RE: Audi SQ7: Review
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big_rob_sydney said:
You're missing the point. I , at least, know and acknowledge that the LS is a barge. And I suffer for it every day when parking. This SUV is even bigger. So what are you trying to say then? The laws of physics do not apply?
Typical ill informed tripe to shoot the messenger and not look at the message itself.
As you were.
If that was the message in your original post then you hid it extremely well - by making absolutely no allusion to it at all.Typical ill informed tripe to shoot the messenger and not look at the message itself.
As you were.
I would hope that no-one would buy an SQ7 under the illusion that it is a sports car. They probably do so because they want a large car with a bit more "go" than average, and they can afford to indulge their desires. Very few people need the car they drive, nearly everyone buys a car they want. Otherwise we'd all be driving the cheapest vehicular "appliance" that we could.
However your point was that this car, in particular, was an "abomination" (based on its size) and you questioned its utilitarian value and the "irony" of owning one. However, driving something that is very nearly just as big, and yet has much less utility value (7 seats? 3.5 ton towing capability?), is delicious irony and hypocrisy at its very best.
big_rob_sydney said:
300bhp/ton said:
Have you ever actually driven on any British roads?
Seriously? Do we now need to dig up some typically narrow lanes to balance the discussion? I guess you've never heard the expression "narrow country lanes" then...It is good to know that you worry about if we can cope.
j90gta said:
No matter what engine is fitted, or how well-built its supposed to be, it's still vulgar. When was the last time anyone actually saw one of these being used off-road or even towing something? An estate car will do almost everything that most owners of these will ever need.
Well, a few weeks ago I drove to a ski chalet and the 4WD came in handy on that occasion. And last week I towed my racing car to be prepped for the season. Do they count? Maybe I could have done the same with an estate car - say a Merc E Class. Which is every bit as long and wide as a Q7.PhilboSE said:
Let us know how your campaign to ban vans and lorries from the UK road network is getting on. Will no-one think of the Jaguar XJ8 drivers in their diminutive vehicles?
I have on occasion left my Jaguar at home and taken another car when holidaying in parts of the UK where it just wouldn't fit and I did the same with my A8 too. Yes, they were both daft and ostentatious cars which were often awkward to park. The A8 was too big for many car parks. The Jaguar was a pain because I often struggled to park it on the street near work when we moved offices to a place without a private car park. I usually had a longer walk than anyone else from the car to to office just so I could find a reasonable parking space that wouldn't leave me block in come home time. Edited by PhilboSE on Thursday 5th May 12:16
Cars aren't getting any smaller either. The Jag and the A8 were big cars in their day. I'm sure the Insignia is a out as long these days.
big_rob_sydney said:
Every time I see abominations like this, I just laugh. I mean, why stop there? Why not go out and buy a tank? Good luck parking this in any normal sized parking station without either banging doors, or coming back to find your own doors having been dinged by someone else futilely trying to get out next to you.
Putting aside all discussions of selfishness of road space taken, you realise that the UK is not exactly like the US in terms of width of roads, and narrow country lanes will not suit these kinds of cars, especially if another one is coming in the opposite direction.
Its a bit ironic, because for all intents and purposes, practicality is supposed to be what these lifestyle vehicles are about. When they get so bloated, I wonder just how practical they really are.
What is a parking station?Putting aside all discussions of selfishness of road space taken, you realise that the UK is not exactly like the US in terms of width of roads, and narrow country lanes will not suit these kinds of cars, especially if another one is coming in the opposite direction.
Its a bit ironic, because for all intents and purposes, practicality is supposed to be what these lifestyle vehicles are about. When they get so bloated, I wonder just how practical they really are.
big_rob_sydney said:
Every time I see abominations like this, I just laugh. I mean, why stop there? Why not go out and buy a tank? Good luck parking this in any normal sized parking station without either banging doors, or coming back to find your own doors having been dinged by someone else futilely trying to get out next to you.
Putting aside all discussions of selfishness of road space taken, you realise that the UK is not exactly like the US in terms of width of roads, and narrow country lanes will not suit these kinds of cars, especially if another one is coming in the opposite direction.
Its a bit ironic, because for all intents and purposes, practicality is supposed to be what these lifestyle vehicles are about. When they get so bloated, I wonder just how practical they really are.
What twaddle, my Q7 is easy to drive, I have never come across an issue yet with it being too wide for any roads at all ... most supermarket spaces easily accommodate it, people need to realise that the roads in the UK are not as small as they think, peoples road placement however leaves a lot to be forgiven! Putting aside all discussions of selfishness of road space taken, you realise that the UK is not exactly like the US in terms of width of roads, and narrow country lanes will not suit these kinds of cars, especially if another one is coming in the opposite direction.
