10 Car Hot Hatch Megatest

[Granfondo]

But they are hot and hatches!

[DoubleD]

M1C said:

Those cars aren't small are medium sized. They are all large cars.

Just give it up and move on!

Well said

[wemorgan]

Meridius said:

Will list some numbers from the test here, no relation to the winner.

Tested 0-62mph
1. Mercedes AMG A45 4Matic - 4.3s
2. Audi RS3 Sportback - 4.4s
3. Ford Focus RS - 4.9s
4. VW Golf R DSG - 5.1s
5. Subaru WRX STI - 5.4s
6. BMW M135i Auto - 5.5s
7. Honda Civic Type R - 5.9s
8. Seat Leon Cupra 290 - 6.1s
9. Renault Sport Megane 275 Cup-S - 6.3s
10. Peugeot 308 GTI BPS 270 - 6.3s

Lap Time
1. Mercedes AMG A45 4Matic - 1.23.86
2. Ford Focus RS - 1.23.96
3. Audi RS3 Sportback - 1.24.12
4. VW Golf R DSG - 1.24.73
5. Honda Civic Type R - 1.25.11
6. Subaru WRX STI - 1.25.34
7. BMW M135i Auto - 1.25.44
8. Renault Sport Megane 275 Cup-S - 1.26.81
9. Seat Leon Cupra 290 - 1.26.94
10. Peugeot 308 GTI BPS 270 - 1.27.39

No idea what conditions the lap times were set under.

and price

1. Audi RS3 Sportback - £40,795
2. Mercedes AMG A45 4Matic - £40,695
3. BMW M135i Auto - £33,500
4. VW Golf R DSG - £33,190
5. Ford Focus RS - £31,000
6. Honda Civic Type R - £30,000
7. Subaru WRX STI - £28,995
8. Seat Leon Cupra 290 - £28,680
9. Peugeot 308 GTI BPS 270 - £28,455
10. Renault Sport Megane 275 Cup-S - £23,935

[Butter Face]

Granfondo said:

But they are hot and hatches!

Yeah but the people who have them on PCP can't afford them blah blah blah etc etc.

You are k-ink are one and the same.

[k-ink]

M1C said:

Those cars aren't small or medium sized. They are all large cars.

Just give it up and move on!

Edited by M1C on Sunday 1st May 10:48

All of those are the smallest (or in Teslas case the medium size) four seater that manufacturer currently sells. Overall dimensions are now ignored apparently. So we are all good

[k-ink]

Butter Face said:

Granfondo said:

But they are hot and hatches!

Yeah but the people who have them on PCP can't afford them blah blah blah etc etc.

You are k-ink are one and the same.

I didnt make up the new rules! I am merely agreeing with you all Follow the logic own your own argument and rules. Don't shoot the messenger. We are now all on the same page.

[Granfondo]

Butter Face said:

Granfondo said:

But they are hot and hatches!

Yeah but the people who have them on PCP can't afford them blah blah blah etc etc.

You are k-ink are one and the same.

Go pick up you cheap polyester suit from the cleaners and get a battery for your Homage watch!

[WhiteAMG45]

I have watched it and the AMG will never win because of price
The facelift and tweak to the power and gearing has made it better car
I have had a mine for 1 1/4 years nearly and it is great fun to drive and it is very quick I went with no spoiler so quite stealthy

[Butter Face]

Granfondo said:

Butter Face said:

Granfondo said:

But they are hot and hatches!

Yeah but the people who have them on PCP can't afford them blah blah blah etc etc.

You are k-ink are one and the same.

Go pick up you cheap polyester suit from the cleaners and get a battery for your Homage watch!

Oh burn, good one

Does it still hurt when you see people driving nice cars that they 'can't afford'?

[Granfondo]

Butter Face said:

Oh burn, good one

Does it still hurt when you see people driving nice cars that they 'can't afford'?

Does it still hurt you couldn't hack it at Skoda?

[DoubleD]

Does it actually matter if a car is "classed" as a hot hatch or not? No it doesn't.

[kambites]

As non-PH as this might be to say, it would have been nice to see more description of the practicality comparison.

