Greatest GT car
Discussion
RobDown said:
there's a reason why people post interior pics of the 612 not exterior, one of the ugliest Ferraris made for decades 
I'll take a Rapide S thanks
OK - each to their own but I couldn't let that just sit there. And with the weather today it's a good excuse to fire her up. The perfect GT, IMHO.I'll take a Rapide S thanks
gizlaroc said:
Gorbyrev said:
Lots of wonderful GT cars here. The Gran Tourismo is fantastic but my cousin gets 14mpg from his so you would need a 30 gallon tank to make the range. Was very impressed with the Jag XJ-R that Harry Metcalfe has just done a review on over at Harry's Garage. Getting near 35mpg on a long run from a supercharged 550hp monster is remarkable. Great interior, lovely chassis, superlative body control and fantastic engine. Add a year or two's initial depreciation and you have a continent munching drivers car for posh A6 diesel money.
When you consider most are only getting 38/39 on a run from the diesel it does make you wonder why we are so obsessed with diesel. Wasn't his long term average in it showing as 29mpg as well, which is also stunning.
Well, for me it really has to be a Ferrari V12. Modern enough to be fast and comfortable.
Classics are great (as you an guess from my ID) but it's a different type of driving, slower basically, and hotter.
So an elegant Maranello, a 550 or 575M would be ideal.
More controversially I believe it has to be Left Hand Drive.
The UK is not for grand touring, England at least is too small.
A GT car needs to be comfortable and hence quite wide. So LHD is a real advantage on the narrow roads of say, the Italian lakes. Overtaking is necessary too, one doesn't want to be stuck behind the freight on a route nationale depending on the significant other to shout "go !".
Finally I like the sheer decadence of having a car solely for the yearly tour.
Grand !
Classics are great (as you an guess from my ID) but it's a different type of driving, slower basically, and hotter.
So an elegant Maranello, a 550 or 575M would be ideal.
More controversially I believe it has to be Left Hand Drive.
The UK is not for grand touring, England at least is too small.
A GT car needs to be comfortable and hence quite wide. So LHD is a real advantage on the narrow roads of say, the Italian lakes. Overtaking is necessary too, one doesn't want to be stuck behind the freight on a route nationale depending on the significant other to shout "go !".
Finally I like the sheer decadence of having a car solely for the yearly tour.
Grand !
I do not know if it has already been mentioned, but a Lotus Evora S or 400 fits the bill perfectly. Very comfortable, plenty of space, good sound, strong performance, amazing handling, decent running costs...need I go on? I know there are better GT`s that are more luxurious or a bit faster on an Autobahn, and the likes of Ferrari or Maserati make a better sound, but I can guarantee the Lotus will outdrive them from a dynamic experience point of view (never mind pure dynamics), but still be a very comfortable place to be.
E65Ross said:
My old man has the coupe version, I must say it is a very, very good GT car.
Absolutely! The M6 GC isn't a sports car, it's way too heavy. But it's a brilliant mile muncher and fits all the OPs requirements especially if you add the competition pack.It has to be quick - 0-60 in sub 5 seconds Check, about 4.0sec.
It has to fast - 160mph + Check, stock it's limited to about 160, easily derestricted to 200mph +
It has to be comfortable and spacious for 2 people, with enough luggage space for a week Check, space for 4 if needed or you can fold the rear seats if there's only 2 of you.
It has to have a good range! 400 miles as a minimum. You won't always be needing that long range, but it's incredibly frustrating to fill up ever 200 miles. Check, you can easily get 400 miles out of the 80L tank, if you're on a long run 500 is not out of the question even if motoring on. This is possible
extrapolate to a full tank and you'll get nearly 530 miles between fills at 80mph.
It needs to sound good through a tunnel Check, quite quiet inside with the windows up so not tireing on a very long drive, but open the windows in a tunnel and it's pretty good, esp with the CP exhaust or more so if you go M Performance or Akra.
It needs to have good looks - nothing too edgy or racy, but equally not too bland Check, well, I like it anyway!
Black_S3 said:
I get around 600 mile, 800 seems very optimistic to me. Gorbyrev said:
Lots of wonderful GT cars here. The Gran Tourismo is fantastic but my cousin gets 14mpg from his so you would need a 30 gallon tank to make the range.
He must be doing all his driving in town, I had the MC Shift version which has shorter gearing than the full auto and could easily get 24mpg on a run. I was a great car, I loved the MC box and was well impressed with how quiet, stable and comfortable it was at an indicated 170mph on the Autobahn.They are not cheap to run but running costs are not too bad for what is essentially a Ferrari, 12k mile/2 year service intervals help a lot.
RichardM5 said:
E65Ross said:
My old man has the coupe version, I must say it is a very, very good GT car.