Its a bit ironic, because for all intents and purposes, practicality is supposed to be what these lifestyle vehicles are about. When they get so bloated, I wonder just how practical they really are.
Mine spends its life on fast A roads and Mways (c.1500miles weekly) and its a very nice place to be, makes progress well, great visibility - I would happily trade up to this or ideally an RS version
This seems a great alternative to the £100k Land Rover want for a fully specified V8 diesel Range Rover.
The Audi will be reliable (or at least for those of us used to Range Rovers!), quick, comfortable and safe.
Width is more of a problem around town than in the country and many PH cars have that problem - Ferrari et al. The ability to take to the verge (slowly) on narrow roads is handy and helps keep traffic passing.
Great car and a good alternative to an X5 M50d, and both are a much better value proposition than the ridiculous prices Range Rover now look for!
The Audi will be reliable (or at least for those of us used to Range Rovers!), quick, comfortable and safe.
Width is more of a problem around town than in the country and many PH cars have that problem - Ferrari et al. The ability to take to the verge (slowly) on narrow roads is handy and helps keep traffic passing.
Great car and a good alternative to an X5 M50d, and both are a much better value proposition than the ridiculous prices Range Rover now look for!
2300 kg for a car is clearly too much.
I like the engine, but I cannot help but think that in a 1500 kg car it would be a monster, yet in this behemoth it struggles to move.
I honestly cannot think on any valid reason to justify this beast, other than "because I can". Its like an european version of the hummer h2 . Utterly pointless.
But don't mind me, I am the kind of guy who thinks that a proper sports car should weight less than a ton, and it is clear that the market disagrees.
I like the engine, but I cannot help but think that in a 1500 kg car it would be a monster, yet in this behemoth it struggles to move.
I honestly cannot think on any valid reason to justify this beast, other than "because I can". Its like an european version of the hummer h2 . Utterly pointless.
But don't mind me, I am the kind of guy who thinks that a proper sports car should weight less than a ton, and it is clear that the market disagrees.
zerovira said:
I like the engine, but I cannot help but think that in a 1500 kg car it would be a monster, yet in this behemoth it struggles to move.
You have a very odd definition of struggles to move... I mean, did you see the performance stats in the article? Enough to make many 1980's and newer supercars weep.zerovira said:
2300 kg for a car is clearly too much.
I like the engine, but I cannot help but think that in a 1500 kg car it would be a monster, yet in this behemoth it struggles to move.
I honestly cannot think on any valid reason to justify this beast, other than "because I can". Its like an european version of the hummer h2 . Utterly pointless.
But don't mind me, I am the kind of guy who thinks that a proper sports car should weight less than a ton, and it is clear that the market disagrees.
I love a proper, light sports car too but my wife, dog, colleagues etc wouldn't much care for an Elise or MX5 for the longer journeys they often come on in the Range Rover. And yes I do use the MX5 for local journeys if the weather is even vaguely OK. I like the engine, but I cannot help but think that in a 1500 kg car it would be a monster, yet in this behemoth it struggles to move.
I honestly cannot think on any valid reason to justify this beast, other than "because I can". Its like an european version of the hummer h2 . Utterly pointless.
But don't mind me, I am the kind of guy who thinks that a proper sports car should weight less than a ton, and it is clear that the market disagrees.
The reality is that some people want both cars and have worked hard enough to be able to have both.
zerovira said:
I like the engine, but I cannot help but think that in a 1500 kg car it would be a monster, yet in this behemoth it struggles to move.
0-62mph in 4.9 seconds and on to a limited top speed of 155mph is pretty damn quick, far faster than most other cars on UK roads; it's about the same as an M135i or Golf R, I believe. Neither of which can be accused of "struggling to move". Adz The Rat said:
Many people wont get the point of it, its fine, they usually don't get the point of any big SUV.
I cant wait to try it, that engine sounds like it will be a great piece of engineering.
It will sell in great numbers.
I'm sure it will sell, although probably in less spec models.I cant wait to try it, that engine sounds like it will be a great piece of engineering.
It will sell in great numbers.
The thing I don't get is, why do people want to buy something that looks so dull and bland??
The type of vehicle and engine I think are great. But my word that is one boring looking vehicle, inside and out.
Interesting technology there but unfortunately the Q7 is consumerism at it's absolute worst! Not particularly talented in any one area, a vulgar 'chav chariot', an extravagant waste of money designed for the terminally vain and the permanently self absorbed!
I could afford to buy three of these - with cash. Think I'll stick to my second hand RS4 though. Lovely to drive, quicker that the Q7, very rare, very practical and a 1/4 of the price of a new Q7.
I could afford to buy three of these - with cash. Think I'll stick to my second hand RS4 though. Lovely to drive, quicker that the Q7, very rare, very practical and a 1/4 of the price of a new Q7.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 5th May 14:31
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