RE: New Nissan GT-R NISMO

RE: New Nissan GT-R NISMO

Friday 27th May 2016

New Nissan GT-R NISMO

MY17 updates make it to the flagship GT-R, but there's no additional power



You know it's a modest facelift of a car when the press release's second paragraph mentions a "significantly reinforced hood". Still, the GT-R NISMO is a fairly extraordinary car in the first instance, so Nissan can probably be excused a subtle update.

Which way to the Nordschleife?
Which way to the Nordschleife?
Following the MY17 refresh of the standard GT-R, the NISMO also incorporates a new bumper, a revised grille that improves cooling and tweaks to the carbon canards at the front. As we said, it's pretty modest. The interior also gets a facelift, with fewer buttons and new displays like the regular GT-R. The NISMO does uniquely receive a pair of Recaro carbon seats with Alcantara inserts.

As is often the way with GT-R revisions though, it's the changes underneath that are more significant. Building on the stiffer body of the standard car, this NISMO has had its dampers, springs and stabilisers further tweaked to improve handling. In addition to added downforce, Nissan claims that slalom times and cornering performance for the GT-R NISMO are improved by nearly two per cent over the previous car. Two per cent (!). There is also talk of "better overall balance" for this model, said to create a car "that can be enjoyed on a winding mountain road as on the local race circuit."

Should make quite the early Christmas present
Should make quite the early Christmas present
Power and torque are identical for this NISMO, boasting the same 600hp and 480lb ft as before. The six-speed dual-clutch automatic is carried over unchanged as well. Again though, with a 0-62mph time of less than three seconds and a top speed in excess of 190mph, you could argue it's sufficiently well endowed already...

Nissan UK hasn't yet announced a price for the new NISMO, but customers will be able to order their cars from next week and collect their car just before Christmas. If you can't wait that long - and can forego that two per cent improvement in slalom speed - then it seems £140K is the going rate for the old R35 GT-R NISMO. If you like GT-Rs, you won't be disappointed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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WCZ

Original Poster:

10,492 posts

193 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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i'm not surprised they've not made too many changes, IIRC there's quite a few owners still waiting to take delivery of the previous one?

big_rob_sydney

3,394 posts

193 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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I don't normally comment along these lines, as I am a huge GTR fan, but I think getting on to this kind of money is starting to be a bit much.

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

187 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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big_rob_sydney said:
I don't normally comment along these lines, as I am a huge GTR fan, but I think getting on to this kind of money is starting to be a bit much.
I totally agree, however - people are buying it.

I don't think there's any suggestion that these Nismo models aren't sold at a much higher margin, but if it's all money which goes into development of another GTR for the future then why not? If they didn't create it then the income wouldn't be generated from its' sale. It's not like they don't cater for the lower budget, when the original R35 GTR came about it was around £55k, with the current-gen at £78,000. To get equal performance from a 911 requires you buy a Turbo S, which is almost 1.5x the cost!

And Porsche aren't affraid to make ltd edition models at even more ludicrous price-points with huge profit margins, are they?!

GranCab

2,902 posts

145 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Don't forget when the R35 was launched here in 2009 our dear Chancellor had reduced V.A.T. down to 15%

Erudite geezer

576 posts

120 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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140,000 Great British pounds for a Nissan yikes

No thanking you, Sir.

tjlees

1,382 posts

236 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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GTR is a bargain at £50-60k, not bad at £80k but £140k+ for a Datsun yikes

You could get a very good fun road car and a real track weapon for that price.

Anyway the previous version is selling so supply and demand and all that biggrin

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

169 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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£140k for a Datsun OMG

CRAZY

threespires

4,289 posts

210 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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It's faster than a DKW & has four seats.
It's rarer than the offering from Adolf's SUV manufacturer.
It's half the price of a fancy Fiat.
My friend Mr G. has just sold his two seater from an Italian tractor maker & bought one. He's delighted with it and its faster round his race track.

aarondbs

843 posts

145 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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Erudite geezer said:
140,000 Great British pounds for a Nissan yikes

No thanking you, Sir.
Silly comment!! What on earth has the badge got to do with anything!? Unless your one if those who likes their labels showing I can't really see what point you make!

