Shall we have a PH Top 100 - Best 4wd performance cars

Shall we have a PH Top 100 - Best 4wd performance cars

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MaxA

238 posts

144 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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There are too many to mention for a Top100, as many of the latest generations of supercars, and even superhatches are all AWD, as you need the traction for the performance. We should also add the Tesla.

My personal AWD performance favourites are the rally Subaru Imprezas and Audi quattros. And Porsche 911 Carrera 4s and Turbos.

Boshly

2,776 posts

236 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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samoht said:
A thoroughbred performance car designed from scratch around 4wd, unlike many others - the Panther Solo

(Pic from drive-my.com )
Road tests at the time talked about amazingly good handling.
Handled beautifully, went well and looked good at the time. Build quality was awful though frown

I second the Bentley Continental GT Supersports one of the most complete all rounders money can buy thumbup though there have been many great cars posted (and a few not so great smile )

Gad-Westy

14,548 posts

213 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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epom said:

Doesn't seem to have been mentioned yet.
Have a big soft spot for the GT4. Fine looking blend of pretty and aggressive rolled into one. Incidentally that picture is my all time favourite rallying photo. Sums up everything the sport was about in one simple image.

Gad-Westy

14,548 posts

213 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Jex said:
MDMA . said:
I like a bit of 4wd action so will put up my previous and current car :

Audi RS2 -
Another vote for the RS2
The Audi RS2 was one of the first, if not the first, performance estate car from a mainstream manufacturer and was astonishing for its time (I am sure there are some PHeadcases out there who will let me know what preceded it). The combination of performance and available space made it a really usable supercar. I thought they were incredible when they first came out and they are still pretty astonishing (0-100 kph in 4.8 seconds). The are becoming quite rare now though.

Love the RS2. In Nogaro, yes please.

Think the E34 M5 Touring may have pre dated it in terms of performance estates but not sure when Audi first started knocking out the 'cooking' S2 Avant.

More relevant to the thread, I like the idea of these:



Alpina B10 3.0 Allrad E34 flavour. Can't be many of those about.

rtz62

3,360 posts

155 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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My retrospective love for the below when it's illustrious offspring rose to dominance;

I give you the VW Type 183 (aka the Iltis)...


CS400

145 posts

111 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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AdamIndy said:
s m said:
xRIEx said:
CS400 said:
Aside from the Jap stuff we have got
Ford RS2000
Ahem. Too many zeroes, not enough driven wheels wink
Not strictly true ........

They did a 4wd one
Indeed. MK5/6 RS2000 4x4. Was a bit pants though.
You are correct but I did mean an RS200, sorry

cptsideways

13,544 posts

252 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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k-ink said:
leexj220 said:
cptsideways said:
These are most definately bottom of the pile. dreadful in every respect, not that fast awful in anything other than a straight line, overweight, overcomplicated.
0-60 in 5.2 seconds not that fast?? The later models were much lighter and handled better (especially the mr versions). Plus they still look epic!
All cars with AWD are overweight and over complicated.
And then there is the Mitsi, you have no idea of how complicated everthing is. I guess you have never worked on one banghead

JockySteer

1,407 posts

116 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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ZX10R NIN said:
Isn't the GT2 RS RWD? wink

I'm saying B7 RS4 Escort Cosworth C63 4Matic
Yup! Muggins here was looking at pics of Turbo's and GT2 RS and didn't concentrate on what he uploaded smile

rallycross

12,785 posts

237 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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tonyb1968 said:
SirSquidalot said:
Impreza S202, a limited run of 400 were made. A lighter faster Impreza.

This was the best colour they did the S202 in, beat the white, blue and black hands down smile and I remember there being one of these in Ashton Under Lyne back in 2002/3 when they came out (in this colour biggrin )

To add to the list...

Subaru Impreza STI Spec C & Spec C RA.

Fantastic performance car and it took you back to basics for driving, owned 2 and loved them both smile but times move on unfortunately frown
I'd also put the S202 up near the top, it was just that bit better than my Spec C, Typpe 25 and even the Evo 9 Gt.
The S202 is my favourite of the 4wd turbos' I've owned (most models of Evo, Impreza and Saphire and Escort Cosworths).
Regret selling this one:





epom

11,488 posts

161 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Still my fave though :-)

LanceRS

2,172 posts

137 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Surprised that nobody has mentioned these yet.

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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The best looking AWD car ever? Certainly a contender cool

JockySteer

1,407 posts

116 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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k-ink said:
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The best looking AWD car ever? Certainly a contender cool
Well that's immensely subjective.. as is the whole of PH I suppose laugh

Hell of a looker though.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

198 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Slippydiff said:
There seem to be plenty of images of Group B cars in this thread, I don't recall 205 T16 E2's being being "production cars/freely available to the public", nor indeed a Quattro S1/2 ....
But on the basis the OP hasn't thrown his toys out of his pram for these blatant transgressions, I propose this :







Some would contend they looked better in WRC blue with 555 plastered all over them and a Scots bloke behind the wheel, strangely I didn't ....

Available to the public ? Yes (if your pockets were deep enough)

Production car ? Prodrive had quite a production line going back in 1997/8/9, they churned out a good few (34) of them in the process (though the aforementioned Scottish bloke did his best to keep the number of intact cars, low) hehe

Road usable ? H*ll yeh, I drove it on the road on slicks with a handbrake arrangement that was distinctly illegal.

So what's the history behind that (them) then?

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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JockySteer said:
Well that's immensely subjective.. as is the whole of PH I suppose laugh

Hell of a looker though.
Indeed. Although the VAGina crowd will probably moan about the door cards.

PorkRind

3,053 posts

205 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Evo vi gsr. Went,.stopped and railed around corners like no other. There are no modern equivalents bar maybe the new focus?!

Pioneer

1,309 posts

131 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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FF, 911 Turbo S, LP560-4 or Huracan for me. Probably the 911 in all honesty although I have one of the others smile

Teggers

111 posts

200 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Dan Trent said:
I've got personal interest in this thread. And I put my money where my mouth is!
Yup. Me too. The pic is not my car but is the closest and nicest I can find. It's near as dammit what mine looks like but my photography skills are a bit lacking...

Reason? Proper full time awd, no driver aids like traction control, yaw control etc etc. It has abs and power steering. Why do you need more? And it is mentally quick with circa 350bhp and not a lot of weight. And it's before Mitsubishi went a bit mad with the styling. The vents and wing are functional. I once tried driving it enthusiastically with no wing. I put it back on very shortly afterward.




Mine on wash day with the daily:





Edited by Teggers on Friday 29th April 11:05

LanceRS

2,172 posts

137 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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JockySteer said:
k-ink said:
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The best looking AWD car ever? Certainly a contender cool
Well that's immensely subjective.. as is the whole of PH I suppose laugh

Hell of a looker though.

Good job I didn't choose this one first.

JordsNZ

6 posts

116 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Porsche 918 - one of the best looking and sounding AWD vehicles