Dials and gauges in weird places.

Dials and gauges in weird places.

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Triumph Man

8,690 posts

168 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Puddenchucker said:
Bristol Fighter (overhead console):

I like the fact that these have an "engine hours" gauge.

Also, it's nice to see gauges starting to come back, rather than being removed.

irocfan

40,429 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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DaveH23 said:
You've just reminded me of TVR with the button on the wing mirror to get in, understandably for a smooth door finish but the button to open from the inside being on the centre console.
Inspired design that removes any locking mechanism from the door to improve security and reduce the weight of the door, all helped stop the sagging hinges on the earlier TVRs. I don't know why others haven't followed suit.

Back on gauges, I remember seeing the Vauxhall SRV concept at the NEC last year and whilst the gauges on the door are a little 'odd', the gauges on the slam-panel under the rear engine cover are just bonkers!



I can't find my photos so this one is pinched off the 'net.

Limpet

6,309 posts

161 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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s m said:
smithyithy said:
The 'new' new Mini has moved the speedo dial back behind the steering wheel.

What I like about it though, as that the gauge cluster is fixed to the steering wheel, so adjusting the wheel height doesn't obstruct your view of the dials.

I had the R53 and didn't like the idea of the centre speedo so I ordered the Chrono pack to get the speedo/Rev counter there. I got the oil gauges in the centre display
I never look at the centre speedo on our R57 either. It's even worse with the Visual Boost radio as you don't have a speedo needle, just a little red "bug" that moves around the edge of the dial.



This means you can't even use your peripheral vision to note the needle position, so you actually have to take your eyes off the road and study it for half a second. It's rubbish.

We both find ourselves using the little digital speed readout in the rev counter instead.

Puddenchucker

4,087 posts

218 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Pontiac hood (Bonnet) mounted rev counter:


swisstoni

16,983 posts

279 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Impasse said:
Maserati Boomerang ftw! thumbup



I love a bit of 70s.

Dyl

1,251 posts

210 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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triggerh4ppy said:
The oddest i found in a modernish car is the Yaris.



This has got to be the cheapest speedo on the market, Just a fixed segment calculator LCD display no stepper motors or anything.
The odd thing about this as well was that the display was only visible from the driver's PoV. The display was recessed into the dash and angled upward.

66mpg

651 posts

107 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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The worst thing about the Yaris speedo is that it deliberately reads the wrong speed: according to the workshop manual at 60 mph it should read between 63 and 66 mph!

The correct speed is available at the OBD2 port though.

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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CrutyRammers said:
The noughties Primera had that rather odd dash design:
Presumably the symmetrical dash design is to make LHD/RHD cheaper.

I have a vent mounted boost gauge setup like this


I'd love a set of these, they replace the factory blanks in mk2 Golfs/early Corrados

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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aka_kerrly said:
I'd love a set of these, they replace the factory blanks in mk2 Golfs/early Corrados
Bad voltmeter design, though - no way of it letting you know there's a VR problem causing overcharging. "Oh, it says everything's fine - but what's that eggy smell, and why are my wipers doing 200mph?"

ClaphamGT3

11,300 posts

243 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Amazed this hasn't come up yet

peterattheboro

1,362 posts

183 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Limpet said:
I never look at the centre speedo on our R57 either. It's even worse with the Visual Boost radio as you don't have a speedo needle, just a little red "bug" that moves around the edge of the dial.



This means you can't even use your peripheral vision to note the needle position, so you actually have to take your eyes off the road and study it for half a second. It's rubbish.

We both find ourselves using the little digital speed readout in the rev counter instead.
Was behind one of these today and the ring around the dial changes colour! Because that isn't distracting whilst you're driving. wobble

MagnaJeep

309 posts

154 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Think outside the box



Pontiac GTO option as far as I remember, not the only one with this setup tho

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Amazed this hasn't come up yet
I would kill for a Pantera.

But sell a kidney for an OX99..







graham22

3,295 posts

205 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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2Btoo said:
graham22 said:
Mk1 Golf GTIs had gauges in the centre console too.
They had holes for gauges in the centre console but were covered by a blanking-off plate. It was an easy job to add the gauges and sensors at a later date. (I assume that the gauges were probably a cost-option when the car was new.)
Not blank on the early Mk1 GTIs, clock & oil temp or pressure:


soad

32,891 posts

176 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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IanCress said:
yonex said:
Typically bonkers Citroen..

That is utterly crazy, you'd have to stop at the side of the road to figure out how to turn the lights on.
+1

It's exquisite in all of its French-iness.

Its apparent disregard for user experience reminds me of that quote, attributed to Charles de Gaulle, that goes something like, "How can anyone govern a nation that has two hundred and forty-six different kinds of cheese?"


ZesPak

24,427 posts

196 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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66mpg said:
The worst thing about the Yaris speedo is that it deliberately reads the wrong speed: according to the workshop manual at 60 mph it should read between 63 and 66 mph!

The correct speed is available at the OBD2 port though.
A lot of manufacturers are between the 5%-10% range. Iirc the reasoning for that is that even if you mess up the ratio by fitting other tyres/wheels, the car will never tell you you're going slower than you actually are.
So IF you stay within limits on the speedo, you're really staying within the limits.

I think good ol' US of A could be responsible. Imagine this guy with 20" rims on his Yaris caught for speeding, Toyota might well face a law suit.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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I think it's also a legal requirement for speedometers to read within +10/-0% so the easiest way to be safe is to set them to over-read by around 5%. smile

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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DaveH23 said:
Not sure of the best way of wording this thread but I was looking at pictures of the ZL1 Camaro earlier.

When I come across the interior photos I couldn't help but notice what a bizzare place the oil temp, oil pressure, volts & boost gauges have been housed.





Imagine trying to check any of these whilst actually driving.

I then thought of the new mini cooper with the big ben sized speedo in the centre of the dash and it got me thinking, what other cars have dials and gauges in areas out of the norm.

Please no halfords specials with redundant dials blue tacked to the interior pillar.

Factory fitted only.

Over to you.
Look at the 60s original and current and 60s ford mustang dashes to see why!!!
I love a bit of retro !!!!