RE: Ford Mustang: UK Review
Discussion
SturdyHSV said:
It is an odd fixation 
You're right though, you've got to give the public what it wants, so really, we're all to blame!
I'll say this for both the M2 and the Mustang - I was having too much fun driving them to take much notice of the quality of the interior plastics. Or - ahem - the badge in the centre of the wheel... You're right though, you've got to give the public what it wants, so really, we're all to blame!
Indeed, I'd venture to say if you're in a car that leaves you time to fixate on such things you've got bigger problems!I realise I say this from a privileged position of having some quality wheeltime in a couple of blinding cars but both - IMO - should be celebrated for delivering on an exciting driving experience for relatively sensible money. Good times!
Dan
SturdyHSV said:
Maybe Ford have said PH aren't allowed to say? Shame really, as you can't keep this sort of thing quiet
Based on this pic, I think it's safe to say the PH Mustang was car number 99:
So it's public knowledge what times they ran:
First run:
Second run:
Third run:
Fourth run:
Those 60' times give some credence to the notion that burnouts on street tyres don't help much. That or it was some deliberate fast and furious showboating spinning the wheels all the way down the track
For reference, it's an American website, so the date format is arse backwards, 04/03 is 'April 3rd' as they say
Those are terrible performance times for a car that trades off a performance halo. For all the positive talk, I get the impression people are more interested in style than substance.Based on this pic, I think it's safe to say the PH Mustang was car number 99:
So it's public knowledge what times they ran:
First run:
Second run:
Third run:
Fourth run:
Those 60' times give some credence to the notion that burnouts on street tyres don't help much. That or it was some deliberate fast and furious showboating spinning the wheels all the way down the track
For reference, it's an American website, so the date format is arse backwards, 04/03 is 'April 3rd' as they say
What a slow-arsed slug.
Reviewers and journalists have a cheek saying certain cars don't suit `British roads`. What does suit British roads? f
king circus eco friendly clown cars and going by the state of them, 4x4s. Over congested, potholed, cameras everywhere and hundreds of hindrances means virtually nothing suits anything anymore.
We really should be grateful V8 petrol cars are still being made and offered here.
king circus eco friendly clown cars and going by the state of them, 4x4s. Over congested, potholed, cameras everywhere and hundreds of hindrances means virtually nothing suits anything anymore. We really should be grateful V8 petrol cars are still being made and offered here.
big_rob_sydney said:
Those are terrible performance times for a car that trades off a performance halo. For all the positive talk, I get the impression people are more interested in style than substance.
What a slow-arsed slug.
It's all in the launch though, and those 60' times are woeful. That isn't the car, that's the track / driver. They hadn't done it before (to the best of my knowledge) and there's also the red mist factor when racing another person.What a slow-arsed slug.
They are poor times though, definitely, and the trap isn't great, I'd have expected 105ish at least as that's less driver dependent.
SturdyHSV said:
Or is it just an excuse to cover your concern of what the neighbours will think if instead of a grey executive box you turn up in a bright yellow redneck-mobile with a f
king smile on your face?Oh god no, we have to be so business, everything is about business and company car parks and being a thrusting young executive with an Iphone. p
s off and have some actual fun instead of constantly instagramming every 17 seconds of your pointless existence desperately seeking to understand if you're doing it right based on the number of fking likes you get. Drive a Mustang, put a loud exhaust on it, do a fking rolling burnout out of your office on a Friday afternoon and have some fun before you're buried in that stty suit.
9.726/10
That's up there with Renton's "Choose Life" speech..I hear they are filming another, get it sent
SturdyHSV said:
big_rob_sydney said:
Those are terrible performance times for a car that trades off a performance halo. For all the positive talk, I get the impression people are more interested in style than substance.
What a slow-arsed slug.
It's all in the launch though, and those 60' times are woeful. That isn't the car, that's the track / driver. They hadn't done it before (to the best of my knowledge) and there's also the red mist factor when racing another person.What a slow-arsed slug.
They are poor times though, definitely, and the trap isn't great, I'd have expected 105ish at least as that's less driver dependent.