Absolutely! The M6 GC isn't a sports car, it's way too heavy. But it's a brilliant mile muncher and fits all the OPs requirements especially if you add the competition pack.It has to be quick - 0-60 in sub 5 seconds Check, about 4.0sec.
It has to fast - 160mph + Check, stock it's limited to about 160, easily derestricted to 200mph +
It has to be comfortable and spacious for 2 people, with enough luggage space for a week Check, space for 4 if needed or you can fold the rear seats if there's only 2 of you.
It has to have a good range! 400 miles as a minimum. You won't always be needing that long range, but it's incredibly frustrating to fill up ever 200 miles. Check, you can easily get 400 miles out of the 80L tank, if you're on a long run 500 is not out of the question even if motoring on. This is possible
extrapolate to a full tank and you'll get nearly 530 miles between fills at 80mph.
It needs to sound good through a tunnel Check, quite quiet inside with the windows up so not tireing on a very long drive, but open the windows in a tunnel and it's pretty good, esp with the CP exhaust or more so if you go M Performance or Akra.
It needs to have good looks - nothing too edgy or racy, but equally not too bland Check, well, I like it anyway!
Byker28i said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I always found the Cerbera comfortable on long runs but if it's hot you boil to death and if it's raining and cold you can't see where you are going because the wipers/heater blowers are both pants...so not ideal.
Have a 640d and it's a cracking cruiser but the engine ruins most of the pleasure of driving it though, my vote would be a nice 850 CSi or a 928 GTS.
Biggest thing against it would be fuel economy.
Fuel economy wise I thought it was pretty good and it's relative light weight helped with that a fair bit and I ran a x5 4.8 alongside it for a while and that made the Cerbera seem extremely good on fuel in comparison for sure.
OK, not a V8 but has all the poke and noise
Took mine down to Monaco, Lake Como, through Switzerland, up to Paris and home in 10 days. All with my then 11 year old. Camped, F1'd (grim!) and generally had a blast in an Esprit that had already done 110,000 miles.
So, no, not really unreliable if they are maintained properly.
Took mine down to Monaco, Lake Como, through Switzerland, up to Paris and home in 10 days. All with my then 11 year old. Camped, F1'd (grim!) and generally had a blast in an Esprit that had already done 110,000 miles.
So, no, not really unreliable if they are maintained properly.
C7 JFW said:
phumy said:
Ticks all your boxes i think
Sub 5 second 0-60
Over 160 mph
400 miles on a tank full
enough space for a weeks luggage
The V8 sounds great
Hugely appealing but don't these cars have an awful reputation for being unreliable?Sub 5 second 0-60
Over 160 mph
400 miles on a tank full
enough space for a weeks luggage
The V8 sounds great
To me it is the Ferrari 599. Epic V12 and they look stunning even today. If they had a 7 speed dual clutch gearbox like the 458 onwards, they would be utterly perfect. However, I think they are quite colour sensitive so this is what I would go for
Failing that, I pick the F13 M6 coupe.
To my it looks better than the Gran Coupe (just my opinion) and still has space for 4 adults, lots of luggage and can get perhaps squeeze 500 out of a tank (80 litre tank) on a long cruise at 70/80mph.
Failing that, I pick the F13 M6 coupe.
To my it looks better than the Gran Coupe (just my opinion) and still has space for 4 adults, lots of luggage and can get perhaps squeeze 500 out of a tank (80 litre tank) on a long cruise at 70/80mph.
It can do 400 odd miles on a tank though, and it only cost you around £40.250GTE said:
Well, for me it really has to be a Ferrari V12. Modern enough to be fast and comfortable.
Classics are great (as you an guess from my ID) but it's a different type of driving, slower basically, and hotter.
So an elegant Maranello, a 550 or 575M would be ideal.
More controversially I believe it has to be Left Hand Drive
The UK is not for grand touring, England at least is too small.
A GT car needs to be comfortable and hence quite wide. So LHD is a real advantage on the narrow roads of say, the Italian lakes. Overtaking is necessary too, one doesn't want to be stuck behind the freight on a route nationale depending on the significant other to shout "go !".
Finally I like the sheer decadence of having a car solely for the yearly tour.
Grand !
Nothing controversial at all. This is exactly what I had on my mind. In the case of the Tipo engined '12, most definelty.Classics are great (as you an guess from my ID) but it's a different type of driving, slower basically, and hotter.
So an elegant Maranello, a 550 or 575M would be ideal.
More controversially I believe it has to be Left Hand Drive
The UK is not for grand touring, England at least is too small.
A GT car needs to be comfortable and hence quite wide. So LHD is a real advantage on the narrow roads of say, the Italian lakes. Overtaking is necessary too, one doesn't want to be stuck behind the freight on a route nationale depending on the significant other to shout "go !".
Finally I like the sheer decadence of having a car solely for the yearly tour.
Grand !
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