"Diesel VED could rise by £800"

"Diesel VED could rise by £800"

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Butter Face

30,308 posts

160 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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heebeegeetee said:
It's all going up, isn't it? Next year my £30pa petrol car goes to £140. The increase for my diesel is much less, I believe.
Neither of your current cars will go up next year.

nickfrog

21,160 posts

217 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
But are you sufficiently open minded to challenge the claims made by the merchants of doom?
Are you open minded enough to not try and ridicule people just because you don't agree with them?

The irony is strong on that one.

Blown2CV

28,817 posts

203 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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I've owned a lot of diesels, some fast (relatively), and I do think they've had their day. They're definitely not the future with all the new petrol and hybrid/EV tech coming out. Complicated, dirty, marmite driving characteristics etc. to boot. The fast ones aren't even that economical. Fact is the manufacturers just can't make them clean enough to pass perpetually tightening euro standards, as evidenced by the emissions scandal. They've got a stigma of being crap, on top of all that! Went back to petrol for my most recent car and I'll be staying away from diesel in future.

heebeegeetee

28,743 posts

248 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Butter Face said:
Neither of your current cars will go up next year.
Is it only new cars?

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Yes, only new cars sold from April 17.

Current cars stay as they are now, my filthy diesel stays at £0. Happy days.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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nickfrog said:
mybrainhurts said:
But are you sufficiently open minded to challenge the claims made by the merchants of doom?
Are you open minded enough to not try and ridicule people just because you don't agree with them?

The irony is strong on that one.
Ah, yes, why didn't I recognise my malady...?

Note to self ----> from this day forth, ridicule only those with whom I agree.

Hell, thanks, my life is now complete. Praise be...

swisstoni

16,997 posts

279 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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k-ink said:
This just proves you can't rely on people to make a change based upon having a social conscience. People in general want to carry on as they wish. It is always someone or something else's fault. The answer must lie in someone else doing something to fix the problem. The only thing people on the whole take seriously is their money. So if the world is to be cleaned up you must force people's behaviour via taxes.
Yes, and people were encouraged into diesel by taxation based on CO2 and lower duty on diesel than petrol.
Nobody in their right mind would choose a diesel car over a petrol version for the fun of it.

Now CO2 is fine apparently and 'we' are all concerned about NOX.
I wonder what the next taxable horror generated by eminently taxable motorists is around the corner?

BIRMA

3,808 posts

194 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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I'm glad it only applies to new cars, my whole reason behind buying my 2004 5 litre V10 twin turbo diesel Phaeton or Phat One as I have labelled it was because of £280 VED.

Blown2CV

28,817 posts

203 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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BIRMA said:
I'm glad it only applies to new cars, my whole reason behind buying my 2004 5 litre V10 twin turbo diesel Phaeton or Phat One as I have labelled it was because of £280 VED.
was that the only reason, or was it because the car was amazingly cheap to buy like all phaetons? I am sure the VED contributed, once you'd looked into it, but I can't imagine that was all there was to it.

BIRMA

3,808 posts

194 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Blown2CV said:
BIRMA said:
I'm glad it only applies to new cars, my whole reason behind buying my 2004 5 litre V10 twin turbo diesel Phaeton or Phat One as I have labelled it was because of £280 VED.
was that the only reason, or was it because the car was amazingly cheap to buy like all phaetons? I am sure the VED contributed, once you'd looked into it, but I can't imagine that was all there was to it.
No, I as transfixed by the way the wood vent covers retracted back, the ventilated massage seats that can be adjusted to your exact requirements, the way it just wafts along in virtual silence so you can listen to the amazing standard hifi system.
The list goes on but for £10K and cheap road tax to me it was a no brainer.
As long as you take on board it's a barge and can make a 400 mile round trip seem nothing at all.
At this moment in time I'll run it for four years and not be bothered if I have to throw it away but I'll then just bite the bullet and buy a 2010 W12 Phaeton if I can find one.

Blown2CV

28,817 posts

203 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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well that's what i meant really, it's a lot of car for the money. No-one buys a barge to save money though. Anyway.

BIRMA

3,808 posts

194 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Blown2CV said:
well that's what i meant really, it's a lot of car for the money. No-one buys a barge to save money though. Anyway.
Indeed.

nickfrog

21,160 posts

217 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
nickfrog said:
mybrainhurts said:
But are you sufficiently open minded to challenge the claims made by the merchants of doom?
Are you open minded enough to not try and ridicule people just because you don't agree with them?

The irony is strong on that one.
Ah, yes, why didn't I recognise my malady...?

Note to self ----> from this day forth, ridicule only those with whom I agree.

Hell, thanks, my life is now complete. Praise be...
Sorry to also hear about your binary thinking. Not really going well for you.

irocfan

40,452 posts

190 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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CaptainSlow said:
xjay1337 said:
The GOVERNMENT decided to tax cars based on their CO2 emissions.
not NOX. not particulate. CO2.
The EU forced the Government to introduce this, tell me again how environmentally friendly the EU is.
well isn't that a whole other argument about whether or not the EU can force us to adopt rules/laws etc

irocfan

40,452 posts

190 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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I will also say that while I really don't like this




the fact is that we live in a democracy so people have a choice

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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EnglishTony said:
Vote Loony
An old school friend is the treasurer of the MRLP. Well, his elder brother, but were all went to the same school.

Better than voting Green!