Did buying a faster car spoil your classic/weekend car?
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I have a well kept '87 AW11 MR2 in the garage which I enjoy on sunny days. I wouldn't get rid of it because I agree with the general consensus at the moment that simple, lightweight, direct cars are dying out and if I sell it now I'll probably never get anything quite like it again. Its 0-60 in 8 or so seconds feels fast enough for my purposes.
If I buy a Z4c, will it spoil the MR2 by making it feel very slow?
Have you done anything similar? What were the cars? Did it spoil the slower car?
If I buy a Z4c, will it spoil the MR2 by making it feel very slow?
Have you done anything similar? What were the cars? Did it spoil the slower car?
My own experience of having one sportscar and buying a new one as well was simply that the old one never got used - so sold it after a few months.
Fundamentally the question becomes, "If you own a good car, why would you want to leave it at home and drive a less good car?".
The important thing IMO is to make sure you own and use a good car. If a Z4 doesn't really tick that box, buy something else.
Fundamentally the question becomes, "If you own a good car, why would you want to leave it at home and drive a less good car?".
The important thing IMO is to make sure you own and use a good car. If a Z4 doesn't really tick that box, buy something else.
I wouldn't have thought so tbh. I have a very fast kit car/toy, a 7.5-to-60 tintop for daily use, an mgb and the missus has just got an MX5 (yaay)
I enjoy driving them all. The MGB is glacial compared to the kit, and the tintop for that matter, with a s
t gearchange and crappy pedal layout, but is still a hoot to drive, just different. I enjoy the MX5 and tintop despite them both being far slower than the kit. The more competent and insulating modern cars become, the more fun an older one with quirks seems to be.
I enjoy driving them all. The MGB is glacial compared to the kit, and the tintop for that matter, with a s
t gearchange and crappy pedal layout, but is still a hoot to drive, just different. I enjoy the MX5 and tintop despite them both being far slower than the kit. The more competent and insulating modern cars become, the more fun an older one with quirks seems to be.It depends how you drive and feel about it, you're much more likely to get 100% out of the MR2 than you are the Z4, especially if it's high powered. However if you care more about going fast then the MR2 may feel a bit inadequate after the Z4.
The answer, engine swap the MR2 :P (It's not a serious suggestion)
The answer, engine swap the MR2 :P (It's not a serious suggestion)
Sorry Ozzie, don't agree with you there.
I like the 1st world problem of choice.
I love all of my cars for different reasons and enjoy driving them all because if the differences.
On that point. Because I work away for periods ca. 5 weeks, it gives me time to consider which one I miss the most.
Normally I would be pining for my Tuscan but this trip it's different as I just bought a Cerbera.
To the OP, if you enjoy the particular driving characteristics of your MR2, why would that change?
I like the 1st world problem of choice.
I love all of my cars for different reasons and enjoy driving them all because if the differences.
On that point. Because I work away for periods ca. 5 weeks, it gives me time to consider which one I miss the most.
Normally I would be pining for my Tuscan but this trip it's different as I just bought a Cerbera.
To the OP, if you enjoy the particular driving characteristics of your MR2, why would that change?
Bennet said:
I have a well kept '87 AW11 MR2 in the garage which I enjoy on sunny days. I wouldn't get rid of it because I agree with the general consensus at the moment that simple, lightweight, direct cars are dying out and if I sell it now I'll probably never get anything quite like it again. Its 0-60 in 8 or so seconds feels fast enough for my purposes.
If I buy a Z4c, will it spoil the MR2 by making it feel very slow?
Have you done anything similar? What were the cars? Did it spoil the slower car?
To an extent yes it will. There will be a certain novelty factor with the new car, and this will take time to wear off.If I buy a Z4c, will it spoil the MR2 by making it feel very slow?
Have you done anything similar? What were the cars? Did it spoil the slower car?
And then it's little things, such as, if your weekend car is tucked away, it's effort to get it out. And sometimes it'll be easier to just say sod it and take the other car instead.
On the flip side, cars that provide different kinds of thrills will always have an appeal. And the MR2 should offer a different thrill to the Z4C, although both cars are offering the fun 2 seater sports car thrill.
I find I use my TR7 far less than I should or than I'd like. It's not the speed, it's the fact I other interesting things to drive and the TR is the most effort to get out, take cover off, etc.
Bennet said:
I have a well kept '87 AW11 MR2 in the garage which I enjoy on sunny days. I wouldn't get rid of it because I agree with the general consensus at the moment that simple, lightweight, direct cars are dying out and if I sell it now I'll probably never get anything quite like it again. Its 0-60 in 8 or so seconds feels fast enough for my purposes.
If I buy a Z4c, will it spoil the MR2 by making it feel very slow?
Have you done anything similar? What were the cars? Did it spoil the slower car?
You should see what Diesel Meister on here has done with his.....sort of negates the need for a Z4cIf I buy a Z4c, will it spoil the MR2 by making it feel very slow?
