RE: Ford Mustang: UK Review

[LuS1fer]

lord trumpton said:

Admittedly the eco would appeal to me more for those very reasons. A few tuning bolt on items and a remap would make it a pretty fast car and dare I say it more economical

I've never been a fan of huge guzzlers; I'm definitely a turbo rush fanboy having spent my twenties dicking about in Cosworths' and RS Turbos'.

My 460hp supercharged 2005 GT has consistently averaged about 24mpg. On a run up to say the Brecon Beacons, 30 is within grasp, driven fast but smoothly and I have seen 35 on a long steady motorway journey.
On a track day, it went down to 9 but so would any car.
Dare i suggest thaty a supercharger requires less throttle and effort so actually works out more economical than a standard car.

[Ozzie Osmond]

LuS1fer said:

My 460hp supercharged 2005 GT has consistently averaged about 24mpg.

Dare i suggest thaty a supercharger requires less throttle and effort so actually works out more economical than a standard car.

I think you probably know already that your car would be more economical if you weren't wasting about 50bhp turning the supercharger all the time.

[DonkeyApple]

Ozzie Osmond said:

LuS1fer said:

My 460hp supercharged 2005 GT has consistently averaged about 24mpg.

Dare i suggest thaty a supercharger requires less throttle and effort so actually works out more economical than a standard car.

I think you probably know already that your car would be more economical if you weren't wasting about 50bhp turning the supercharger all the time.

Doesn't that depend on whether it's a roots screw type charger or a centrifugal one which acts more like a turbo?

Besides, if someone buys a car that very clearly exists solely for the experience of driving and all that entails and then worries about MPG they are a bit daft. Caring about MPG is for the diesel driving accountancy brigade or those who have bought something they can't afford.

It's depressing to read posts about people talking about MPG on a product that has nothing to do with that side of the driving spectrum.

You buy this car specifically to burn petrol in exchange for fun. If that isn't what someone wants then there is an endless supply of Clive and Leslie utility transport wagons that are better suited.

[Ozzie Osmond]

DonkeyApple said:

It's depressing... D

Stick a Sport badge on that Range Rover - you'll soon feel better!

[anonymous-user]

Ozzie Osmond said:

I think you probably know already that your car would be more economical if you weren't wasting about 50bhp turning the supercharger all the time.

At 24mpg and 30mpg on a run what does it matter, seems pretty good to me?

[HappyMidget]

Ozzie Osmond said:

I think you probably know already that your car would be more economical if you weren't wasting about 50bhp turning the supercharger all the time.

When cruising they consume nothing like as much as that these days. Most roots and twin screws have bypass valves that means yes you are still spinning the rotors but under no load. I think Whipple claim only 1bhp consumption during cruising conditions.

[DonkeyApple]

Ozzie Osmond said:

DonkeyApple said:

It's depressing... D

Stick a Sport badge on that Range Rover - you'll soon feel better!

The sole purpose of the van is to drive around in an armchair making waffly V8 noises. If you try and do it without the car people just think you're mental.

I've made a point of never looking at the petrol pump when filling up any car as any driving I do is for fun and concerning yourself about mpg is the exact opposite. The one occasion I did work out mpg was born out of fascination as to how one of the cars was only managing 120 miles between fills. An MPG of 4.5 in Town transpired to be the answer.

[swisstoni]

In the old days Ford Europe had to make do with its own version of the Mustang. They called it the Capri and although they did their best it was always a pale imitation.

For oldsters like me it's almost unbelievable to see rhd Mustangs for sale at Ford dealers.

[Troubleatmill]

swisstoni said:

In the old days Ford Europe had to make do with its own version of the Mustang. They called it the Capri and although they did their best it was always a pale imitation.

For oldsters like me it's almost unbelievable to see rhd Mustangs for sale at Ford dealers.

But this was in the days when Ford tried to commit suicide.
eg. Ford Germany would launch a car, so Ford UK would launch a competing car.

[unsprung]

swisstoni said:

In the old days Ford Europe had to make do with its own version of the Mustang. They called it the Capri and although they did their best it was always a pale imitation.

