RE: Ford Mustang: UK Review

RE: Ford Mustang: UK Review

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Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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chrisb92 said:
The MPG is terrible.
Really? A fellow owner just did a run and averaged 31mpg. Even on a bad day I used to get 24mpg from my old one.

Then again, you don't tend to buy these for their economy - but if you want, there's always the 2.3 Ecoboost as an option.


chrisb92 said:
I'd rather a well specced Audi S3/Golf R/M235i for 36/37 grand. I expect it'd be much cheaper motoring over a couple of years.
Well, some like to break from ther herd and others prefer anonymity I suppose... wink

Heartworm

1,923 posts

162 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Stig said:
Ermm.. at least one, having previously owned a 390SE, 460SE and a Griff 500 smile

Had a couple of Ultimas after that, then the previous gen Mustang. The new one is lightyears ahead of the '05-'14 models (and millenia from TVRs wink ).
Which really is good news. In trying to decide if my mustang is a replacement or an addition to the Tuscan, but I think it made me smile more on the test drive.

Think SWMBO will decide that one.

chrisb92

1,051 posts

125 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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kambites said:
I don't think many people who do 15k miles a year buy a Mustang or a 340i. That's not far off twice the national average mileage.
I do 15-20k a year in a relatively thirsty petrol hence the question! 340i apparently can do 40mpg combined. The S3/Golf R would probably be more the sort of car I'd chose at 15k a year though.




Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Heartworm said:
Which really is good news. In trying to decide if my mustang is a replacement or an addition to the Tuscan, but I think it made me smile more on the test drive.

Think SWMBO will decide that one.
Quite a few others in your position and have both smile

I have a couple of kids, hence the switch to 4 seaters. The Mustang ticks a hell of a lot of boxes when it comes to a combination of practicality and performance/driving please for me in that respect.

chrisb92

1,051 posts

125 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Stig said:
chrisb92 said:
The MPG is terrible.
Really? A fellow owner just did a run and averaged 31mpg. Even on a bad day I used to get 24mpg from my old one.

Then again, you don't tend to buy these for their economy - but if you want, there's always the 2.3 Ecoboost as an option.


chrisb92 said:
I'd rather a well specced Audi S3/Golf R/M235i for 36/37 grand. I expect it'd be much cheaper motoring over a couple of years.
Well, some like to break from ther herd and others prefer anonymity I suppose... wink
Sorry, I was just going on what the article quoted! MY post was more in reference to the article comparing it to the Audi's and BMW's saying it would get you into the base spec diesels! I was merely commenting that most people would finance these and with the terrible fuel econ surely it could be evenly priced to something such as the 340i?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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chrisb92 said:
kambites said:
I don't think many people who do 15k miles a year buy a Mustang or a 340i. That's not far off twice the national average mileage.
I do 15-20k a year in a relatively thirsty petrol hence the question! 340i apparently can do 40mpg combined. The S3/Golf R would probably be more the sort of car I'd chose at 15k a year though.
The BMW sites says 36-38mpg for the manual 340i and that's only a claim, whether it's a realistic real world figure I don't know.

That said, it is a saloon not a coupe and starting prices are £38k, so quite a bit more than the Mustang. And you are nearly 100hp down. I would think the Mustang would actually be rather a lot more lively from the drivers seat.

Matt Harper

6,622 posts

202 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Dave_ST220 said:
Matt Harper said:
What is transmitted into the cabin is intake noise - piped in via this nasty piece of garbage....

https://youtu.be/ULs0QgbqeMc
Quite a few cars have that. What's the problem?
1). Unnecessary
2). Crude
3). Ugly
4). Cheap
5). Ineffective (doesn't make much difference)
6). Detrimental to intake efficiency

sumpoil

431 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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vz-r_dave said:
GT350.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbbNlkP-ZSM

This is the car you would compare with the M4 and the AMG's here in Europe. If you havent watched already make sure you do, it looks to be a fanastic car.
Yes indeed, good Sir. I've taken every opportunity I possibly could over the last 12 months to pester Ford to get it here! type - phone - argue - punch - tank ..... fingers crossed! biggrin

kambites

67,618 posts

222 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
The BMW sites says 36-38mpg for the manual 340i and that's only a claim, whether it's a realistic real world figure I don't know.
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That's still quite a lot higher than the 20.9 Ford seem to quote for the Mustang GT. hehe

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

219 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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sumpoil said:
vz-r_dave said:
GT350.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbbNlkP-ZSM

This is the car you would compare with the M4 and the AMG's here in Europe. If you havent watched already make sure you do, it looks to be a fanastic car.
Yes indeed, good Sir. I've taken every opportunity I possibly could over the last 12 months to pester Ford to get it here! type - phone - argue - punch - tank ..... fingers crossed! biggrin
I really hope you do, good luck!