Have you done anything similar? What were the cars? Did it spoil the slower car?
http://www.pistonheads.com/members/showcar.asp?car...
I think his car looks immense
My old classic car is marginally the fastest car I have ....even though experts on here say it's slower than a new 320d
The MR2 will always feel special to drive regardless of performance I reckon. It's just the old car feel that you can't replicate.
Saying that if you get a nicer daily driver you probably will use it less.
I'm in the same boat, got a 330 as the everyday car, although as I cycle to work it does 3-4K a year maximum, and my Escort probably did about 500 miles last year. Really tempted to get rid of them both and replace with a Z4C or an M3 but can't bring myself to sell the Escort at the moment.
Saying that if you get a nicer daily driver you probably will use it less.
I'm in the same boat, got a 330 as the everyday car, although as I cycle to work it does 3-4K a year maximum, and my Escort probably did about 500 miles last year. Really tempted to get rid of them both and replace with a Z4C or an M3 but can't bring myself to sell the Escort at the moment.
My daily is a ford van and as its a free company one I cant really replace it.
I think if you have a bike licence and have a reasonably powerful bike any car within reason wont give you the exiliration of the bike.
However having moved from company cars ( mostly stodgy estates) to vans for tax and praticallity reasons I'd say I enjoy my weekend car more
I think if you have a bike licence and have a reasonably powerful bike any car within reason wont give you the exiliration of the bike.
However having moved from company cars ( mostly stodgy estates) to vans for tax and praticallity reasons I'd say I enjoy my weekend car more
Ozzie Osmond said:
Fundamentally the question becomes, "If you own a good car, why would you want to leave it at home and drive a less good car?".
Because the less good car is inferior in pretty much every regard, but is massively more fun and I have to work to drive it, rather than just point it down the road.But we all know this.
Being faster is one element so the real question is "is the weekend car special enough to warrant keeping alongside a more modern 'interesting' car?".
My M3 is relatively slow by modern standards but it still provides a massive level of enjoyment and driving pleasure. I have a faster car but it hasn't detracted from the M3 because it is special in its own way.
I think you need to try and evaluate how special the MR2 is and how it makes you feel. This will depend on your reference point and past/future intended purchases, too.
My M3 is relatively slow by modern standards but it still provides a massive level of enjoyment and driving pleasure. I have a faster car but it hasn't detracted from the M3 because it is special in its own way.
I think you need to try and evaluate how special the MR2 is and how it makes you feel. This will depend on your reference point and past/future intended purchases, too.
so called said:
Sorry Ozzie, don't agree with you there.
To the OP, if you enjoy the particular driving characteristics of your MR2, why would that change?
Errm, yes, it seems that perhaps you do! To the OP, if you enjoy the particular driving characteristics of your MR2, why would that change?
As regards owning a lot of different cars I guess that's all a question of lifestyle. It's not much fun commuting on the M25 in a Caterham and it's not much fun taking a big exec saloon out on the twisties. Happily for some of us, life and car come together in a better fit. Not least because in my experience "more cars" means "more hassle" with insurance, tax, MOT, tyres, servicing etc.
I like to have a car which I really enjoy driving all the time. Lucky I guess. I can't be bothered with a "summer weekends car" or "trackday special" which just sits in the garage most of the time.
My daily is a Lexus ISF, my weekend/toy/sunny day/track car is a Honda S2000. Both are great fun to drive, but having either one of them alone would mean tiring of that car pretty quickly. I'm even working on getting a 2CV as another toy! (Any arguments to put forward to a wife who thinks having another car on the drive would make the place look like a garage forecourt would be gratefully received....)
My daily driver is without doubt the faster car, but that doesn't make it any more or less 'fun'. Nothing has been spoilt and I've long ago realised that there's a lot more to appreciation of a car than it's 0-60 time and top speed! It's all about what you get from the experience of driving a particular machine.
My daily driver is without doubt the faster car, but that doesn't make it any more or less 'fun'. Nothing has been spoilt and I've long ago realised that there's a lot more to appreciation of a car than it's 0-60 time and top speed! It's all about what you get from the experience of driving a particular machine.
I doubt having a faster car would spoil the experience of a weekend/classic. Maybe if your newer faster car was raw but a normal fast modern car usually feels slower than it actually is with all the insulation from the outside world, safety gubbins and technology. I don't own a weekend car but going back to the lighter more simple cars of yersteryear, going full pelt in my old Sukuzi Swift probably felt quicker than flooring my M135i. In 0-60 terms, it's nowhere near but it sure felt it.
Ozzie Osmond said:
mrfunex said:
there's a lot more to appreciation of a car than it's 0-60 time and top speed! It's all about what you get from the experience of driving a particular machine.
^^^ Yes, very much this.Plus it's a great film
https://youtu.be/MjKN0Ummc6M
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