just saw a new focus rs in the metal

just saw a new focus rs in the metal

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k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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And the Tesla Model S laugh

80sMatchbox

3,891 posts

177 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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This thread is hilarious!! Please carry on.

We all have a friend like that... laughlaughbiglaugh



aka_kerrly

12,419 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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k-ink said:
IMHO this is what I personally classify as a genuine hot hatch:

1. Small sized three door body shell.
(If that body is also available as a five door elsewhere it does not count).

2. The most powerful engine for that small body shell is fitted.

3. Unlikely anymore, but in my heart I consider anything under 1000kg to be a gold star rated hot hatch. The 106GTI at 850kg is amazing in this respect. To bring that up to date now, I'd be very generous and set that limit to 1100kg to cover 100kg of safety crap. (Anything approaching or beyond 1200kg is a lard arse family wagon).

Again, IMHO. I'm done smile
I'm glad you are done, there are far too many errors with those criteria.

According to your own criteria the original hot hatch is not one because you could get a 5 door Golf.. The mk1 Golf GTI got the 1.6L engine, not the larger 1.8 or 2.0 that were also available at the time & would physically fit into the bay.

And a 106 GTI with all it's electric gubbins & leather seats weights far far closer to 1000kg than it ever does 850kg...

Anyhow the Focus RS, very much a hot hatch, actually more of a hyper hatch if the Golf R/AMG45 are it's natural competitors.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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Fair enough, as all rules are out and anything goes I'll concede. Just give me a minute to readjust my thoughts.

I humbly submit my all time favourite hot hatches...





That should keep you happy biggrin





Right. Do you think we should discuss this Focus then?

Granfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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aka_kerrly said:
k-ink said:
IMHO this is what I personally classify as a genuine hot hatch:

1. Small sized three door body shell.
(If that body is also available as a five door elsewhere it does not count).

2. The most powerful engine for that small body shell is fitted.

3. Unlikely anymore, but in my heart I consider anything under 1000kg to be a gold star rated hot hatch. The 106GTI at 850kg is amazing in this respect. To bring that up to date now, I'd be very generous and set that limit to 1100kg to cover 100kg of safety crap. (Anything approaching or beyond 1200kg is a lard arse family wagon).

Again, IMHO. I'm done smile
I'm glad you are done, there are far too many errors with those criteria.

According to your own criteria the original hot hatch is not one because you could get a 5 door Golf.. The mk1 Golf GTI got the 1.6L engine, not the larger 1.8 or 2.0 that were also available at the time & would physically fit into the bay.

And a 106 GTI with all it's electric gubbins & leather seats weights far far closer to 1000kg than it ever does 850kg...

Anyhow the Focus RS, very much a hot hatch, actually more of a hyper hatch if the Golf R/AMG45 are it's natural competitors.
Don't think they offered a 2.0l in the Mrk1 Golf ?


*Al*

3,830 posts

223 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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A friend of mine picked his up yesterday, he's not local to me but I'm hoping to get up to see him and the car.

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

100 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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k-ink said:
I consider anything under 1000kg to be a gold star rated hot hatch.
Golf 2 GTI
309 GTI
Escort XR3i
Astra Mk1 GTE

All under 1000kg but I suppose you are going to rule them out 'cos the basic ranges included 5 door versions.

Which also rules out the 106

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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Yep I think my door rule may be an error hehe

That just means the Panamera is official.

aka_kerrly

12,419 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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Granfondo said:
Don't think they offered a 2.0l in the Mrk1 Golf ?
The original mk1 Golf GTI was created when some engineers at VW decided it would be interesting to put a 1.6 Audi 8v engine into a Golf as part of a late night project...

Audi larger capacity lumps available which the engineers could potentially have got the hands on, if anyone has tried a 2.0l mk1 Golf they know it's AMAZING!

Oh, K-link, cracking effort with the Porscheslaugh



k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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So.....

This Focus RS. Thoughts?

I didn't mind the looks of the mk1. Actually it was good looking.

The mk2 was a bucket of chav sick.

This one looks ok. Maybe even good - if you never look at the rear lights. I can't slate it for being FWD anymore. So in a subtle colour, not bad.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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aka_kerrly said:
Granfondo said:
Don't think they offered a 2.0l in the Mrk1 Golf ?
The original mk1 Golf GTI was created when some engineers at VW decided it would be interesting to put a 1.6 Audi 8v engine into a Golf as part of a late night project...

Audi larger capacity lumps available which the engineers could potentially have got the hands on, if anyone has tried a 2.0l mk1 Golf they know it's AMAZING!

Oh, K-link, cracking effort with the Porscheslaugh
Thought so!

RumbleOfThunder

3,560 posts

204 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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Ace vid from Autotrader, had no idea they did Youtube content like this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhnyQHRoeao

"Hot hatch" gets thrown about again, oddly. laugh

David87

6,665 posts

213 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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Well, I ordered one this afternoon. Was never intending to, but I just thought sod it. Sure it'll be a hoot. biggrin

ChrisRS6

736 posts

184 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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Granfondo said:
Hot Hatch should only have 3 doors but....... PCP/lease has allowed people who should be up to their necks in nappies and mortgage repayments into cars they can't afford to own!

Tongue in cheek but may have some truth in it. wink
Wondered how long before finance was mentioned.

Most will be on finance etc etc etc....yawn..so what!!!

Il await the following next.....

It's not RWD?
All VAG products are bland?
How much for a fast ford?
Driven my cocks?

Blah Blah Blah!

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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That was a good review! Money no object I'd take the Merc. Value for money it is clearly a win for Renault. The Ford is in between for me. Not that I've driven any of them. Based 100% on that video review. A used Renault would appear to be a bargain, in that company.

daemon

35,854 posts

198 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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David87 said:
Well, I ordered one this afternoon. Was never intending to, but I just thought sod it. Sure it'll be a hoot. biggrin
Whats the lead time on yours?

daemon

35,854 posts

198 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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k-ink said:
So in conclusion I am apparently wrong. Therefore it seems the Porsche Panamera is indeed a hot hatch after all. It is the smallest and lightest four seater car they make: designed to haul a family around, yet has a sporting edge. Apparently the number of doors, weight, dimensions and price never come into it anymore. I am glad we cleared that all up.


Moving on...

laugh
Yes, thats it, because a Panamera is in fact, a Ford Focus rival rolleyes

Sad you cant just admit you're wrong.



Edited by daemon on Saturday 30th April 18:35

daemon

35,854 posts

198 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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80sMatchbox said:
This thread is hilarious!! Please carry on.

We all have a friend like that... laughlaughbiglaugh
Yes, indeed. Oh well...

Impasse

15,099 posts

242 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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Speshul. You're all speshul.

Markbarry1977

4,080 posts

104 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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Christ nearly 5 pages devoted to the definition of a hot hatch. Who cares? I don't.

Anyway back to the focus RS, whilst looking around it I noticed there is no vertical adjustment for seat height. I had a sit in a focus ST as well. I actually preferred the seats in that to the optional extra recaros that were in the rs.

Each to there own.

Like I posted earlier, give it a few years and let the prices of used ones come down and I might be tempted but not an 18 month wait an no discount at all.

On another note. Does anyone think the prices of the mk2 will drop now the latest model is out.