RE: Ford Mustang: UK Review
Discussion
300bhp/ton said:
So are these American cars temping you a bit these days? Are you in a part of the US where you can make use of cars like this?
Although if I'm perfectly honest, I'm not actually as keen on this new Mustang (or the Camaro), I don't actually like how they look
Although if I'm perfectly honest, I'm not actually as keen on this new Mustang (or the Camaro), I don't actually like how they look
If the Rousch was over here (UK) for sensible money I would have one tbh, I feel a bit cheated at the prices though. I still have a bit of a thing for the old SVT and always quite liked the look of them, crap inside though! I lived and worked in the US from 2000-2004 and drove all sorts, some utter crap and some that I liked. I have ended up in the standard 3 series and toy in the garage these days, but there's no getting away from the fun that they offer. The main issue is selling something that needs to be finished, it is not what the average buyer wants IMO
yonex said:
If the Rousch was over here (UK) for sensible money I would have one tbh, I feel a bit cheated at the prices though. I still have a bit of a thing for the old SVT and always quite liked the look of them, crap inside though! I lived and worked in the US from 2000-2004 and drove all sorts, some utter crap and some that I liked. I have ended up in the standard 3 series and toy in the garage these days, but there's no getting away from the fun that they offer. The main issue is selling something that needs to be finished, it is not what the average buyer wants IMO
For me the appeal was the value for the performance. Although the low end American performance car market seems somewhat to have vanished in the UK these days. I know the 4th Gen Fbody's don't appeal to everyone. Although there are few on here who have had them. And anyone that's had one seems to love them. I bought mine in 2003 for £6500. There really wasn't anything else for the money that could offer the same performance, a V8 and rwd. Today there are more cars for this money which are closer though. But the US cars cost the same or more these days and much less choice.
J4CKO said:
cerb4.5lee said:
J4CKO said:
Amazing how a 400 plus bhp car is rated as "not that fast" nowadays ?
I suppose it depends how much weight the car carries, my Cerbera always felt fast to me yet my V8 M3 didn't yet both had 400bhp.The Mustang is relatively heavy so will hide it's feeling of being fast I would think, I would still love one to bits though and I think it's brill that you can buy a N/A/RWD/manual/V8 motor in today's obsession with Auto's/DCT and Turbo's world, it's nice that it's a little old school I reckon.
Weight hampers performance and the feel of a car in my eyes...yet the R35 GTR scuppers my theory somewhat though!
HappyMidget said:
swerni said:
Really? It's that bad?
Let's face it, the mustang is underwhelming when it comes to vocals.
M4 sounds awful on stock exhaust. Sounds like there are spanners rattling round in the exhaust. Let's face it, the mustang is underwhelming when it comes to vocals.
Edited by HappyMidget on Friday 29th April 00:10
cerb4.5lee said:
I recently test drove a M4 Convertible and I was expecting to hate the noise it made from everything I read on here and vids I've seen...but I liked it and it raised a pretty big smile...I need to hand my PH card in i think!
I had always liked them on top gear etc, until the day my mate blasted past me in his M3. I thought something was wrong with his car. His M4 made me dislike them even more! I did have my off beat V8 by that point though. And nothing compares to that now.RossP said:
Maybe, but this a Mustang article and I happened to have a video of my M4 at Santa Pod against said Mustang. Thought it might be of interest.... Never mind.
It is of interest, but you stated that you whipped its ass. Colour me surprised that people were saying its not direct competition and quoting the GT350 as a fairer comparison.ChunkyloverSV said:
chrisb92 said:
The MPG is terrible. I bet most people finance these anyway, so how much per month if you do 15k a year for finance plus fuel? I'd like to see it compared to a BMW 340i for price with all that considered. I'm assuming the tax is also rather steep in the Mustang. Not to mention the cheap looking interior.
I'd rather a well specced Audi S3/Golf R/M235i for 36/37 grand. I expect it'd be much cheaper motoring over a couple of years.
The Mustang does look cool though, I saw an all black one the other day and followed it for a bit and it did look nice (from the outside)!
Does anyone actually buy any of the cars above and worries about MPG? I would think not. I'd rather a well specced Audi S3/Golf R/M235i for 36/37 grand. I expect it'd be much cheaper motoring over a couple of years.
The Mustang does look cool though, I saw an all black one the other day and followed it for a bit and it did look nice (from the outside)!
