BMW driver stereotype well and truly dead

BMW driver stereotype well and truly dead

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SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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I have had a little look and, fair play, I have been trolled.

Credit where credit is due.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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popeyewhite said:
'Ultimate Driving Machine' . 'Nuff said. Almost designed to wind people up. Why not just change the tag to 'Mine's bigger than yours'?
Because your wife already knows that big boy wink

popeyewhite

19,898 posts

120 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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yonex said:
Because your wife already knows that big boy tiny wink
Now it works. smile

silent ninja

863 posts

100 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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I find most hatchback drivers are aggressive, tailgate, overtake and so on. VW golf, Vauxhall Corsa, Renaults are common culprits. These are younger drivers and usually crazy women with no sense of the world around them. Gold GTDs in particular, I find always trying to show off their power against bigger cars. Small man syndrome?

SUVs are also quite inconsiderate in general. I can't remember the last time when one flashed me out, gave me way or anything of the kind. They just behave like they own the road and I hate how their headlights shine directly in to my mirrors when they tailgate me.

All others are a mixture. German cars being driven aggressively - especially the 2 litre diesels - are a very common sight on my 120 mile daily commute. They think they're in a performance machine I guess? I mean, why the hell do people try to under/overtake on roundabouts and junctions? It's really not necessary and often dangerous. Stay in the right lane, if you're in the wrong one then slow down, signal and get in behind; worse case take the wrong bloody exit and U turn like everyone else rather than cause crash.

The thing I hate most on the roads? Probably pedestrians. The culture now seems to be that pedestrians walk on the road without looking and EXPECT the driver to anticipate and accommodate them. I will continue to horn and scare the st out of them. Why the hell are you in the middle of the road where there isn't a pedestrian crossing in sight? Pedestrians don't have right of way and I really hate this culture.


bigbob77

Original Poster:

593 posts

166 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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silent ninja said:
I find most hatchback drivers are aggressive, tailgate, overtake and so on. VW golf, Vauxhall Corsa, Renaults are common culprits. These are younger drivers and usually crazy women with no sense of the world around them. Gold GTDs in particular, I find always trying to show off their power against bigger cars. Small man syndrome?

SUVs are also quite inconsiderate in general. I can't remember the last time when one flashed me out, gave me way or anything of the kind. They just behave like they own the road and I hate how their headlights shine directly in to my mirrors when they tailgate me.

All others are a mixture. German cars being driven aggressively - especially the 2 litre diesels - are a very common sight on my 120 mile daily commute. They think they're in a performance machine I guess? I mean, why the hell do people try to under/overtake on roundabouts and junctions? It's really not necessary and often dangerous. Stay in the right lane, if you're in the wrong one then slow down, signal and get in behind; worse case take the wrong bloody exit and U turn like everyone else rather than cause crash.

The thing I hate most on the roads? Probably pedestrians. The culture now seems to be that pedestrians walk on the road without looking and EXPECT the driver to anticipate and accommodate them. I will continue to horn and scare the st out of them. Why the hell are you in the middle of the road where there isn't a pedestrian crossing in sight? Pedestrians don't have right of way and I really hate this culture.
But apart from hatchback drivers, SUV drivers, diesel drivers, German cars, young drivers, female drivers and pedestrians... Is everyone else OK with you?

silent ninja

863 posts

100 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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bigbob77 said:
But apart from hatchback drivers, SUV drivers, diesel drivers, German cars, young drivers, female drivers and pedestrians... Is everyone else OK with you?
Ha!
Majority of drivers are considerate but in my experience it depends where you live. Go beyond city borders and people are a heck of a lot more polite. In the city it's like a dog eat dog world.


Captainawesome

1,817 posts

163 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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I seem to find that it is Golf GTD drivers that are my nemesis these days.....they aren't bloody fast so stop trying to race me on the motorway. tts.

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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yonex said:
ChasW said:
Apart from the manufacturers of course. They know exactly the profile and personality types they appeal to. Stereotyping is a necessity for them so there must be some validity in argument.
No, that's profiling.
It's both because they need to know why people won't buy their cars, for example. Understanding how people are influenced includes stereotypical perceptions which can hugely important in purchasing behaviour.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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ChasW said:
It's both because they need to know why people won't buy their cars, for example. Understanding how people are influenced includes stereotypical perceptions which can hugely important in purchasing behaviour.
Take the A45AMG. Are you suggesting that Mercedes stereotyped the type of customers who'd buy one? IMO they've accurately profiled the buyers and successfully alienated 80% of the traditional beardy ones. One dealer told me it was 'embarrassing' and they didn't really know how to sell it smile

Who is buying Type R's, Focus RS, Megane...what do they like...Enter A45 with a big turbo, noise and spoilers.




ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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yonex said:
ChasW said:
It's both because they need to know why people won't buy their cars, for example. Understanding how people are influenced includes stereotypical perceptions which can hugely important in purchasing behaviour.
Take the A45AMG. Are you suggesting that Mercedes stereotyped the type of customers who'd buy one? IMO they've accurately profiled the buyers and successfully alienated 80% of the traditional beardy ones. One dealer told me it was 'embarrassing' and they didn't really know how to sell it smile

Who is buying Type R's, Focus RS, Megane...what do they like...Enter A45 with a big turbo, noise and spoilers.
I would imagine, for example, that Mazda would want to know that in the UK there is an often expressed opinion among many people, who theoretically ought to rate the MX5, that it's a hairdresser's car. This may not apply in other markets and it may not even worry them if they can sell every MX5 they can produce. But I am sure being aware of the image of the vehicle and the type of person some others believe typically drive them is quite important if the manufacturer would like some of those "others" as customers. Such people may well meet the profile but have irrational prejudices.

In your example, of course Mercedes have profiled the target buyer. Equally any stereotyping of those buyers by others may work in Mercedes favour; it may not, but either way they'd need to know.

heebeegeetee

28,754 posts

248 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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silent ninja said:
The thing I hate most on the roads? Probably pedestrians. The culture now seems to be that pedestrians walk on the road without looking and EXPECT the driver to anticipate and accommodate them. I will continue to horn and scare the st out of them. Why the hell are you in the middle of the road where there isn't a pedestrian crossing in sight? Pedestrians don't have right of way and I really hate this culture.
And there in a nutshell is why us motorists have to be so tightly regulated.

Fyi you're 100% wrong, pedestrians DO have a right of way, you don't because you're licenced, and I REALLY hate this culture of car drives not having a clue about the rules of the road whilst bullying other (usually more vulnerable) road users.

If there isn't a pedestrian crossing in sight then let them just cross the road anyway. How hard could it possibly be?

Wills2

22,839 posts

175 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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bigbob77 said:
The worst are larger Vauxhalls. I can't remember a single Insignia that hasn't sped up to block my manoeuvre as soon as I signal.

Edited by bigbob77 on Thursday 28th April 09:40
You'd be angry and frustrated if you had to drive one of those things too, I agree though they are generally driven by tools.


zebra

4,555 posts

214 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Monkeylegend said:
Good to see there is no negativity towards Mercedes drivers.
Nobody's is having a go at Merc drivers as they already have enough to deal with, being so Council.

silent ninja

863 posts

100 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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heebeegeetee said:
And there in a nutshell is why us motorists have to be so tightly regulated.

Fyi you're 100% wrong, pedestrians DO have a right of way, you don't because you're licenced, and I REALLY hate this culture of car drives not having a clue about the rules of the road whilst bullying other (usually more vulnerable) road users.

If there isn't a pedestrian crossing in sight then let them just cross the road anyway. How hard could it possibly be?
Motorists have to be regulated because pedestrians randomly and abruptly walk in to the road, without consideration for traffic?

I understood pedestrians have right of way only at designated crossings. Correct me if I'm wrong, with a source please?

I'm a pedestrian and I don't just walk in to the road expecting 30mph traffic to suddenly come to a halt

heebeegeetee

28,754 posts

248 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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silent ninja said:
Motorists have to be regulated because pedestrians randomly and abruptly walk in to the road, without consideration for traffic?

I understood pedestrians have right of way only at designated crossings. Correct me if I'm wrong, with a source please?

I'm a pedestrian and I don't just walk in to the road expecting 30mph traffic to suddenly come to a halt
You are mistaken about right of way. It doesn't exist. You may have priority over the pedestrian but you have no right to use the road. A pedestrian does.

Oh - source? Any copy of the highway code.

silent ninja

863 posts

100 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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heebeegeetee said:
You are mistaken about right of way. It doesn't exist. You may have priority over the pedestrian but you have no right to use the road. A pedestrian does.

Oh - source? Any copy of the highway code.
So a car has no right to use a road? I wasn't aware of that.

Common sense would say a pedestrian shouldn't walk across a roundabout, but according to your reasoning they have every right to?

heebeegeetee

28,754 posts

248 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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silent ninja said:
So a car has no right to use a road? I wasn't aware of that.

Common sense would say a pedestrian shouldn't walk across a roundabout, but according to your reasoning they have every right to?
It's nothing to do with me, but if it helps: "This section should be read by all drivers, motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders. The rules in The Highway Code do not give you the right of way in any circumstance, but they advise you when you should give way to others. Always give way if it can help to avoid an incident."

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/gener...