ST engine in fiesta 1.25 mk7 HELP

ST engine in fiesta 1.25 mk7 HELP

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nickmylipple

Original Poster:

2 posts

94 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Any help will be appreciated as I have no clue what this involves
I want to put the 1.6 eco turbo in my 59 plate 1.25
Can anyone tell me what this involves and what sort of place to call to fit it
(i live in london if anyone knows anywhere)

Defcon5

6,161 posts

190 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Why do you want to do this instead of just buying an ST

nickmylipple

Original Poster:

2 posts

94 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Defcon5 said:
Why do you want to do this instead of just buying an ST
the main reason is 5 door

Trixxz

90 posts

101 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Buy a focus ST then? By the time you have sourced and engine, uprated the brakes and everything else you would have been better off in sourcing a second hand ST surely?

DuraAce

4,240 posts

159 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Buy another car.
Way more cost effective.

sfella

876 posts

107 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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As has been said it's a none starter. Unless you can do it yourself over a period of time just for the sake of it then it won't be practical. Engine,ecu,brakes,suspension,wheels, I would imagine fuel system would need beefing also. After all that you need to call your insurance and declare all those modifications, it isn't worth it.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

185 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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If you have no idea it's probably not the project for you.

AlexRS2782

8,025 posts

212 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Defcon5 said:
Why do you want to do this instead of just buying an ST
Because after it's been dropped in, it wont be declared to the DVLA and, just like all the adverts for these sorts of cars whenever they appear on eBay / Gumtree, it will be listed in the text as "still 1.25 on the logbook. Forgot to declare it when I did the conversion, therefore up to new owner to declare".

Or alternatively in FaceAche ad speak "cheep tax / insurance cuz DVLA dunt no bowt da nu lump innit bruv. Up ta nu owna 2 declair or leaf az iz, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, innit bruv".

daemon

35,724 posts

196 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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AlexRS2782 said:
Defcon5 said:
Why do you want to do this instead of just buying an ST
Because after it's been dropped in, it wont be declared to the DVLA and, just like all the adverts for these sorts of cars whenever they appear on eBay / Gumtree, it will be listed in the text as "still 1.25 on the logbook. Forgot to declare it when I did the conversion, therefore up to new owner to declare".

Or alternatively in FaceAche ad speak "cheep tax / insurance cuz DVLA dunt no bowt da nu lump innit bruv. Up ta nu owna 2 declair or leaf az iz, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, innit bruv".
Thats the reality of it most likely.

MikeTFSI

4,985 posts

101 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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I would love a 5 door ST fiesta so I say go for it and tell us all about how well it went.

Evolved

3,554 posts

186 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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This isn't going to plan.



Edited by Evolved on Sunday 22 May 19:47

daemon

35,724 posts

196 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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nickmylipple said:
Defcon5 said:
Why do you want to do this instead of just buying an ST
the main reason is 5 door
I'd go for a 5 door variant of something else.

Far far far too much hassle and would rely on you finding a rear ended ST so you can use all the frontal parts, suspension, wiring, etc, and then you'd be lashing that together with your own car.

You'd be better off with a mint hot hatch like a 182 Trophy for the weekend and your own fiesta for when you need a 5 door.

(Assuming of course you're not really trying to bluff the insurance wink)

daemon

35,724 posts

196 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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nickmylipple said:
Any help will be appreciated as I have no clue what this involves
I want to put the 1.6 eco turbo in my 59 plate 1.25
Can anyone tell me what this involves and what sort of place to call to fit it
(i live in london if anyone knows anywhere)
It would cost a fortune to pay someone else to do. Didnt realise you couldnt do it yourself.

Youre stuffed.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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The swap will be fairly easy, pretty much everything will just bolt/plug in. Not 100% how much things like looms etc changed between the Mk7 and Mk7.5 but someone's put a 2L Ecoboost in to a Mk7 so this should be easy.

It is however a complete waste of money, and you'd be looking at a fair amount if you paid a company to do it for you, probably more than an ST actually costs.

rb5er

11,657 posts

171 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Unless you have a donor fiesta ST then sourcing the parts will be a big pain. I'm sure someone like jamsport can out a 2.0 zetec turbo in there more economically.

Evolved

3,554 posts

186 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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This just has non declared engine swap written all over it!

W12JFD

377 posts

164 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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I presume you are all aware that for the mature driver modified / engine swapped cars are cheaper to insure than standard? Pal of mine has a 220bhp supercharged MX5 costing £240 fully comp. The logic is that after spending hours and cash on the vehicle you'd probably prefer not to crash it. I'm not sure this would apply if you are eighteen though!

TroubledSoul

4,589 posts

193 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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It's a good job that lad who converted the diesel Focus estate to an ST petrol engine didn't ask you lot first! laugh

Horse Pop

685 posts

143 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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Suggest you get quotes from garages who do this kind of thing.

Bear in mind there's more to the ST than just the engine and gearbox.

Uprated suspension / different rear axle.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

134 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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TroubledSoul said:
It's a good job that lad who converted the diesel Focus estate to an ST petrol engine didn't ask you lot first! laugh
He knew what he was doing, though.