RE: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde: Driven

RE: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde: Driven

Friday 13th May 2016

2016 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio | Review

Lots of waiting and not much driving, but the range-topper is definitely the most fun car in the Giulia range



The Internet, which we know is right about everything, reckons that Italy has produced many famous mathematicians. Few of them work in the field of the country's automotive PR though, where the bosses still seem to struggle with basic division. How else to explain Alfa Romeo's decision to invite 50 journos to drive the dizzying total of four Giulia Quadrifoglio Verdes?

Sod the suspense - it's really good!
Sod the suspense - it's really good!
There was a relative abundance of the lesser version of Alfa's new compact saloon to try - read about the diesel and 2.0-litre petrol versions soon - but PH had made the trip to Italy in hopes of spending some time in the M3-baitingflagship, complete with a 510hp twin-turbocharged V6 engine. The reality was as veteran soldiers describe combat being - lots and lots of waiting followed by a very brief period of excitement.

It was nearly a total wash-out though; torrential rain at the Balocco test track led to us being told we weren't actually going to get to drive the car at all, merely experience it from the passenger seat wearing heart rate monitors. That caused something close to a mutiny, with the eventual compromise that we would be allowed onto the handling track only in the presence of a chaperone to make sure we didn't engage 'Race' mode and thereby turn off the stability control. (This after watching a video montage of Quadrifoglios drifting in slow motion.)

I want to break free
Snapper Tim and I come up with a sneaky plan B - to nab the spare car, which has been reserved for photography. It still comes with a minder to stop me from having too much fun, but it does allow for a chance to familiarise myself with what's definitely the most exciting Giulia while taking some snaps on a separate track.

Styling is safe, but executed very nicely
Styling is safe, but executed very nicely
It looks much better than the standard car. Like BMW's recent M cars the Quadrifoglio gives the strong impression that it was designed first, with its lesser sisters then visually downtuned. It's still not the most original piece of styling, but it's chunky and muscular in a way the standard Giulia isn't, those gorgeous leaf-pattern alloys filling its arches and with a rear diffuser that looks like it could stick it to the ceiling. Lightweight parts include a carbon fibre bonnet, roof, front splitter and the lippy little tail spoiler. Carbon ceramic brakes are an option. Extensive use of aluminium elsewhere enables Alfa to claim a kerbweight of 1,580kg for the manual (there isn't a figure for the auto yet.)

The cabin features lots of carbon trim, huggy sports seats and - the crucial difference - a rotary controller for the DNA dynamic mode system that includes that all important fourth setting - 'Race'. This tightens up the adjustable dampers to their most aggressive, rat traps the throttle pedal and transmission, makes the exhaust louder and turns off the stability control.

The photography car also has a manual gearbox which, as with other Giulia variants, won't be making it to any right-hand drive markets. It's fun to try it, though - it's got a nice heft to it and shifts accurately. It also gives a chance to confirm that the 2.9-litre twin-turbo V6 has a fair bit of low down lag, but gathers pace quickly once the tacho needle gets past the '3' mark.

Revvy, sounds good, plenty fast enough - success!
Revvy, sounds good, plenty fast enough - success!
Fandango
The official line in the press kit is that the new V6 engine is "inspired by Ferrari technology and technical skills", which seems a very odd way of putting it. It's actually the first six-cylinder member of the F154 family, the one with a 90-degree vee that, in V8 form, powers the Ferrari California T, 488 GTB and also the Maserati Quattroporte GTS. It's not to be confused with the petrol V6 in the Ghibli and (non-RHD) Levante, which have 60 degrees between their cylinder banks. The Alfa's engine is all-aluminium and has selective cylinder deactivation to boost economy. All right-hand drive versions will get the eight-speed ZF auto 'box, with drive delivered to the rear end through a trick torque-biasing differential which uses two electronically controlled clutches.

Rude not to
That's more than enough theory, but my determination to put some of it into practice is limited by the sort of wait times for a go on track normally the preserve of theme park rides on a sunny Saturday. On the plus side, drying conditions mean that we've lost the chaperones, and Alfa boss Harald Wester even responds to a question about motorsport ambitions in the press conference by inviting us to go and have a race on the track.

Eventually my turn comes around. The Quadrifoglios are being sent out on one of the longest configurations of Balocco's handling track, but with cone chicanes put on the straights to stop things from getting too exciting. I start in 'Dynamic' mode, so stability control stays on and the rear differential is doing its best to help the car turn and get traction down.

You want to be silly? The Giulia does too!
You want to be silly? The Giulia does too!
It's properly quick. The V6 has a nice snarl to it and seems to enjoy being revved to the 7,000rpm redline, and while the eight-speed auto box can't match the snap-crack shifts of a DSG it feels quick enough when worked in manual mode. Grip levels are impressively high, too - and those optional carbon-ceramic brakes seem tireless, although the pedal is a bit inert after the standard car's excellent stoppers. The direct steering feels much better with the Quadrifoglio's more aggressive chassis settings and under higher track loads as well.

As in the diesel version, the Quadrifoglio's 'Dynamic' mode still doesn't allow any meaningful rear-end slip, although electronic intervention is far more subtle than in that car. However, it's not long before the rotary switch is in its 'Race' setting and the stability is fully off. Rude not to, right?

Everything starts to make sense. The Giulia is brilliant - throttle adjustable in a far more friendly way than the BMW M3. It starts to slide at lower speeds but does so more progressively and with everything relayed back in real time. The quick-acting steering is more than up to keeping everything pointing (mostly) in the chosen direction as well; it feels like one of those cars you could drive hard for a very long time without getting bored of.

