The new type r - is it a sales flop?
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I haven't seen one yet, which is a shame as I think it looks mad in a good way. Its to the far left of the Focus RS as the Golf is to its far right.
If I was Honda I'd offer a mechanically identical version with a toned down body kit, I suspect that would sell a lot better and you'd still have the option for its mad brother for anybody who wants it.
If I was Honda I'd offer a mechanically identical version with a toned down body kit, I suspect that would sell a lot better and you'd still have the option for its mad brother for anybody who wants it.
tankplanker said:
If I was Honda I'd offer a mechanically identical version with a toned down body kit, I suspect that would sell a lot better and you'd still have the option for its mad brother for anybody who wants it.
My thoughts exactly! Having looked at those pictures of the red one shown a page or so back, I can honestly say I wouldn't drive that. Looks like bits bolted on here and there, like someone has raided the RIpspeed bargain bin. The Golf R is subtle, too subtle in some ways but at least it looks like an adult would own it. I agree that a hot version of any car should be a little bit more out there but it's crossed the line of looking a bit special to looking a bit special in a Forest Gump kind of way!
Having seem some pictures look looks like a bad aftermarket body kit has been stuck to a civic, i don't like the standard looks so putting a wide arch kit on something i don't find appealing already is not going to make a difference to me
Below is a link to the evo car of the year, has the type r and the sub 8 leon which is what it should be compared to imo and i know which i'd have. Around 15mins in for the stuff on civic and leon, and the Leon beat out the civic overall
https://youtu.be/ZUhKhQP4PBo
The golf r i do find a bit plain and common but i have with most past ones
Below is a link to the evo car of the year, has the type r and the sub 8 leon which is what it should be compared to imo and i know which i'd have. Around 15mins in for the stuff on civic and leon, and the Leon beat out the civic overall
https://youtu.be/ZUhKhQP4PBo
The golf r i do find a bit plain and common but i have with most past ones
billy939 said:
Okay I'll bite, yes being FWD it's not great off the line but is more than a match for the rest once rolling, baring in mind the huge power difference between in and the RS3 / A45 / FRS.
Saying is it "at best equal to, some of the figures suggest slower than, my Scirocco and that's [my Scirocco] a car released over 6 years ago" is complete and utter rubbish.
Scirocco R 0-100mph = 13.7 seconds (Book figure)
FK2 Type R 0-100mph = 12.4 seconds (Book figure)
FK2 Type R 0-100mph - 11.3 seconds (Top Gear Test)
That's a world of difference. Drive one, they are far quicker than a Scirocco R.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/reviews/a5721...Saying is it "at best equal to, some of the figures suggest slower than, my Scirocco and that's [my Scirocco] a car released over 6 years ago" is complete and utter rubbish.
Scirocco R 0-100mph = 13.7 seconds (Book figure)
FK2 Type R 0-100mph = 12.4 seconds (Book figure)
FK2 Type R 0-100mph - 11.3 seconds (Top Gear Test)
That's a world of difference. Drive one, they are far quicker than a Scirocco R.
The Vambo said:
A bit Barry.
This.I have seen 1 (one). It's not even like you can mistake them for a lesser Civic because of that ridiculous wing.
I suspect the sort of person who can afford a brand new Civic also has either a Good Lady Wife or Boss at Work who would tell them not to buy something so juvenile and get a nice sensible Golf R or Audi S3 etc.
MrBarry123 said:
billy939 said:
Okay I'll bite, yes being FWD it's not great off the line but is more than a match for the rest once rolling, baring in mind the huge power difference between in and the RS3 / A45 / FRS.
Saying is it "at best equal to, some of the figures suggest slower than, my Scirocco and that's [my Scirocco] a car released over 6 years ago" is complete and utter rubbish.
Scirocco R 0-100mph = 13.7 seconds (Book figure)
FK2 Type R 0-100mph = 12.4 seconds (Book figure)
FK2 Type R 0-100mph - 11.3 seconds (Top Gear Test)
That's a world of difference. Drive one, they are far quicker than a Scirocco R.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/reviews/a5721...Saying is it "at best equal to, some of the figures suggest slower than, my Scirocco and that's [my Scirocco] a car released over 6 years ago" is complete and utter rubbish.