For oldsters like me it's almost unbelievable to see rhd Mustangs for sale at Ford dealers.

+1

There is something about it that invokes breaking the laws of physics. Seeing that cockpit in factory-built RHD, with all the twinkly American bits, just takes a moment to get used to.

Of course, it would have been nice to have had RHD Mustangs all along. But it was not to be.

[LuS1fer]

Ozzie Osmond said:

LuS1fer said:

My 460hp supercharged 2005 GT has consistently averaged about 24mpg.

Dare i suggest thaty a supercharger requires less throttle and effort so actually works out more economical than a standard car.

I think you probably know already that your car would be more economical if you weren't wasting about 50bhp turning the supercharger all the time.

You might think although it is always compressing and blowing at the same time. the reality is that it wasn't more economical before I fitted the blower and naturally aspirated cars report worse mpg.

[croyde]

I have had mine 4 months and have only had positive comments and vibes.

Even from the cops that stopped me for dangerous driving.

[Ozzie Osmond]

Interesting stuff. Wonder whether Ford will eventually charge any of the standard range.

[300bhp/ton]

swisstoni said:

In the old days Ford Europe had to make do with its own version of the Mustang. They called it the Capri and although they did their best it was always a pale imitation.

For oldsters like me it's almost unbelievable to see rhd Mustangs for sale at Ford dealers.

Nothing a history lesson can't cure

[Chafford1]

People seem to forget that the straight 6, 3.3 Auto and 4cyl, 2.3 Turbo Fox Mustangs were offered in rhd form in the UK as was the earlier Mustang II.

Edited by Chafford1 on Monday 2nd May 17:56

[unsprung]

Interesting footnote about those few RHD Mustangs of long ago... There was no factory-built RHD for the third-generation (Fox Body) Mustang.

Any UK volume would have been tiny.

For example, during all years of Fox Body production, Ford of Australia supposedly had a total of 300 converted to RHD, locally. The conversions vary in quality and in appearance, even for identical cars imported simultaneously.

[Ozzie Osmond]

unsprung said:

Any UK volume would have been tiny.

Not unlike the comedy of RHD Cadillac sales in UK since 2000.

I sense a collective gasp of, "What? We had no idea Cadillac had been selling cars in UK?!". Which is exactly the point.

[Chafford1]

unsprung said:

Interesting footnote about those few RHD Mustangs of long ago... There was no factory-built RHD for the third-generation (Fox Body) Mustang.

Any UK volume would have been tiny.

For example, during all years of Fox Body production, Ford of Australia supposedly had a total of 300 converted to RHD, locally. The conversions vary in quality and in appearance, even for identical cars imported simultaneously.

That is interesting. Were the Mustang IIs converted in Australia or were they built as rhd by Ford?

[unsprung]

Chafford1 said:

unsprung said:

Interesting footnote about those few RHD Mustangs of long ago... There was no factory-built RHD for the third-generation (Fox Body) Mustang.

Any UK volume would have been tiny.

For example, during all years of Fox Body production, Ford of Australia supposedly had a total of 300 converted to RHD, locally. The conversions vary in quality and in appearance, even for identical cars imported simultaneously.

That is interesting. Were the Mustang IIs converted in Australia or were they built as rhd by Ford?

Good question. Perhaps one of our PH friends from Oz can help.

I doubt that RHD regular production has ever occurred in the US. My evidence for this is that Ford have made this claim in regards to the sixth-generation Mustang on sale today.

I can tell you that the Australian press are proud to note, on occasion, that Ford did no RHD conversions of any kind for Mustang... except for Ford of Australia. All other RHD conversions of Mustang -- UK, Japan, South Africa, etc., were outsourced to local works in each country. Also, in Australia, Ford of Australia did not perform the majority of Mustang RHD conversions (local works did). Just to keep the details nice and frothy.

[OzzyR1]

Love these and will definitely have one at some point, sadly am at a point where finances need to be directed elsewhere at the moment.

Glad to see so many people enjoying their purchases and the good reviews.