Bring on the M3. No, really
Bring on the M3. No, really
Time isn't something I've got much of - there's a queue of other journos anxious for their go. Like the best theme park rides my time in the Quadrifoglio seems to be over practically before it's begun and I'm watching the next willing victim blast off while I try to gather my thoughts.

Ancora per favore
While praise for the lesser Giulias was heavily provisoed (spoiler alert), enthusiasm for the range-topper is unambiguous after this brief first impression. There's a fine tradition of journos getting a bit over-keen after these Italian amuse-bouche drive events - I'm the guy who declared the 156 GTA to be the second coming after an almost equally brief first acquaintance. So I'm not going to leave too many hostages to fortune this time. But I'm really, really looking forward to having a proper go in the Quadrifoglio, preferably in the company of a BMW M3 and a Mercedes-AMG C63.


ALFA ROMEO GIULIA QUADRIFOGLIO VERDE
Engine
: 2,891cc, V6 twin-turbo
Transmission: 8-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 510@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 443@2,500rpm
0-62mph: 3.9sec
Top speed: 190mph
Weight: 1,580kg
MPG: 33.2
CO2: 198g/km
Price: £55,000 (estimate), on sale September 2016.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Photos: Tim Brown

 

Author
Discussion

Cassius81

Original Poster:

283 posts

190 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Looks superb to me, and the decent reviews are a relief...!

Will there be an estate version?

patmahe

5,756 posts

205 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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A return to form for Alfa? I certainly hope so. I know its the way things are going but I'd be much more excited if I thought I could have one with a gearstick rather than paddles though.

Fetchez la vache

5,575 posts

215 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Fantastic.
Make it as an estate please too smile

dlockhart

434 posts

173 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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It looks like Alfa have refound the magic they had 10 years ago

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

100 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Did you get about answer to why the manual is being made available in RHD?


Dave_ST220

10,296 posts

206 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Wow.

HughS47

572 posts

135 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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That looks excellent. I await the full reviews with interest!

Twoshoe

856 posts

185 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Oh, go on then, I'll have one - probably in that colour too.

kambites

67,598 posts

222 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Shame we wont get the manual, but I suppose this class of car has got so big and barge-like that automatics make sense really. Interesting to hear that the engine has quite a high boost threshold. It's unusual to find a turbo these days which doesn't pull almost from idle.

It does seem an odd choice having such a big gap between the range-topper and the "cooking" models. I'd have thought a ~300bhp V6 or even inline-4, both diesel and petrol, would have been worthwhile. Surely there will be people who can't justify the cost of a QV but want more than 140bhp/tonne?


To my eye it looks disappointingly Germanic. It seems that the modern Alfa are capable of doing attractive or good but not both at once. It's probably better looking than the 3-series but miles behind the XE to my eyes.

Edited by kambites on Friday 13th May 14:42

Tuvra

7,921 posts

226 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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I guess I am the only Alfa fan that doesn't like the look of it frown

Quickmoose

4,497 posts

124 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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God.... if only I had a family and needed a 4 door muscle car...this'd be it...

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

107 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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coolcoolcoolcoolcool

Lots of love for that (as a long standing Alfa fan)

Alex_225

6,265 posts

202 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Tuvra said:
I guess I am the only Alfa fan that doesn't like the look of it frown
No, I don't think it's particularly good looking either I'm afraid.

I'm not an Alfa owner but one thing I can always say is that many an Alfa has been a good looking car. A member of my family has a Brera Spider and it's a cracking looking convertible, a friend has a MiTo and again it's a good looking car. The Giulia isn't pretty and doesn't have that Italian flare that they usually have. It looks like it's trying hard to be tough looking, it looks like an Italian trying to be a German.

Can't doubt it's performance credentials though that's for sure.

davebem

746 posts

178 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Tuvra said:
I guess I am the only Alfa fan that doesn't like the look of it frown
Im still not convinced, until Ive seen one in the flesh anyway. But maybe it is better than its rivals these days. There doesnt appear to be any traditional Alfa styling cues (except for the scudetto) and attention to detail. They should have got Giugiaro back in..

moffat

1,020 posts

226 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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I'm going to be in the market for a new M3/M4 at the end of the year so this is now very high on the list. My only real concerns are not the car, but 1) the pitiful dealer network and 2) comparable deals to an M4 Competition Pack.

I hope Alfa really prep their dealer network so they understand the car and the types of customers. This really us a huge step up for Alfa and it's probably the most expensive car Alfa have ever sold.

I know BMW won't think twice to giving me a set of keys for an extended 24-48 hour test drive...

Friggatron

21 posts

130 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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I really think this looks so good, especially in this colour too, I love how distinct it looks. Was behind a Maserati Ghibli earlier and it really didn't look prestige at all, which of course, not being 'shouty' is no bad thing, but it was at the lights alongside some Hyundai thing and a somethingorother Peugeot Estate, and all 3 seemed to have identical tail lights. The front of the Ghibli however is lovely, but if I was in the bracket for a sporty saloon in this bracket, i'd be straight to the Alfa dealership.

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

192 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Twoshoe said:
Oh, go on then, I'll have one - probably in that colour too.
How much do Alfa charge for that paint job these days?

Last time I checked it was North of 2 grand or something and that was some special offer.









Leins

9,479 posts

149 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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I've not been an Alfa fan for quite a long time, but I really like that

AlexHat

1,327 posts

120 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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If it's 8C Red then yes its a stupid amount of money for a paint job, if it is just the usual Alfa Red, it may come as one of the standard colours along with White. Still, I like the look of this and it's good to see an Alfa getting positive reviews from almost everywhere for once!

Dave Hedgehog

14,572 posts

205 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Leins said:
I've not been an Alfa fan for quite a long time, but I really like that
yep

its hugely more desirable than an RS / M / AMG

that design is spot on IMO