Scirocco R 0-100mph = 13.7 seconds (Book figure)
FK2 Type R 0-100mph = 12.4 seconds (Book figure)
FK2 Type R 0-100mph - 11.3 seconds (Top Gear Test)
That's a world of difference. Drive one, they are far quicker than a Scirocco R.
Yes, I don't doubt the Scirocco is a very quick car but the facts show it isn't as quick as the Civic.
Truckosaurus said:
This.
I have seen 1 (one). It's not even like you can mistake them for a lesser Civic because of that ridiculous wing.
I suspect the sort of person who can afford a brand new Civic also has either a Good Lady Wife or Boss at Work who would tell them not to buy something so juvenile and get a nice sensible Golf R or Audi S3 etc.
More fool them, I say.I have seen 1 (one). It's not even like you can mistake them for a lesser Civic because of that ridiculous wing.
I suspect the sort of person who can afford a brand new Civic also has either a Good Lady Wife or Boss at Work who would tell them not to buy something so juvenile and get a nice sensible Golf R or Audi S3 etc.
Axionknight said:
Truckosaurus said:
This.
I have seen 1 (one). It's not even like you can mistake them for a lesser Civic because of that ridiculous wing.
I suspect the sort of person who can afford a brand new Civic also has either a Good Lady Wife or Boss at Work who would tell them not to buy something so juvenile and get a nice sensible Golf R or Audi S3 etc.
More fool them, I say.I have seen 1 (one). It's not even like you can mistake them for a lesser Civic because of that ridiculous wing.
I suspect the sort of person who can afford a brand new Civic also has either a Good Lady Wife or Boss at Work who would tell them not to buy something so juvenile and get a nice sensible Golf R or Audi S3 etc.
neil1jnr said:
So they tested a Scirocco with DSG and launch control at a 0-100 time 0.4 sec SLOWER than Top Gear tested for the Civic...
Yes, I don't doubt the Scirocco is a very quick car but the facts show it isn't as quick as the Civic.
Yep, I do accept my initial comment was probably a bit hasty - I completely accept the Type R is quicker.Yes, I don't doubt the Scirocco is a very quick car but the facts show it isn't as quick as the Civic.
However, I still stand by my point that the Type R occupies a middle ground where it's neither the fastest, the best to drive or the easiest to live with on a daily basis which is perhaps why it's not as popular as other comparable vehicles.
I'd also like to point out, once again, that I am a BIG fan of the car; not so much though that I'll ignore its shortcomings compared with its competition.
MrBarry123 said:
neil1jnr said:
So they tested a Scirocco with DSG and launch control at a 0-100 time 0.4 sec SLOWER than Top Gear tested for the Civic...
Yes, I don't doubt the Scirocco is a very quick car but the facts show it isn't as quick as the Civic.
Yep, I do accept my initial comment was probably a bit hasty - I completely accept the Type R is quicker.Yes, I don't doubt the Scirocco is a very quick car but the facts show it isn't as quick as the Civic.
However, I still stand by my point that the Type R occupies a middle ground where it's neither the fastest, the best to drive or the easiest to live with on a daily basis which is perhaps why it's not as popular as other comparable vehicles.
I'd also like to point out, once again, that I am a BIG fan of the car; not so much though that I'll ignore its shortcomings compared with its competition.
neil1jnr said:
Truckosaurus said:
neil1jnr said:
Agree... The civic doesn't look anymore 'Barry' than say... a Juke Nismo RS...
How Rude 
chris285 said:
Having seem some pictures look looks like a bad aftermarket body kit has been stuck to a civic, i don't like the standard looks so putting a wide arch kit on something i don't find appealing already is not going to make a difference to me
Below is a link to the evo car of the year, has the type r and the sub 8 leon which is what it should be compared to imo and i know which i'd have. Around 15mins in for the stuff on civic and leon, and the Leon beat out the civic overall
https://youtu.be/ZUhKhQP4PBo
The golf r i do find a bit plain and common but i have with most past ones
Previous gen Golf R/R32 common?! Below is a link to the evo car of the year, has the type r and the sub 8 leon which is what it should be compared to imo and i know which i'd have. Around 15mins in for the stuff on civic and leon, and the Leon beat out the civic overall
https://youtu.be/ZUhKhQP4PBo
The golf r i do find a bit plain and common but i have with most past ones
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