"Diesel VED could rise by £800"
Discussion
I've owned a lot of diesels, some fast (relatively), and I do think they've had their day. They're definitely not the future with all the new petrol and hybrid/EV tech coming out. Complicated, dirty, marmite driving characteristics etc. to boot. The fast ones aren't even that economical. Fact is the manufacturers just can't make them clean enough to pass perpetually tightening euro standards, as evidenced by the emissions scandal. They've got a stigma of being crap, on top of all that! Went back to petrol for my most recent car and I'll be staying away from diesel in future.
nickfrog said:
mybrainhurts said:
But are you sufficiently open minded to challenge the claims made by the merchants of doom?
Are you open minded enough to not try and ridicule people just because you don't agree with them?The irony is strong on that one.
Note to self ----> from this day forth, ridicule only those with whom I agree.
Hell, thanks, my life is now complete. Praise be...
k-ink said:
This just proves you can't rely on people to make a change based upon having a social conscience. People in general want to carry on as they wish. It is always someone or something else's fault. The answer must lie in someone else doing something to fix the problem. The only thing people on the whole take seriously is their money. So if the world is to be cleaned up you must force people's behaviour via taxes.
Yes, and people were encouraged into diesel by taxation based on CO2 and lower duty on diesel than petrol.Nobody in their right mind would choose a diesel car over a petrol version for the fun of it.
Now CO2 is fine apparently and 'we' are all concerned about NOX.
I wonder what the next taxable horror generated by eminently taxable motorists is around the corner?
BIRMA said:
I'm glad it only applies to new cars, my whole reason behind buying my 2004 5 litre V10 twin turbo diesel Phaeton or Phat One as I have labelled it was because of £280 VED.
was that the only reason, or was it because the car was amazingly cheap to buy like all phaetons? I am sure the VED contributed, once you'd looked into it, but I can't imagine that was all there was to it.Blown2CV said:
BIRMA said:
I'm glad it only applies to new cars, my whole reason behind buying my 2004 5 litre V10 twin turbo diesel Phaeton or Phat One as I have labelled it was because of £280 VED.
was that the only reason, or was it because the car was amazingly cheap to buy like all phaetons? I am sure the VED contributed, once you'd looked into it, but I can't imagine that was all there was to it.The list goes on but for £10K and cheap road tax to me it was a no brainer.
As long as you take on board it's a barge and can make a 400 mile round trip seem nothing at all.
At this moment in time I'll run it for four years and not be bothered if I have to throw it away but I'll then just bite the bullet and buy a 2010 W12 Phaeton if I can find one.
mybrainhurts said:
nickfrog said:
mybrainhurts said:
But are you sufficiently open minded to challenge the claims made by the merchants of doom?
Are you open minded enough to not try and ridicule people just because you don't agree with them?The irony is strong on that one.
Note to self ----> from this day forth, ridicule only those with whom I agree.
Hell, thanks, my life is now complete. Praise be...
CaptainSlow said:
xjay1337 said:
The GOVERNMENT decided to tax cars based on their CO2 emissions.
not NOX. not particulate. CO2.
The EU forced the Government to introduce this, tell me again how environmentally friendly the EU is.not NOX. not particulate. CO2.
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