rb5er

11,657 posts

171 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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aarondbs said:
Erudite geezer said:
140,000 Great British pounds for a Nissan yikes

No thanking you, Sir.
Silly comment!! What on earth has the badge got to do with anything!? Unless your one if those who likes their labels showing I can't really see what point you make!
Indeed, probably the same sort of person that thinks the LFA should be 20grand

Nedzilla

2,439 posts

173 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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Erudite geezer said:
140,000 Great British pounds for a Nissan yikes

No thanking you, Sir.
f

I suppose you will say the same about the new ford GT then......?

tjlees

1,382 posts

236 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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threespires said:
It's faster than a DKW & has four seats.
It's rarer than the offering from Adolf's SUV manufacturer.
It's half the price of a fancy Fiat.
My friend Mr G. has just sold his two seater from an Italian tractor maker & bought one. He's delighted with it and its faster round his race track.
Iirc Porsche GT3 RS was (is) a similar price new (and probably a better investment if you can get one!).The selling point for me for a GTR is good value and I'll overlook the 1.7t weight, PS3 interior and looks that only your mother would love.

It's no longer a bargain, and most people don't just buy for ultimate performance at this price bracket - looks, sound, quality and maybe ultimate handling (feedback and feel) count.

However its in extreme demand so some people are happy to buy .... But I'll stick to the 'Lichfield' GTR bargain thank you.

Erich Stahler

2,878 posts

269 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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Nedzilla said:
Erudite geezer said:
140,000 Great British pounds for a Nissan yikes

No thanking you, Sir.
f

I suppose you will say the same about the new ford GT then......?
Actually interesting point about badge snobbery, I actually think the Nissan, nee Datsun, badge is pretty cool!
Having no pretentions, they make some pretty mundane low end cars yet have a 20 odd year track record in motorsport.

Coolbanana

4,382 posts

199 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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I can accept the £140 000 price tag on this; Nissan has worked hard to establish the GT-R as a performance icon and have succeeded.

While I prefer Porsche and may never want to own one of these, I totally understand their appeal and appreciate the immense tech effort on display. These are great cars with an earned great rep!

My Dad used to own a Datsun 280z when I was a kid, loved that car! The GT-R's are on a whole new level.

leonintegra36

74 posts

103 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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Too many similar looking Gtr's for 100k less to evoke any discernable excitement.

k-ink

9,070 posts

178 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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I'd rather buy this Nissan at £140k than the M3 30 Jahre for £82k. At least this is an improvement over the standard car and not just some door sill badges. Not that I am in the market for spending £140k.

tjlees

1,382 posts

236 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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Litchfield GTR at the ring ... Seriously more bangs for your buck

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4fz_4F0TFMM

.. And modified, the sound is *alot* more in keeping with this type of car

PZR

627 posts

184 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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Erich Stahler said:
Nedzilla said:
Erudite geezer said:
140,000 Great British pounds for a Nissan yikes

No thanking you, Sir.
f

I suppose you will say the same about the new ford GT then......?
Actually interesting point about badge snobbery, I actually think the Nissan, nee Datsun, badge is pretty cool!
Having no pretentions, they make some pretty mundane low end cars yet have a 20 odd year track record in motorsport.
Nissan have 80+ years of history in motorsport, actually.

tjlees

1,382 posts

236 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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PZR said:
Nissan have 80+ years of history in motorsport, actually.
With a 20+ year gap for obvious reasons and first 10 in Japan only.

I suspect referring to GTR only for Motorsport, though it began as a skyline ... But who cares, it's a giant slayer in it £50+k form.

PZR

627 posts

184 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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tjlees said:
PZR said:
Nissan have 80+ years of history in motorsport, actually.
With a 20+ year gap for obvious reasons and first 10 in Japan only.

I suspect referring to GTR only for Motorsport, though it began as a skyline ...
We can use all sorts of caveats, but the history and sporting pedigree of the company is there.

The GT-R emblem itself has motorsport history going back to 1969, created as a homologation special quite far removed from its more sedate Skyline-badged siblings. Nissan may have divorced the R35 and what comes next from the Skyline name, but by keeping and using the GT-R emblem the R35 has a direct link back to everything that emblem represents within Nissan, both historically and philosophically.