DonkeyApple

55,479 posts

170 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Stig said:
DonkeyApple said:
F4ck off. I don't drink sherry. biggrin

I wonder how many of TVR's old client base is going to be tempted by this car? Quite a few similarities between the two in many ways.
Ermm.. at least one, having previously owned a 390SE, 460SE and a Griff 500 smile

Had a couple of Ultimas after that, then the previous gen Mustang. The new one is lightyears ahead of the '05-'14 models (and millenia from TVRs wink ).

However in terms of similarity, other than the V8 there really isn't any?
Thinking along the lines of bang for buck, V8, NA, manual with easy ability to mechanically mod etc all with a hint of hooliganism. I can't immediately think of many other cars available today in the UK that tick those boxes.

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

219 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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DonkeyApple said:
Stig said:
DonkeyApple said:
F4ck off. I don't drink sherry. biggrin

I wonder how many of TVR's old client base is going to be tempted by this car? Quite a few similarities between the two in many ways.
Ermm.. at least one, having previously owned a 390SE, 460SE and a Griff 500 smile

Had a couple of Ultimas after that, then the previous gen Mustang. The new one is lightyears ahead of the '05-'14 models (and millenia from TVRs wink ).

However in terms of similarity, other than the V8 there really isn't any?
Thinking along the lines of bang for buck, V8, NA, manual with easy ability to mechanically mod etc all with a hint of hooliganism. I can't immediately think of many other cars available today in the UK that tick those boxes.
Are Jaguar the only ones left (In Europe) who make NA V8's, as far as I know BMW, Merc Audi are all FI now?

TheTyreAbuser

170 posts

99 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
We have, just not RHD ones, not unless you include the 3.3 Mustangs of the 1980's, which were rather lack lustre.
That's what I mean though, if it's not RHD it really isn't much of a true mainstream offering.

I remember the official imports of Vipers and Corvettes (no, not pony cars) but as they weren't RHD and weren't exactly as well thought of (though they should have been) meant they sold bugger all in terms of numbers.

If they can get the GT350R over here for less than an M4, we might be on to a real winner.

kambites

67,618 posts

222 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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vz-r_dave said:
Are Jaguar the only ones left (In Europe) who make NA V8's, as far as I know BMW, Merc Audi are all FI now?
Do Jaguar have a naturally aspirated V8? I thought it was naturally aspirated V6, supercharged V6 or supercharged V8 at the top end?

TheTyreAbuser

170 posts

99 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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vz-r_dave said:
Are Jaguar the only ones left (In Europe) who make NA V8's, as far as I know BMW, Merc Audi are all FI now?
I thought Jag V8s were all Supercharged now though?

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

219 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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TheTyreAbuser said:
300bhp/ton said:
We have, just not RHD ones, not unless you include the 3.3 Mustangs of the 1980's, which were rather lack lustre.
That's what I mean though, if it's not RHD it really isn't much of a true mainstream offering.

I remember the official imports of Vipers and Corvettes (no, not pony cars) but as they weren't RHD and weren't exactly as well thought of (though they should have been) meant they sold bugger all in terms of numbers.

If they can get the GT350R over here for less than an M4, we might be on to a real winner.
The GT350 is enough, the R is more of a comparison to the M4 GTS.

aeropilot

34,711 posts

228 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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chrisb92 said:
340i apparently can do 40mpg combined.
laugh

Only if you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.....

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

219 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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TheTyreAbuser said:
vz-r_dave said:
Are Jaguar the only ones left (In Europe) who make NA V8's, as far as I know BMW, Merc Audi are all FI now?
I thought Jag V8s were all Supercharged now though?
Checking their website that looks to be the case. Was thinking about the V8 XK's, I think they made them without the charger but guess I am bit behind the times smile

kambites

67,618 posts

222 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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vz-r_dave said:
Checking their website that looks to be the case. Was thinking about the V8 XK's, I think they made them without the charger but guess I am bit behind the times smile
In terms of naturally aspirated petrol V8s you can buy in the UK now, I can only think of this and the Lexus one.

TheTyreAbuser

170 posts

99 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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chrisb92 said:
The MPG is terrible. I bet most people finance these anyway, so how much per month if you do 15k a year for finance plus fuel? I'd like to see it compared to a BMW 340i for price with all that considered. I'm assuming the tax is also rather steep in the Mustang. Not to mention the cheap looking interior.

I'd rather a well specced Audi S3/Golf R/M235i for 36/37 grand. I expect it'd be much cheaper motoring over a couple of years.
Again, kinda missing the point of a Mustang.

Shopping with your head? Hot hatch. Shopping with a deep lust for a V8 coupe? Mustang.

Most people who care about brand image, residuals, tax, "build quality" and MPG really, really, really, REALLY won't get what the Mustang is for.
The sort of people who would buy a 911 rather than an F-type R.
Essentially, more beige/magnolia/titanium grey people. I'm not one of those people unless I have to be. Fortunately I don't very often.