How high do you think the day to day MPG of the Audi S3/ Golf R are. It's a lot lower than the claimed figures, unless your plan is to buy a fast car and drive everywhere doing 30mph in 6th gear.
I don't care about MPG. I do rather high mileage and average mid to late 20's. I'm just saying if you total finance + day to day running costs then I'm sure something as quick but more luxurious would be available.
Obviously I'm not the target audience for a Mustang.
Soupr said:
RossP said:
Maybe, but this a Mustang article and I happened to have a video of my M4 at Santa Pod against said Mustang. Thought it might be of interest.... Never mind.
It is of interest, but you stated that you whipped its ass. Colour me surprised that people were saying its not direct competition and quoting the GT350 as a fairer comparison.PanzerCommander said:
Bladedancer said:
But you are at a mercy of a computer that may not do what you'd like it to do.
If I put mine in third for example it stays there, it will not shift up or down, it will bang into the rev limiter until the computer yells "ENOUGH" and shuts the car off.Auto box will think before shifting even if you prod it using paddle shift or whatever.
Soupr said:
RossP said:
Maybe, but this a Mustang article and I happened to have a video of my M4 at Santa Pod against said Mustang. Thought it might be of interest.... Never mind.
It is of interest, but you stated that you whipped its ass. Colour me surprised that people were saying its not direct competition and quoting the GT350 as a fairer comparison.M4 and Mustang are both around 420hp so thought it was a reasonable comparison TBH. It's not all about the cash. The PH guys were quite keen to pitch the Mustang against the M4 to see how it fared.
Seems some of you lot are just out to argue about stuff. It used to be fun in here...
Edited by RossP on Friday 29th April 10:16
Bladedancer said:
PanzerCommander said:
Bladedancer said:
But you are at a mercy of a computer that may not do what you'd like it to do.
If I put mine in third for example it stays there, it will not shift up or down, it will bang into the rev limiter until the computer yells "ENOUGH" and shuts the car off.Auto box will think before shifting even if you prod it using paddle shift or whatever.
RossP said:
Soupr said:
RossP said:
Maybe, but this a Mustang article and I happened to have a video of my M4 at Santa Pod against said Mustang. Thought it might be of interest.... Never mind.
It is of interest, but you stated that you whipped its ass. Colour me surprised that people were saying its not direct competition and quoting the GT350 as a fairer comparison.M4 and Mustang are both around 420hp so thought it was a reasonable comparison TBH. It's not all about the cash. The PH guys were quite keen to pitch the Mustang against the M4 to see how it fared.
Seems some of you lot are just out to argue about stuff. It used to be fun in here...
Edited by RossP on Friday 29th April 10:16
Ok it can be fun, but really it's rather pointless. It's not as if every M4 review you then see it being pitched against a top end Ferrari or Zonda, which is essentially the same sort of thing.
Yeah the M4 is quicker, but honestly, no st Sherlock, it f'ing well should be for the money.
I suspect a 420i is more the price of the Mustang, and they have 184hp, so maybe we should setup a drag race for these two instead. Would be much more useful.
300bhp/ton said:
RossP said:
Soupr said:
RossP said:
Maybe, but this a Mustang article and I happened to have a video of my M4 at Santa Pod against said Mustang. Thought it might be of interest.... Never mind.
It is of interest, but you stated that you whipped its ass. Colour me surprised that people were saying its not direct competition and quoting the GT350 as a fairer comparison.M4 and Mustang are both around 420hp so thought it was a reasonable comparison TBH. It's not all about the cash. The PH guys were quite keen to pitch the Mustang against the M4 to see how it fared.
Seems some of you lot are just out to argue about stuff. It used to be fun in here...
Edited by RossP on Friday 29th April 10:16
Ok it can be fun, but really it's rather pointless. It's not as if every M4 review you then see it being pitched against a top end Ferrari or Zonda, which is essentially the same sort of thing.
Yeah the M4 is quicker, but honestly, no st Sherlock, it f'ing well should be for the money.
I suspect a 420i is more the price of the Mustang, and they have 184hp, so maybe we should setup a drag race for these two instead. Would be much more useful.
https://lexusenthusiast.com/forums/threads/car-mag...
Soupr said:
RossP said:
Maybe, but this a Mustang article and I happened to have a video of my M4 at Santa Pod against said Mustang. Thought it might be of interest.... Never mind.
It is of interest, but you stated that you whipped its ass. Colour me surprised that people were saying its not direct competition and quoting the GT350 as a fairer comparison.Pommygranite said:
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