In the news - Jaguar Land Rover Manager - Road Rage Crash

[DonkeyApple]

JasperT said:

k-ink said:

I agree. Barbie pink insurance group 1 cars, with a limiter and a black box.

Bring back Invacar.

[Ari]

Dave Hedgehog said:

looking at the clip it was their video, and its only the external shot, no liveleak type stuff

it is good that he's got a long sentence, but for the grace of god and all that

What the juddering fk!!?

This is normal behaviour for you is it..???

Jesus Christ!

[Ari]

MrBarry123 said:

It was a tragic accident and I feel desperately sorry for the two little girls (and their family) involved but it was just that, an accident - a terrible error of judgement by the Discovery driver when he wasn't thinking coherently. He absolutely acted in an unacceptable manner and the custodial sentence is justified however I can't agree with those on here who are calling for him to suffer forms of intolerable hardship.

Amazing.

[StottyEvo]

Looking at the video and hearing that his testimony was seemingly filled with lies in order to get himself off. My opinion is that 4 1/2 years is a short sentence, 8 would've been more appropriate IMO.

[DuraAce]

Ari said:

Amazing.

Isn't it? Is he watching a different clip to the rest of us?

[MrBarry123]

Ari said:

Amazing.

Eh? It was. He didn't intentionally try to hit the other car did he?

I haven't said the bloke is innocent however he's guilty of manslaughter, not murder.

[k-ink]

MrBarry123 said:

It was a tragic accident and I feel desperately sorry for the two little girls (and their family) involved but it was just that, an accident - a terrible error of judgement by the Discovery driver when he wasn't thinking coherently. He absolutely acted in an unacceptable manner and the custodial sentence is justified however I can't agree with those on here who are calling for him to suffer forms of intolerable hardship.

An accident is something which happens from making a small error. This is beyond an avoidable little accident. The results are the highly likely outcome of deciding to drive a huge truck at reckless speeds into oncoming traffic, whilst under some ridiculous and ongoing road rage fury. Accident my arse.

Also intolerable hardship would be living a life in a disabled body, through no fault of your own.

A driving ban and a brief stay in a prison (costing us tax payers circa £160k) is not intolerable hardship. He will be out and about in no time at all, back driving again. Free to live his life again.

This total arse deserves far more punishment than he is getting away with.

[nffcforever]

MrBarry123 said:

Eh? It was. He didn't intentionally try to hit the other car did he?

I haven't said the bloke is innocent however he's guilty of manslaughter, not murder.

Again with people running off with the wrong end of the stick. It was accidental that he careered into the oncoming car. That wasn't intentional. There's no way it could have been; he couldn't see it until it was too late. However, his actions in driving like a tool, squeezing past the Mercedes and then making the right turn were obviously intentional. I don't think anyones suggesting his hand accidentally turned the wheel.

[Ozzie Osmond]

MrBarry123 said:

It was a tragic accident and I feel desperately sorry for the two little girls (and their family) involved but it was just that, an accident - a terrible error of judgement by the Discovery driver when he wasn't thinking coherently. He absolutely acted in an unacceptable manner and the custodial sentence is justified however I can't agree with those on here who are calling for him to suffer forms of intolerable hardship.

Agreed. Fortunately courts are not in the hands of the internet.

[SWoll]

MrBarry123 said:

It was a tragic accident and I feel desperately sorry for the two little girls (and their family) involved but it was just that, an accident - a terrible error of judgement by the Discovery driver when he wasn't thinking coherently. He absolutely acted in an unacceptable manner and the custodial sentence is justified however I can't agree with those on here who are calling for him to suffer forms of intolerable hardship.

Indeed. He's only paralysed a couple of young girls and removed any chance of them living a normal life from here onwards along with the massive strain that will now be put on their parents raising them. Let's hope he spends a nice quiet couple of years in nick and is let out to get on with his life as best he can.

You are aware of how ironic using the term 'intolerable hardship' is when describing his suffering aren't you?

k-ink said:

An accident is something which happens from making a small error. This is beyond an avoidable little accident. The results are the highly likely outcome of deciding to drive a huge truck at reckless speeds into oncoming traffic, whilst under some ridiculous and ongoing road rage fury. Accident my arse.

