Shall we have a PH Top 100 - Best 4wd performance cars
Discussion
Dan_1981 said:
Tommy Maks are cheaper than Evo VIIIs and considerably cheaper than Evo 8 MRs. Unless of course you specifically mean a red one, in which case they have only very recently exploded in price.Oh my vote goes for the Evo VIII, I wanted a yearned for once since seeing the Top Gear where the FQ400 gives the Murci a bloody nose
MDMA . said:
is Haldex 4wd ? or does it get through on a technicality ?
Pedant.I accept it won't be AWD all of the time however the requirements list "Must be AWD of some kind" not "Must have permanent AWD". The Haldex system can shift power so that all wheels are powering the car - the car therefore does have an AWD system of some kind.
coldel said:
Does it matter if the car was permanent 4WD to count? The R33 GT-R I am sure was adaptive and drove in RWD more often than 4WD depending on the conditions?
The R32 GT-R was the only one with no pre-loading on the 4WD system. They are all very rear wheel biased.Seeing as nobody has posted a picture of a road-going one yet, here's a picture of mine:
So many good cars already mentioned, my personal choices are:
MK1 Impreza - I remember around 2001 a builder who was doing some work on our house had one. I was 13 at the time and it was my favourite car at the time. My step dad had a word with mr builder and he took me out in it and gave it the absolute beans all they way up to 150, oh the joy!
RS4 Avant B7 - Ever since seeing the saloon featured on Top Gear I was hooked, I said to myself I will own one at some time in my life. Over the last few years I have got a thing for fast estates, so the Avant gets my vote. Its still sitting on the bucket list hopefully not for much longer!
MK1 Impreza - I remember around 2001 a builder who was doing some work on our house had one. I was 13 at the time and it was my favourite car at the time. My step dad had a word with mr builder and he took me out in it and gave it the absolute beans all they way up to 150, oh the joy!
RS4 Avant B7 - Ever since seeing the saloon featured on Top Gear I was hooked, I said to myself I will own one at some time in my life. Over the last few years I have got a thing for fast estates, so the Avant gets my vote. Its still sitting on the bucket list hopefully not for much longer!
Andy616 said:
coldel said:
Does it matter if the car was permanent 4WD to count? The R33 GT-R I am sure was adaptive and drove in RWD more often than 4WD depending on the conditions?
The R32 GT-R was the only one with no pre-loading on the 4WD system. They are all very rear wheel biased.Seeing as nobody has posted a picture of a road-going one yet, here's a picture of mine:
Caddyshack said:
Andy616 said:
coldel said:
Does it matter if the car was permanent 4WD to count? The R33 GT-R I am sure was adaptive and drove in RWD more often than 4WD depending on the conditions?
The R32 GT-R was the only one with no pre-loading on the 4WD system. They are all very rear wheel biased.Seeing as nobody has posted a picture of a road-going one yet, here's a picture of mine:
Always remember watching the Tooheys 500 at Bathurst when one of these seemed to do a bit of sandbagging before making it's way slickly, and quickly, through the field.
SirSquidalot said:
Impreza S202, a limited run of 400 were made. A lighter faster Impreza.
This was the best colour they did the S202 in, beat the white, blue and black hands down and I remember there being one of these in Ashton Under Lyne back in 2002/3 when they came out (in this colour )To add to the list...
Subaru Impreza STI Spec C & Spec C RA.
Fantastic performance car and it took you back to basics for driving, owned 2 and loved them both but times move on unfortunately
I have had a few 4WD cars over the years now most of which have been mentioned.
The Evo IV was the first and they were known for crank walk and a little bit bland looks.
Evo VII I always preferred the looks of over the VIII due to the front bumper triangle bit they introduced, both were absolutely great fun in any conditions though and the initial oomph was something else.
The GTO was an absolute hoot to drive but for a totally different reason to the Evo's, it was huge and had crap tyres that it came with, it just slid everywhere if you were on the power, great fun but not very fast
R32 Golf, it looked great and after a good while getting used to how to keep it on song it went surprisingly well, brilliant car in the wet
Audi S4 V8, returned to trader after 3 weeks, need I say more?
Current RS4, such a good car for a family which does well at doubling up as a hooning machine. You have to be going silly speeds though to get it to really come alive. The soundtrack is something else as is the brakes, by far the best on any car I have owned
To summarise, the fastest on take off was the Evo's, best handling and interior has to be the RS4, most rewarding to drive when you get it right was the Golf, best slow speed fun was the GTO.
All cars excluding the S4 I owned for at least a year usually a lot more and some were owned at the same time.
Which cars do I miss most for sheer fun? Got to be the 205's
The Evo IV was the first and they were known for crank walk and a little bit bland looks.
Evo VII I always preferred the looks of over the VIII due to the front bumper triangle bit they introduced, both were absolutely great fun in any conditions though and the initial oomph was something else.
The GTO was an absolute hoot to drive but for a totally different reason to the Evo's, it was huge and had crap tyres that it came with, it just slid everywhere if you were on the power, great fun but not very fast
R32 Golf, it looked great and after a good while getting used to how to keep it on song it went surprisingly well, brilliant car in the wet
Audi S4 V8, returned to trader after 3 weeks, need I say more?
Current RS4, such a good car for a family which does well at doubling up as a hooning machine. You have to be going silly speeds though to get it to really come alive. The soundtrack is something else as is the brakes, by far the best on any car I have owned
To summarise, the fastest on take off was the Evo's, best handling and interior has to be the RS4, most rewarding to drive when you get it right was the Golf, best slow speed fun was the GTO.
All cars excluding the S4 I owned for at least a year usually a lot more and some were owned at the same time.
Which cars do I miss most for sheer fun? Got to be the 205's
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