RE: Fast Fiestas: a history lesson
Discussion
Hol said:
I have a video at home with that Fiesta and some Escorts racing around a Frozen lake to classical music.
It was one of those 'Sports Scene' products and I only keep a video recorder in the spare room, so I can rewatch those old rally videos.
This https://youtu.be/Eb01BM5Nj7o?list=FLdCt09wuHWqQsC4...It was one of those 'Sports Scene' products and I only keep a video recorder in the spare room, so I can rewatch those old rally videos.
Great video.
mwstewart said:
Hol said:
The 105/130 Difference was Cams, Throttle Body and Ecu.
I know that, because I had a 1.8 105BHP LXI as a cheap runaround, that I stuck the 130 ECU, Cams and throttle body from a scrapper 130 into. The cams were almost the same spec as 2.0 cams, but not exactly the same.
One key difference is the HO (High Output) inlet manifold specific to the 130. At the time I converted two engines and road tested them; the performance difference really surprised me. The 130 also has piston oil cooling jets.I know that, because I had a 1.8 105BHP LXI as a cheap runaround, that I stuck the 130 ECU, Cams and throttle body from a scrapper 130 into. The cams were almost the same spec as 2.0 cams, but not exactly the same.
Hol said:
There was actually both a 105 and 115bhp version of the 1.8. The silvertop engines 105 and the blacktop zetec E engines 115.
The 105 was the Series 1 Zetec. The 115 was a Series 2 with later plastic inlet manifold. Both Silver Top if we're talking Escorts 
nice to see I'm not the only one that knows these silly details.
The belt driven 1.6/1.8/2 litre zetecs where completely different to the chain driven 2litre RS2000 motor too.
My first car looked just like this one (RFJ90W). Loved it, shame some twunt wrote it off.
To answer a couple of questions raised on here and some that nobody has asked,
They had the same engine as the Ghia and 1300S.
They made 3000 of them.
Only available in Diamond White, Sunburst Red, Stratos Silver and Black.
I could go on.
My two best mates had a mk2 Xr2 and. Nova SR, the Supersport held its own due to the almost comically low gearing (2nd ran out at 45mph). The brakes were nearly as bad as the Nova, helped immensely by bracing the servo to the engine mount to stop the flexing!
I loved my mates XR2, it was a C plate with the earlier carb.
I bought my own Xr2 (F86SML) and loved it but it was definitely slower than the earlier cars.
Would I have either again? In a heartbeat.
Hol said:
OK, im gonna have to admit that I know more than I am letting on. 
The 105/130 Difference was Cams, Throttle Body and Ecu.
I know that, because I had a 1.8 105BHP LXI as a cheap runaround, that I stuck the 130 ECU, Cams and throttle body from a scrapper 130 into. The cams were almost the same spec as 2.0 cams, but not exactly the same.
There was actually both a 105 and 115bhp version of the 1.8. The silvertop engines 105 and the blacktop zetec E engines 115.
I agree that the RS1800 was a poor name as it detracted from the SVA/Post Boreham BDA engine RS1800 cars.
I have some 130 cams in my garage if anybody wants them off me ! I was gonna use them in my mk2 escort but that was 5 years ago now , had a few cars since !
Someone mentioned the 2.0 being a 'boat anchor', but that descript is usually associated with the Pinto 8v lump and sometimes the poorly conceived twin cam 8v lump found in the Sierra and Mk5/6 RS2000.
(again that RS2000, was nothing compared to the rwd predecessor)
The 105/130 Difference was Cams, Throttle Body and Ecu.
I know that, because I had a 1.8 105BHP LXI as a cheap runaround, that I stuck the 130 ECU, Cams and throttle body from a scrapper 130 into. The cams were almost the same spec as 2.0 cams, but not exactly the same.
There was actually both a 105 and 115bhp version of the 1.8. The silvertop engines 105 and the blacktop zetec E engines 115.
I agree that the RS1800 was a poor name as it detracted from the SVA/Post Boreham BDA engine RS1800 cars.
I have some 130 cams in my garage if anybody wants them off me ! I was gonna use them in my mk2 escort but that was 5 years ago now , had a few cars since !
Someone mentioned the 2.0 being a 'boat anchor', but that descript is usually associated with the Pinto 8v lump and sometimes the poorly conceived twin cam 8v lump found in the Sierra and Mk5/6 RS2000.
(again that RS2000, was nothing compared to the rwd predecessor)
X5TUU said:
And the mk2 still looks the best/prettiest out of all of them imho
Yep, I even owned two mk2, 1st a met blue model, (with 2x40 downdraft webbers, full Janspeed system & tarox discs up front) sold it, then missed it and went for a red one and had engine blueprinted by specialized engines..great fun was had:-)! What's sad to me is not the fact that the RS Turbo is not included, but that no one's mentioned how fat, huge and un-involving they've become. Look at the dash picture. The dash in the new car is at least twice as deep as the old car. The visibility is far less all round, the steering feel is now so far detached (but we're apparently used to no feel) that the car shouldn't be called a hot hatch. Hot hatches should be light, nippy, easy to have fun in and not a lesson in putting silly power through the wheels at the expense of feel.
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