Also intolerable hardship would be living a life in a disabled body, through no fault of your own.

A driving ban and a brief stay in a prison (costing us tax payers circa £160k) is not intolerable hardship. He will be out and about in no time at all, back driving again. Free to live his life again.

This total arse deserves far more punishment than he is getting away with.

This. Once your actions make the likelihood of something bad occurring higher than not, is it really still an accident when it does?

Edited by SWoll on Friday 27th May 17:29

[Ozzie Osmond]

^^ The role of the justice system is not "revenge".

[nffcforever]

SWoll said:

Indeed. He's only paralysed a couple of young girls and removed any chance of them living a normal life from here onwards along with the massive strain that will now be put on their parents raising them. Let's hope he spends a nice quiet couple of years in nick and is let out to get on with his life as best he can.

You are aware of how ironic using the term 'intolerable hardship' is when describing his suffering aren't you?

You're getting confused between what his punishment actually will be (not intolerable) and what some posters have suggested they would like to do, or would like to have happen, to him (including rape, for example).

[405dogvan]

Ozzie Osmond said:

^^ The role of the justice system is not "revenge".

Repeated for emphasis

[nffcforever]

Ari said:

Abso-bloody-lutely!

Some of the comments on this thread are astonishing!

And you're agreeing with someone who's on the opposite side of the argument to you.

[k-ink]

SWoll said:

Indeed. He's only paralysed a couple of young girls and removed any chance of them living a normal life from here onwards along with the massive strain that will now be put on their parents raising them. Let's hope he spends a nice quiet couple of years in nick and is let out to get on with his life as best he can.

You are aware of how ironic using the term 'intolerable hardship' is when describing his suffering aren't you?

Indeed. Poor (furious road rage) kitten. Maybe the guy should set up a GoFundMe page so we can buy him an RS6 ready for his early release. Throw in a bit of counselling too. Maybe a back rub and a holiday to take away his stress.

[Ari]

MrBarry123 said:

Ari said:

Amazing.

Eh? It was. He didn't intentionally try to hit the other car did he?

I haven't said the bloke is innocent however he's guilty of manslaughter, not murder.

You have read the story and watched the video haven't you?

No one died...

[k-ink]

Jockman said:

Countdown said:

guru_1071 said:

Shy Torque said:

In addition, JLR's insurers are not admitting liability and quibbling about the cost of the children's treatment, although they have made an interim payment.

Edited by Shy Torque on Friday 27th May 12:09

JLR should be ashamed about this

I think it's a little unfair to blame JLR. It's their insurers who are quibbling, not them.

Indeed. Insurers will always fight their corner.

Can you imagine going home after a day working at an insurance company. Knowing you just scored some bonus commission by screwing these freshly disabled kids out of a bit of extra health care support. I guess it takes a certain type.

[Ari]

nffcforever said:

Ari said:

Abso-bloody-lutely!

Some of the comments on this thread are astonishing!

And you're agreeing with someone who's on the opposite side of the argument to you.

Yeah, I deleted it. Couldn't quite believe someone was agreeing with him so misread it!

An accident - FFS.

Whoops, accidentally tried to chase down a woman in a Mazda, accidentally swerved round the inside of a car waiting to turn right, accidentally charged headlong into a car coming the other way - hey, we've all done it, easy mistake to make.

Unbeliveable.

[SWoll]

405dogvan said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

^^ The role of the justice system is not "revenge".

Repeated for emphasis

Not suggested it is. But would you say that a couple of years in prison and a 4 year driving ban is 'justice'? I'm not suggesting some of the more nasty stuff on here is appropriate, I just hope his stay isn't a comfortable one and that life is particularly hard for him when he does eventually get out.

[MrBarry123]

Ari said:

You have read the story and watched the video haven't you?

No one died...

Goodness.

What the fk went on there in my brain?! Not sure what happened given I had read the story.

Doh!

The principle of my point still remains though.