RE: Ford Focus RS vs. Honda Civic Type R
Discussion
JoeMarano said:
Axionknight said:
Junior supercar territory?
Funny you should mention that....had a play with one of those the other day and I thought they would be a lot quicker given they have over 400 odd torques or so don't they?Guy barely pulled a length and it was uphill too!
A liar
Desperate
Or both. Good day to you Sir.
Axionknight said:
Johnnytheboy said:
We are about a page away from a remapped Polo GTi replacing a remapped 335D as the PH performance yardstick.
Junior supercar territory?PH should do a road test comparison for the junior supercar title.
yonex said:
JoeMarano said:
It was because all the reviews said it had better road manners than anything in its class yet not being far behind for involvement. Since I drive on the road 99.9% of the time that's the answer.
There was a test by a south African autotrader (I believe)that compared the ST, Clio and Polo on track and the Polo came in second one second slower than the ST on a one minute forty ish lap
For that test they used the dsg version which has 70nm less torque than the manual.
That said those same testers had the Polo and ST come neck and neck in a drag race which just wouldn't happen as the Polo has more power and torque than the ST and also has quicker 0-60 and top speed.
uh huh.There was a test by a south African autotrader (I believe)that compared the ST, Clio and Polo on track and the Polo came in second one second slower than the ST on a one minute forty ish lap
For that test they used the dsg version which has 70nm less torque than the manual.
That said those same testers had the Polo and ST come neck and neck in a drag race which just wouldn't happen as the Polo has more power and torque than the ST and also has quicker 0-60 and top speed.
So we are looking at south african road tests then, it was still slower? Ah, it was DSG which has less torque..conclusive then
The reason it's not benchmarked is because it's good but not exceptional, I hate to be the one to break it to you. You bought it (factually) because you couldn't afford the Clio and you were afraid you'd like the ST. It's fine liking a car but to then promote it as a class leader based upon your own personal decisions is like licking a stamp on the reverse side and expecting it to stick.
It's a good car though.
Then I see Joe has been at it again
he paid Megane RS money for his Polo looked (& found it in South Africa) round for a reason to justify the fact he liked the soft touch dash more than he liked driving dynamics! lolyonex said:
But how can something not be worth it when you haven't driven it? I'm genuinely baffled how you are linking all the dots around what both the buying public and the reviews say are the best cars in the sector. Either, you are somewhat enlightened or I am missing something here? You chose a 'compromise', I put it to you that this is your personal 335d (mapped) and that you are sunk up to your nuts defending a one night stand that has turned into a pregnancy test and triplets as something that was, for the best.
The buying public are stupid and will always buy a Ford over every other car! The old Clio 200 cup was universally praised yet no one bought one!!! As for the reviews of course when you get given scoops on global cars you are going to praise them beyond belief!Polo GTis are alright and I rate them more highly than the modern Golfs but the handling is still very VAG and a bit dull. Quick but they just don't set your pants on fire through the bendy bits like a good French hatch or banzai jap one.
Best hot hatch I've driven was my old FN2 type R. That thing stuck to the road like he proverbial to a blanket, the steering was pin sharp with oodles of feedback.....and that noise! It was also the most reliable and cheapest to run car I've ever owned. It's actually a year since I sold it and I miss it quite a bit. When I bought it I looked at Golfs, Polos, S3s, Meganes, clios etc. They all had things hey excelled at but the Civic was the one that on an open road was hands down the most fun and aural experience of the lot, even if on paper it wasn't the quickest. The golf was the worst.
Best hot hatch I've driven was my old FN2 type R. That thing stuck to the road like he proverbial to a blanket, the steering was pin sharp with oodles of feedback.....and that noise! It was also the most reliable and cheapest to run car I've ever owned. It's actually a year since I sold it and I miss it quite a bit. When I bought it I looked at Golfs, Polos, S3s, Meganes, clios etc. They all had things hey excelled at but the Civic was the one that on an open road was hands down the most fun and aural experience of the lot, even if on paper it wasn't the quickest. The golf was the worst.
JoeMarano said:
The buying public are stupid and will always buy a Ford over every other car! The old Clio 200 cup was universally praised yet no one bought one!!! As for the reviews of course when you get given scoops on global cars you are going to praise them beyond belief!
So are you coming to join me at Bedford to show me the way round? Anytime this month?ZX10R NIN said:
Came onto this thread for a good read & to say that it came as no surprise that the 2wd car was more fun than the 4wd one as has been the Megane & Golf R.
Then I see Joe has been at it again he paid Megane RS money for his Polo looked (& found it in South Africa) round for a reason to justify the fact he liked the soft touch dash more than he liked driving dynamics! lol
Then I see Joe has been at it again
he paid Megane RS money for his Polo looked (& found it in South Africa) round for a reason to justify the fact he liked the soft touch dash more than he liked driving dynamics! lol
t car too aye.Nuts... I was thinking why this thread has this amount of pages and having just read the last few I now realise...
The same happened in the hothatch thread?
Joe, I'm sure you purchased the Polo and deep down regret it but always talk
about it to to help you think it made sense.
I dare anyone to be able to watch all of this -
https://youtu.be/GGC6R5jiZSY
The same happened in the hothatch thread?
Joe, I'm sure you purchased the Polo and deep down regret it but always talk
about it to to help you think it made sense.
I dare anyone to be able to watch all of this -
https://youtu.be/GGC6R5jiZSY
Edited by BertyFish on Tuesday 24th May 23:12
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