask in the glow of that premium badge. Proper petrolhead nirvana. Oh the imagine!
The GTE isn't slow. And still has better quality materials than a Tesla.
Yeah but it's still a golf. You are really trying to suggest it's even 0.0000001% interesting? It's not. It's a golf. Literally the dullest dishwasher of a car you can get.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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p1stonhead said:
Idonthavencb said:
otolith said:
Dull, slow, front wheel drive with a nasty little hybridised four pot, but just fondle those dashboard plastics. Mmm, listen to that thrashy little engine and bask in the glow of that premium badge. Proper petrolhead nirvana. Oh the imagine!
The GTE isn't slow. And still has better quality materials than a Tesla.
Yeah but it's still a golf. You are really trying to suggest it's even 0.0000001% interesting? It's not. It's a golf. Literally the dullest dishwasher of a car you can get.
Dull, but Volkswagen actually has the profit. Tesla, before the Model 3, was falling down. And there's no concrete evidence that 400,000 people are going to buy the Model 3. Tesla is only supporting 115k of them.

Jonnny

29,397 posts

189 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Idonthavencb said:
98elise said:
I'm willing to bet you've never driven any of them.

Still, stick to your dream of that fiesta smile
I've driven the Autobiography, the S55 AMG, and the A8. All were very well put together, and did not contain a st 1-speed EV drivetrain. The sound the S55 made from its 5.5 Kompressor engine is something the Tesla would never match. Oh, and the Fiesta ST is a fantastic car.
Still, stick to wking off to Elon Fuzzy smile
You're the guy the "stuck in their ways" manufacturers are holding out for.

I currently work at a VW dealer, if a Tesla position/dealership opened near me, which it will.. I'd move straight away.

It's the future, they've caught all of the others out and are really gaining speed.. Go research them and take off the whole Clarkson "NOOOIIISEEE" hat, those vehicles are on a limited time span, one day before your driving days are over (I'd say from your posts and your dream car choice, a Fiesta ST.. You're probably mid twenties?) you'll be driving an EV.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Jonnny said:
Idonthavencb said:
98elise said:
I'm willing to bet you've never driven any of them.

Still, stick to your dream of that fiesta smile
I've driven the Autobiography, the S55 AMG, and the A8. All were very well put together, and did not contain a st 1-speed EV drivetrain. The sound the S55 made from its 5.5 Kompressor engine is something the Tesla would never match. Oh, and the Fiesta ST is a fantastic car.
Still, stick to wking off to Elon Fuzzy smile
You're the guy the "stuck in their ways" manufacturers are holding out for.

I currently work at a VW dealer, if a Tesla position/dealership opened near me, which it will.. I'd move straight away.

It's the future, they've caught all of the others out and are really gaining speed.. Go research them and take off the whole Clarkson "NOOOIIISEEE" hat, those vehicles are on a limited time span, one day before your driving days are over (I'd say from your posts and your dream car choice, a Fiesta ST.. You're probably mid twenties?) you'll be driving an EV.
Even if I don't like a tesla that is a sensible post.

98elise

26,568 posts

161 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Idonthavencb said:
Err, the 04 S55 AMG didn't have the engine ICE, but even if it did , it would still sound better than a Tesla.
ICE = internal combustion engine.

98elise

26,568 posts

161 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Idonthavencb said:
p1stonhead said:
Idonthavencb said:
otolith said:
Dull, slow, front wheel drive with a nasty little hybridised four pot, but just fondle those dashboard plastics. Mmm, listen to that thrashy little engine and bask in the glow of that premium badge. Proper petrolhead nirvana. Oh the imagine!
The GTE isn't slow. And still has better quality materials than a Tesla.
Yeah but it's still a golf. You are really trying to suggest it's even 0.0000001% interesting? It's not. It's a golf. Literally the dullest dishwasher of a car you can get.
Dull, but Volkswagen actually has the profit. Tesla, before the Model 3, was falling down. And there's no concrete evidence that 400,000 people are going to buy the Model 3. Tesla is only supporting 115k of them.
You seem to know as little about business as you do about Tesla. When you build large factories it costs money.

What does "only supporting 115k" of them even mean?