It is a combination of:
- st OEM spec tyres (the Pirellis are not highly rated at all from what I have read)
- Driver - don't use the launch control, do it properly
- Burnout - on street tyres its pointless, drive around the waterbox
- RWYB quality track - the track will be awful, as I said I have experience of RWYB quality tracks and national event tracks and the difference is incredible.
bigkeeko said:
Reviewers and journalists have a cheek saying certain cars don't suit `British roads`. What does suit British roads? fking circus eco friendly clown cars and going by the state of them, 4x4s. Over congested, potholed, cameras everywhere and hundreds of hindrances means virtually nothing suits anything anymore.
We really should be grateful V8 petrol cars are still being made and offered here.
Hear hear.king circus eco friendly clown cars and going by the state of them, 4x4s. Over congested, potholed, cameras everywhere and hundreds of hindrances means virtually nothing suits anything anymore. We really should be grateful V8 petrol cars are still being made and offered here.
Try driving a LHD C6 Z06 vette on British roads. It's about 4 inches wider than the Mustang (2030mm including the mirrors). You get used to it. The Stang in RHD? If that's a problem you need a Fiesta.
Pommygranite said:
Well your first comment was will anyone buy one as if you were suggesting they won't.
You made that inference, not me. I was in no way attempting to imply that it will sell poorly. I certainly hope it sells well, it makes a welcome change to all the monochrome German "coupes" that litter the roads. I was simply asking the question of whether it will and, by extension, what actually constitutes "selling well" in the UK for this sort of car.
Not everything on PH is a loaded question aimed at attacking someone's darling brand.
ETA: And no the rest of your post didn't answer my question, which was how many are they selling in the UK. I couldn't care less how it sells anywhere else or how it compares to any other car. I'm after the absolute number of UK sales (which I'm guessing haven't actually been published or someone would have come up with them by now).
Edited by kambites on Thursday 28th April 11:31
SturdyHSV said:
Dan Trent said:
SturdyHSV said:
Why do journalists spend so much time rubbing dashboards? When did it start?
Beats me but when we posted our review of the BMW M2 PHers in the comments thread seemed a lot more fixated about how 'boring' the interior was and how rubbish they thought the seats were than they were in the oversteer-friendly handling and big straight-six motor. So I thought I'd better cover that off in the Mustang review so we could talk about the more interesting stuff, like how it drives! Nowt so queer as folk, etc.
Cheers!
Dan
You're right though, you've got to give the public what it wants, so really, we're all to blame!
SturdyHSV said:
Or is it just an excuse to cover your concern of what the neighbours will think if instead of a grey executive box you turn up in a bright yellow redneck-mobile with a fking smile on your face?
Oh god no, we have to be so business, everything is about business and company car parks and being a thrusting young executive with an Iphone. ps off and have some actual fun instead of constantly instagramming every 17 seconds of your pointless existence desperately seeking to understand if you're doing it right based on the number of fking likes you get. Drive a Mustang, put a loud exhaust on it, do a fking rolling burnout out of your office on a Friday afternoon and have some fun before you're buried in that stty suit.
Made me smile king smile on your face?Oh god no, we have to be so business, everything is about business and company car parks and being a thrusting young executive with an Iphone. p
s off and have some actual fun instead of constantly instagramming every 17 seconds of your pointless existence desperately seeking to understand if you're doing it right based on the number of fking likes you get. Drive a Mustang, put a loud exhaust on it, do a fking rolling burnout out of your office on a Friday afternoon and have some fun before you're buried in that stty suit.( you didn't have a hand in the script for 'Trainspotting' did you? )
big_rob_sydney said:
Those are terrible performance times for a car that trades off a performance halo. For all the positive talk, I get the impression people are more interested in style than substance.
What a slow-arsed slug.
I'm sure they perform as well here as they do in the USA. Doesn't mean you'll get the same times from different locations however.What a slow-arsed slug.
I've been to Santa Pod on days were there is no grip off the line at all. Makes for depressing ET's
When I took my Camaro there, I couldn't use wide open throttle until almost 60mph. I got massive wheelspin and a sideways moment at 50mph+ which frankly scared the s
t out of me.However on the service road as you come off the strip, I could go wide open throttle from a standing start with no wheelspin at all. That sort of grip different must make for 0.5 - 1.0 sec difference easily.
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