RE: McLaren F1: You Know You Want To

[numtumfutunch]

Who's up for a syndicate to buy it - no really......

I have no idea how it would work in practice but similar to the previous 100 million + PH Euromillions syndicates is there any energy for a one off on Tuesdays lottery with the prize pool being split equally after the F1 has been bought and a contract drawn up to time share it amongst the group and thrash the knackers of it?

I havent thought this through at all - sensible suggestions welcome

[rog007]

McLaren F1: You Know You Want To.



Err, no I don't actually, sorry.

I think I have super unleaded for blood but this I have to say does nothing for me whatsoever. Of course I appreciate what it is (and its market value), but I'd pass. Unless I had enough money to buy it just to say I had it, not that I wanted it.

[F1GTRUeno]

GetCarter said:

GM has 001. Worth a few bob I bet. Mind you he regularly drives it, so it has miles on the clock.

A certain middle eastern chap offered him a LOT for it a few years back. He didn't sell (and I'm sure never will).

GM has XP3.

My username will highlight my thoughts on the F1. It's still the ultimate for me, it's still the absolute daddy.

None of any of the supercars before or since light my fire like this does. That engine is a miracle.

[GetCarter]

F1GTRUeno said:

GM has XP3.

I know he has XP3 (there's a photo of it on his kitchen wall up here), but was under the impression he got 001 when it was released. I'll ask him. (If not him, who got it).

Not that that makes any difference to what he was offered!

Edited by GetCarter on Saturday 30th April 13:20

[rtz62]

I will gladly share details with you all of how it drives and what it is like to own an F1, on Monday.

AFTER I've won the National Lottery tonight......

[donkmeister]

williamp said:

legendary that, in detuned form they won le mans at their first attempt. And ushered in a great generation of GT racing (until the FiA...well, nevermind)

In terms of engineering and performance they moved the game on several generations. Before the F1, supercars could be bad. After, only excellence would do.

This. Couldn't have said it better myself.

I was the luckiest boy in my class when McLaren accepted my request to do work experience with them. I spent time at the old Shalford facility as a "laminater" (person who lays up carbon fibre on bucks/moulds) and a day at the old Woking finishing facility. Attention to detail was superb, every employee was enthusiastic and focused on doing the job well from the shop floor up to the engineers and the management. These cars weren't built, they were lovingly crafted by skilled men.
That is what drove the F1 to be the automotive superlative it is.

[andyps]

rtz62 said:

I will gladly share details with you all of how it drives and what it is like to own an F1, on Monday.

AFTER I've won the National Lottery tonight......

Even with the double roll over tonight you might be pressed to buy the car, hope you have enough already for a tank of fuel so you can drive it!

[Schermerhorn]

How old is this car, 20 years old?

How many days is that, 7300?

So this car has driven roughly 0.3 miles a day on average through its entire life?

[greenarrow]

How is the McLaren F1 NOT legendary?

• n/a V12 BMW engine built by Paul Rosche, making 100 BHP per litre.
• Weighed only 1138 KG, a figure no modern supercar will get close to.
• Held the production car Max Speed record for a nearly 10 years.
• Designed by legendary F1 designer Gordon Murray.
• Spawned a race version which won Le Mans. When did a road going based car last do that?
• One of the last supercars not saddled with 4WD or driver aids to get you out of trouble.
• Had the drivers seat in the middle of the car, like an F1 car
• Its 0-200 MPH time of 28 seconds dead has still only been beaten by a handful of low volume super cars, 22 years on...

If the F1 isn't legendary, just what supercar is?

[Cheib]

Yup. It's a seminal car and the fact it took 20 years for the Veyron to come along and beat its speed records says quite a lot but as the poster above says this is a road car which went and won Le Mans with relatively little modification. That probably last happened in the 50's or early 60's and won't ever happen again.

[the_lone_wolf]

69

[sparta6]

Proper analogue 90's supercar, and still quicker than the new hybrid hypercars.
Plus room for two special friends, what's not to like

[Black S2K]

david hockney said:

If I were a multi millionaire there is not a car in the world I'd want before this F1-
and judging by the prices they achieve I am not alone.

With continuous logic like that, you might well end up being one someday!

You get it, many others don't.

[MitchT]

2,800 miles? I'd soon fix that

Just the small matter of not being super rich to fix first

[Gandahar]

Evolved said:

Muzzer79 said:

I guess this shows the difference between people who aspire to be, or are already, millionaires (virtually all of PH) and billionaires who can afford to drop £14m and not even think about it.

If I was a billionaire I'd use it all the time.
Someone posted above that even if they were a billionaire they couldn't use it. Why not? I'd drive it to the tip if I wanted to with that kind of wealth behind me.

That's the difference. To be a billionaire you think like a billionaire, to dream of being one gives us mere mortals a different perspective on things. Dream cars don't exist with that kind of wealth, they're simply possessions and as such you'd treat them like buying a focus.

With regard the F1, it was the pinnacle of what was possible at the time but in standard trim never did anything for me personally, that was until I saw the GTR version...

Just look at it!

Isn't that the LM not the GTR?

[CanAm]

the_lone_wolf said:

69

An out and out racing car, some of which were converted for road use, as you well know. I would say that the last time that a slightly modified pure road car won was the Bentley in 1930.

[F1GTRUeno]

Gandahar said:

Evolved said:

Muzzer79 said:

I guess this shows the difference between people who aspire to be, or are already, millionaires (virtually all of PH) and billionaires who can afford to drop £14m and not even think about it.

If I was a billionaire I'd use it all the time.
Someone posted above that even if they were a billionaire they couldn't use it. Why not? I'd drive it to the tip if I wanted to with that kind of wealth behind me.

That's the difference. To be a billionaire you think like a billionaire, to dream of being one gives us mere mortals a different perspective on things. Dream cars don't exist with that kind of wealth, they're simply possessions and as such you'd treat them like buying a focus.

With regard the F1, it was the pinnacle of what was possible at the time but in standard trim never did anything for me personally, that was until I saw the GTR version...

Just look at it!

Isn't that the LM not the GTR?

No, it's #08R.

Sadly many owners of the GTR's have had their cars repainted to look like LM's in Papaya Orange.

[RS Grant]

patmahe said:

If I was a billionaire and this was pocket change to me, I'd probably just add it to my collection and drive it occasionally. If I was a millionaire with 10 million to spend on cars I don't think this would get a look in to be honest, maybe as an investment but I'd feel bad about using something so special in that way. I'd rather spend the money on a selection of cars I would actually be able to use and many would be pretty special in their own right.

Unfortunately I am neither a billionaire or a millionaire so all of the above is irrelevant

I have always loved these cars and agree with all of this.


Cheers,
Grant

[Evilex]

BugLebowski said:

Im sure it's been covered in the epic flemke threads, but to save me reading through all that gushing; why haven't other manufacturers or indeed McLaren reproduced the three seater layout in car since?

Fiat Multipla?
Civic FRV?

OK, just kidding!
I agree entirely.
Central driving position with staggered passenger seats makes sense even in large volume production cars. Add in some sort of headlamp dip adjustment, and there's no need to re-tool for different markets (LHD/RHD)

In a sports car of this nature, it means you can carry 100% more passengers...
Surely a no-brainer?

[LotusOmega375D]

Why is McLaren selling it? Is it on behalf of another owner, or do they just need the cash?