In the news - Jaguar Land Rover Manager - Road Rage Crash

In the news - Jaguar Land Rover Manager - Road Rage Crash

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carlove

7,538 posts

166 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Why not focus on the horrific story rather than getting your knickers in a twist about a comment that has been blown way out of proportion? I can't agree with the comment, but why not let it go?

The driver is a bellend, he could have been driving a Focus, he would have still ruined the lives of two young girls. What I can say is he will hopefully go to prison for a very long time, and hopefully never be allowed to drive again once released.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Reports say he pleaded guilty to four counts of causing serious injury by dangerous driving. The maximum sentence is 5 years for this offence.

Shocking driving and consequences that deserves a strong sentence.





fttm

3,664 posts

134 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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If there is any justice , maybe his new and as yet unknown best friend and room mate will rip him a new one on a frequent basis during his few months in detention .

nffcforever

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793 posts

190 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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saaby93 said:
TheJimi said:
I've seen aggressive driving from all manner of vehicles on the road. I genuinely couldn't even begin to draw correlations between the type of car driven and the propensity of that type to being driven by aggressive people.
It is possible statistically that a particular type of driver buys a particular type of car
The converse inst true that everyone who buys that type of car is that type of driver

Insurance accident stats are similar and why we've previously discussed relatively high premium for say a 17 year in a Corsa but relatively low in say a Passat.
Of American origin, but...

http://www.popcenter.org/problems/aggressive_drivi...

Research suggests that the single largest group of aggressive American drivers is poorly educated white men under 30 years old who drive high-performance vehicles.13 There is a strong correlation between such young white men and violent crimes, serious traffic offenses, license suspensions, and minor moving violations. These young white men also appear to be the most likely group to engage in more extreme road rage behaviors.14 They may be more prone to have antisocial, hostile personalities (as described in the next section). In general, younger people tend to lack the impulse control gained with age, and men tend toward more aggressive behavior than women.

Because members of this group so often break traffic laws, they will be disproportionately represented in any traffic enforcement effort. Accordingly, police officers will contact the most dangerous drivers by enforcing the entire range of moving violations.15

While young white men are the largest single group of aggressive drivers, there is no single definitive profile of aggressive-driving perpetrators.16 Otherwise law-abiding citizens commit many aggressive driving acts.17

Personality or Individual Traits

There appear to be two primary personality types prone to becoming aggressive behind the wheel. One is an antisocial, hostile personality; the other, a competitive one.18 Antisocial drivers are associated with the young white male group. There is significant overlap between the factors associated with antisocial driving and those associated with criminal behavior.19 These include:

impulsiveness,
sensation-seeking,
unrealistic thinking (underestimating risks and overrating abilities to handle problems),
poor problem-solving skills,
egocentricity (lacking concern for others' well-being), and
values (caring only about oneself).20
This antisocial group of drivers is prone to hostile aggression in and out of their vehicles. Antisocial drivers have high rates of accidents and violations and are many times more likely than the general driving population to have criminal histories.21

Retaliation and revenge are common motives for antisocial drivers who feel disrespected, slighted, infringed-upon, or endangered. This same motive is common in domestic violence, gang violence, theft, and arson.22 Seemingly trivial events such as perceived insults to drivers' self-image or safety most often provoke driving anger. These triggering events tap into a deep well of anger already present in the antisocial driver.

Triggering incidents can include frustrations such as slow, hesitant, or distracted drivers; scares such as near-collisions; offensive behaviors such as rude gestures; and territorial encroachments such as competing for a parking space or failure to yield.23 These acts are not intrinsically aggression-inducing; it is the way a person interprets them and how the person reacts to that interpretation that causes the acts to trigger aggression.24

The second group of aggressive drivers appears prone to socially approved forms of aggression such as competition, which can easily be translated into aggressive driving behaviors. Competitive drivers dislike being passed, enjoy the thrill of speeding, and lack the internal controls to override their competitiveness on the road. Research has shown that both the antisocial and the competitive drivers have significantly more accidents and traffic violations than the general driving public.25

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

172 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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As a professional driver the knob in the discovery deserves the absolute maximum,horrific driving.

zygalski

7,759 posts

144 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Wonder if he was a Ph'er? Seems the Alpha sort tbh. frown

nffcforever

Original Poster:

793 posts

190 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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swerni said:
Sad story, OP is a bell end with a rather large chip.
Hello. As you've decided to come in here and call a complete stranger a bell end would you care to set out which part(s) of my opinion you don't agree with, and why?

conkerman

3,298 posts

134 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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This douchebag should be given an epidural/spinal block for a month to see what the effects of his actions actually are. Or the 'head on a stick' treatment from Wolf creek.

