RE: TVR's rebirth - can it work? PH Blog
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The Surveyor said:
You mean like Nicoli did when he stopped production for 6 months in 2003/4 to make improvements across the whole production. It was all too little too late, but the later cars were much better in quality terms.
Still, you are right in that the new car needs to be spot-on from the launch.
Good points.. Personally (and as I say I'm more biased in TVR's favour since I love 'em), I think they would have needed more dramatic (and obvious to the public) changes at that stage to regain any kind of decent PR..... Still, you are right in that the new car needs to be spot-on from the launch.
Even I assumed that the Speed 6 would break my heart, regardless of the year that I bought one..
900T-R said:
Fire99 said:
the cars needed development not just replacement with another car that then needed development.
Exactly this. But then again - you could never call old TVR a customer-driven business - it was very much PW's train set and if you bought into it, you were just along for the ride...
And that business model (if you can call it one) will ultimately run out of steam (excuse the train pun) eventually... 
Byker28i said:
900T-R said:
DonkeyApple said:
If a car can get you down to Le Mans without gassing you, boiling you and keeping you in a constant state of worry as to whether it will restart after a petrol stop then it is a positively civilised and luxurious car.
Ehm, you know they're not supposed to do any of that anyway - not even old-school TVRs. After having been in this particular stratosphere for the best part of a decade, I am pretty sure that myth is being kept alive by lazy mechanics and unscrupulous sellers...I must have imagined the streams of 'hot start' posts over the last two decades, or the posts about fumes in cabins, or the ones about the aircon being pretty rubbish, or any of the posts about silly electrical faults as a bit of cheap wiring gave up holding hands.
DonkeyApple said:
That sounds like rose tinted owner syndrome.
I must have imagined the streams of 'hot start' posts over the last two decades, or the posts about fumes in cabins, or the ones about the aircon being pretty rubbish, or any of the posts about silly electrical faults as a bit of cheap wiring gave up holding hands.
Everyone knows that TVRs left Bristol Avenue only 90-95% (depending on the day and time) finished. To leave a car in that condition, however, is not a question of preserving the car's character - it's a sign of laziness and incompetence on the side of the person that's supposed to look after the car. I must have imagined the streams of 'hot start' posts over the last two decades, or the posts about fumes in cabins, or the ones about the aircon being pretty rubbish, or any of the posts about silly electrical faults as a bit of cheap wiring gave up holding hands.
Re: wiring - after 23 years, the wiring harness is a damn sight better preserved than the ones on some 'bank vault build quality' Swedish and German machinery I've been acquainted with at that age.
As an aside, a retired engineer friend from the US always referred to Bosch as 'German for AC Delco' and I don't think that was meant as a compliment - damning with faint praise at best Edited by 900T-R on Tuesday 17th May 14:01
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