I think it'd have to be the Meganne for me; it just seems to sum up how a hot hatch should be better than the others. The Merc and Focus are enormously impressive, but not particularly desirable for me. It's good to see that Ford have done such a credible job with the RS, though; I can quite see why someone would buy it.

I'm not really a hot hatch person though, so what I think doesn't matter much to the manufacturers.

Edited by kambites on Sunday 1st May 12:16

[Granfondo]

It's a pity that the AMG and RS don't have a manual option.

[rb5er]

Wow, you really lve spreading your idiocy.

Being based on a small or mid-sized hatchback would help with the defining of a hot hatchback if you are still struggling.

[StottyEvo]

wemorgan said:

Meridius said:

Will list some numbers from the test here, no relation to the winner.

Tested 0-62mph
1. Mercedes AMG A45 4Matic - 4.3s
2. Audi RS3 Sportback - 4.4s
3. Ford Focus RS - 4.9s
4. VW Golf R DSG - 5.1s
5. Subaru WRX STI - 5.4s
6. BMW M135i Auto - 5.5s
7. Honda Civic Type R - 5.9s
8. Seat Leon Cupra 290 - 6.1s
9. Renault Sport Megane 275 Cup-S - 6.3s
10. Peugeot 308 GTI BPS 270 - 6.3s

Lap Time
1. Mercedes AMG A45 4Matic - 1.23.86
2. Ford Focus RS - 1.23.96
3. Audi RS3 Sportback - 1.24.12
4. VW Golf R DSG - 1.24.73
5. Honda Civic Type R - 1.25.11
6. Subaru WRX STI - 1.25.34
7. BMW M135i Auto - 1.25.44
8. Renault Sport Megane 275 Cup-S - 1.26.81
9. Seat Leon Cupra 290 - 1.26.94
10. Peugeot 308 GTI BPS 270 - 1.27.39

No idea what conditions the lap times were set under.

and price

1. Audi RS3 Sportback - £40,795
2. Mercedes AMG A45 4Matic - £40,695
3. BMW M135i Auto - £33,500
4. VW Golf R DSG - £33,190
5. Ford Focus RS - £31,000
6. Honda Civic Type R - £30,000
7. Subaru WRX STI - £28,995
8. Seat Leon Cupra 290 - £28,680
9. Peugeot 308 GTI BPS 270 - £28,455
10. Renault Sport Megane 275 Cup-S - £23,935

Just from the stats, the RS3 was disappointing, the AMG performed as it should and ended up at the top, the 135i was disappointing, Golf R did exactly as it should've done, Focus RS punched well above its weight (price ), Civic Type R did as expected, WRX STI punched above its weight, Leon was ok, 308 was weak as expected and the Megane did well.

[Granfondo]

rb5er said:

Wow, you really lve spreading your idiocy.

Being based on a small or mid-sized hatchback would help with the defining of a hot hatchback if you are still struggling.

Was that directed at me?

[Butter Face]

Granfondo said:

Butter Face said:

Oh burn, good one

Does it still hurt when you see people driving nice cars that they 'can't afford'?

Does it still hurt you couldn't hack it at Skoda?

Nah, it's ok, back selling the one of the best Hot Hatches on the market on PCP.

[Granfondo]

Butter Face said:

Granfondo said:

Butter Face said:

Oh burn, good one

Does it still hurt when you see people driving nice cars that they 'can't afford'?

Does it still hurt you couldn't hack it at Skoda?

Nah, it's ok, back selling the one of the best Hot Hatches on the market on PCP.

[Granfondo]

rb5er said:

Granfondo said:

Was that directed at me?

Nope, I haven't seen you say anything ridiculous yet.

How long do you have to wait for the RS?

[JoeMarano]

Marvtec said:

I'd suggest the megane was badly driven then. There's a 90bhp difference after all.

More like 72bhp difference

Megane 14.28

https://youtu.be/4kzqDE69Cas

Polo Gti

14.52

https://youtu.be/drnbwaIobQE

Edited by JoeMarano on Sunday 1st May 12:39