After meeting 'Mr Big' in the showers natch.

Sump

5,484 posts

166 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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nffcforever said:
swerni said:
Sad story, OP is a bell end with a rather large chip.
Hello. As you've decided to come in here and call a complete stranger a bell end would you care to set out which part(s) of my opinion you don't agree with, and why?
I'm amazed you turned such a straightforward thread into something completely retarded by your own doing.

Countdown

39,688 posts

195 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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fking hell. At least 4 lives ruined by an arrogant tt. frown

Does anybody know if there's a "JustGiving" type site for the girls?

nffcforever

Original Poster:

793 posts

190 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Sump said:
I'm amazed you turned such a straightforward thread into something completely retarded by your own doing.
Another meaningful contribution. I'd argue it's those throwing their bell ends about and making vacuous comments that are derailing any discussion.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

172 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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nffcforever said:
Sump said:
I'm amazed you turned such a straightforward thread into something completely retarded by your own doing.
Another meaningful contribution. I'd argue it's those throwing their bell ends about and making vacuous comments that are derailing any discussion.
Seriously the only person de-railing the thread is you, nobody sane would disagree that the driver was a complete knob and deserves everything that is coming to him, unfortunately you are trying to turn the thread into some personal crusade that all 4x4 drivers are wkers, which is not the case.

nffcforever

Original Poster:

793 posts

190 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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swerni said:
What is a very sad story has been used to highlight your own petty and childish agenda.

sad.
Or to highlight, to a group of people with an interest in cars and driving, the possible consequences of letting your temper get the better of you. And, to spark a perfectly valid discussion about whether, or not, aggressive driving is more prevalent amongst drivers of certain types of vehicles. Whether the type of car can lead to more aggressive behaviour, or whether particular personality types possibly gravitate to certain types of vehicle.

It's just an opinion. There really is no need to be so worked up.

Edited by nffcforever on Friday 27th May 07:59

nffcforever

Original Poster:

793 posts

190 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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berlintaxi said:
Seriously the only person de-railing the thread is you, nobody sane would disagree that the driver was a complete knob and deserves everything that is coming to him, unfortunately you are trying to turn the thread into some personal crusade that all 4x4 drivers are wkers, which is not the case.
So I'm not supposed to respond when someone's saunters in and calls me a bell end for having an opinion they don't like?

I've also spelt out very, very clearly that I'm not singling out 4x4s. If you have poor reading comprehension then that is unfotunate.

My 4th post concluded: "Anyway, that is all very inconsequential in the scheme of things. As mentioned above, hopefully this sorry episode will make at least one silly little boy think twice before losing his cool and having a temper tantrum at the wheel."

Unfortunately, as someone else said, a number of you can't help but get your knickers in a twist.

Let this be the end.

Edited by nffcforever on Friday 27th May 07:51

chryslerben

1,168 posts

158 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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From experience with managers from JLR I'd expect nothing less than the way this creatures behaved, some (not all) are horrid bullying spunk trumpets.

Sadly this horrid bullying spunk trumpet has destroyed the lives of a family and irreversably changed the lives of those two young girls forever.

Sargeant Orange

2,687 posts

146 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Typical of the knob jockey 4x4 drivers I see around everyday, forcing their way into gaps that don't exist. What a sad outcome, hope he gets sufficient punishment

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Sargeant Orange said:
Typical of the knob jockey 4x4 drivers I see around everyday, forcing their way into gaps that don't exist. What a sad outcome, hope he gets sufficient punishment
You haven't read this thread, have you?

Jockman

17,912 posts

159 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Sentencing Friday....I assume today?

nffcforever

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793 posts

190 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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REALIST123 said:
You haven't read this thread, have you?
Or maybe just possibly he/she does experience this and has prepared him/herself for being called a bell end.

Edited by nffcforever on Friday 27th May 08:17

Mafffew

2,149 posts

110 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Driver is a knob, should be shot etc.


Plenty of knobbers in plenty of different cars. The stereotype of flash car/tt driver is nonsense created by morons and those with an inferiority complex. All good fun when said in jest/banter though.