RE: TVR's rebirth - can it work? PH Blog

RE: TVR's rebirth - can it work? PH Blog

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73RS

71 posts

209 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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I hope the dream comes true. It's a tough market out there as all the niche sports car makers will tell you. Remember it was the Boxster that killed TVR - secondhand they, and the Cayman, are blistering competition. Even Porsche is moving more and more production into SUVs.

Still, it's their money, so good on 'em.

Oh, and I always wanted to try a Sagaris.......

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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Byker28i said:
Side exiting exhausts so the underside can be flat for aerodynamic downforce reasons.
Good luck getting side exits through the DriveBy Noise Test........

TVR used "old" homologation results (think mid 1990's) right up to the end of production to "bypass" some of the more difficult er, factors, with their last cars, but this is not something that can be done now, as production ceased so all previous type approval became null and void.

Byker28i

60,161 posts

218 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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Ok from the show -

BJ Woods - sorry it's not the width of an F type, it is under 2 meters wide - Black S2k - no problem now for you? biggrin

Max-Torque - side exiting exhausts - no issues with the noise tests but with side exiting exhausts people by the road side only hear one half of the engine note. They were talking about a valved cross connection to allow harmonics to cross to improve exhaust noise.

60k mile on the test mule car already.

For those talking £100k, you haven't spoke to TVR, they are saying significantly less than your £100K claims for the Launch edition. There will be a LE colour, one off only used on the LE although other colours would be available if you insisted.

Base car is still around £65k but would be standard engine, not the cossie breathed on one, no carbon chassis etc


Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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Side exhaust exit - not practicable in Europe. Check out the Chrysler Viper compared with US market Dodge Viper.

I still think anyone who hopes to buy a handbuilt V8 sportscar for the price of an Evora is being very optimistic indeed.

Usually the "launch" editions of cars are loaded, not stripped. The maker has to pocket some profit before the initial excitement subsides.

Digger

14,702 posts

192 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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I thought that they were going to be dragging the wrapping off that model this weekend or is it just a tease?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Side exhaust exit - not practicable in Europe. Check out the Chrysler Viper compared with US market Dodge Viper.
I homologated the SRT-10 for Europe, and we had to fit an extra rear silencer and use EVERY trick in the book to get the car past the EU spec test!

PGNSagaris

2,935 posts

167 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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Digger said:
I thought that they were going to be dragging the wrapping off that model this weekend or is it just a tease?
It's just a clay model under the cover sadly

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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Max_Torque said:
I homologated the SRT-10 for Europe, and we had to fit an extra rear silencer and use EVERY trick in the book to get the car past the EU spec test!
Excellent! The off-beat warble of that rumbling V10 was quite something!

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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Cerberaherts said:
allroad one said:
The Cerbera will NOT sell. Especially if you can get one for 10k.
10 grand will buy you a really bad/smashed one. Those days have long gone.....
Either way, it's a bloody 90's TVR, no one in their right mind is gonna pay more than £27000 for a new one, no matter how appealing it is. I hope this is some sort of joke?

dvs_dave

8,645 posts

226 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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allroad one said:
Cerberaherts said:
allroad one said:
The Cerbera will NOT sell. Especially if you can get one for 10k.
10 grand will buy you a really bad/smashed one. Those days have long gone.....
Either way, it's a bloody 90's TVR, no one in their right mind is gonna pay more than £27000 for a new one, no matter how appealing it is. I hope this is some sort of joke?
Are you in the market to buy one, or to just shout on Internet about something you don't know anything about? Joke is on you so far.

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Max_Torque said:
I homologated the SRT-10 for Europe, and we had to fit an extra rear silencer and use EVERY trick in the book to get the car past the EU spec test!
Very cool. And somewhat amusing. hehe

AER

1,142 posts

271 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Max_Torque said:
I homologated the SRT-10 for Europe, and we had to fit an extra rear silencer and use EVERY trick in the book to get the car past the EU spec test!
Yeah, and I did the Vmax testing on the M45. (kind of...)

JonathanLegard

5,187 posts

238 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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ellroy said:
I've had Chimps
You are Michael Jackson AICMFP.

Cerberaherts

1,651 posts

142 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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allroad one said:
Either way, it's a bloody 90's TVR, no one in their right mind is gonna pay more than £27000 for a new one, no matter how appealing it is. I hope this is some sort of joke?
You appear to have no clue what you are talking about or be in the market for a Tvr anyway?

Edited by Cerberaherts on Monday 9th May 05:30

Byker28i

60,161 posts

218 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Cerberaherts said:
allroad one said:
Either way, it's a bloody 90's TVR, no one in their right mind is gonna pay more than £27000 for a new one, no matter how appealing it is. I hope this is some sort of joke?
You appear to have no clue what you are talking about or be in the market for a Tvr anyway?

Edited by Cerberaherts on Monday 9th May 05:30
How much did the Sagaris finally sell for around £65k? They all sold. Guess what they are selling for currently...

Hint
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
http://www.mole-valley.co.uk/tvr-sagaris-only-12-3...

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 9th May 07:00

Byker28i

60,161 posts

218 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Side exhaust exit - not practicable in Europe. Check out the Chrysler Viper compared with US market Dodge Viper.

I still think anyone who hopes to buy a handbuilt V8 sportscar for the price of an Evora is being very optimistic indeed.

Usually the "launch" editions of cars are loaded, not stripped. The maker has to pocket some profit before the initial excitement subsides.
Launch edition is indeed the fully spec'd version, still expected to be around £85k, fully tuned cossie engine, carbon chassis.

Side exit exhaust not possible in Europe? Mercedes Mclaren SLR managed it ok.

Byker28i

60,161 posts

218 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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PGNSagaris said:
Digger said:
I thought that they were going to be dragging the wrapping off that model this weekend or is it just a tease?
It's just a clay model under the cover sadly
It's a tease, it's certainly generated interest and discussion. TVR stand was probably the busiest yesterday and overhearing conversations were all about TVR being back and the car under the cover, not all the others on show.


Bill

52,835 posts

256 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Did they borrow the F-type clay from Jaguar? wink

Byker28i

60,161 posts

218 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Nope - shorter, less width, interesting sag type dip in the roofline down the middle.

Byker28i

60,161 posts

218 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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allroad one said:
Either way, it's a bloody 90's TVR, no one in their right mind is gonna pay more than £27000 for a new one, no matter how appealing it is. I hope this is some sort of joke?
Seen the M600 relaunch
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Noble have appointed Super Veloce Racing (SVR) as their official sales and service dealer. At £206,820(excluding options & V.A.T) for the Sport Coupe and £231,091.50 (excluding options & V.A.T) for the Carbon Sport, the M600 is more expensive than the 488GTB, Huracan and 650S.

Need to add VAT to that!