Driving Instructor Using A Golf R!!!

Driving Instructor Using A Golf R!!!

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BlindandLost

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188 posts

150 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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I've seen a driving instructor near me giving lessons in a Golf R! I thought it must be a diesel/1.4 TSI with an R badge stuck on, but it's got the chrome wing mirrors, 4 exhausts and R seats (I stopped right next to it and could see the 'R' logo)...

You've got to be very trusting of your students to teach them to drive in a 300HP car haven't you?

HayesDC2

285 posts

132 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Not a bad plan, most people would choose to drive that rather than a corsa given the choice

Daston

6,075 posts

203 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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I imagine it to be a double edged sword, on one hand you will probably get a load more youngsters wanting to learn to drive with you because of the car, on the other hand you have higher running costs and potential to have higher repair bills.

Also does the R come with a manual box? If not would you not be limiting yourself to students who only want an auto licence?

Stu-nph26

1,984 posts

105 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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BlindandLost said:
I've seen a driving instructor near me giving lessons in a Golf R! I thought it must be a diesel/1.4 TSI with an R badge stuck on, but it's got the chrome wing mirrors, 4 exhausts and R seats (I stopped right next to it and could see the 'R' logo)...

You've got to be very trusting of your students to teach them to drive in a 300HP car haven't you?
Great idea I wonder how much his insurance is.

Luke.

10,991 posts

250 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Daston said:
Also does the R come with a manual box? If not would you not be limiting yourself to students who only want an auto licence?
It does.

BlindandLost

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188 posts

150 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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HayesDC2 said:
Not a bad plan, most people would choose to drive that rather than a corsa given the choice
Definitely! Although I imagine it's a lot less scary when a student 'lets it get away from them' in a Corsa... tongue out I learnt to drive in 1995 in the slowest 1.2 Corsa imaginable i.e. an auto. The one thing you could guarantee is that if you did accidentally stamp on the accelerator, all you'd get is more noise.

CarAbuser

695 posts

124 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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If he's picked it up on one of those 99p per month lease deals then it's perfect.

Running costs are low because of the cheap lease and you get more customers because it appeals to budding boy racers.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

211 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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In Switzerland this is absolutely normal, I still don't understand why though. The most common driving school cars (in Zürich at least) seem to be the Golf R, Golf GTi, BMW 135i and Audi S3. Maybe it helps them justify the prices....

BlindandLost

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188 posts

150 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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CarAbuser said:
If he's picked it up on one of those 99p per month lease deals then it's perfect.

Running costs are low because of the cheap lease and you get more customers because it appeals to budding boy racers.
Didn't think of that. If that's what it is, then it's a great idea!

chr15b

3,467 posts

190 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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BlindandLost said:
CarAbuser said:
If he's picked it up on one of those 99p per month lease deals then it's perfect.

Running costs are low because of the cheap lease and you get more customers because it appeals to budding boy racers.
Didn't think of that. If that's what it is, then it's a great idea!
Leases are only cheap on low mileage though, cant see 6k being much use for an instructor

HustleRussell

24,696 posts

160 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Gah 'performance' cars these days are child proof, fool proof, fail safe, self-driving, driver assisting, safety netted nonsense.

ZHD

5 posts

189 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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chr15b said:
Leases are only cheap on low mileage though, cant see 6k being much use for an instructor
As I understand it the VW excess mileage is only 7.2p. What's the average speed on a one-hour (£25?) lesson with manoeuvres and all... 15mph at most? Plus an extra litre or two of fuel*. Fairly irrelevant considering the extra interest.

Still, I think someone's done some man maths to choose that to teach in over a diesel Vauxhall Corsa laugh

*I realise insurance is another issue but how much harm can a student do when the instructor has dual controls?

Valgar

850 posts

135 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Awful idea, I'm choosing a teaching car right now, your biggest expense would be fuel, a colleague who drives a 1.6 petrol clio is spending £150 a week, to waste fuel on what is essentially, showing off is just a waste. Most instructors I know have a work car and then a nice car.

ZHD said:
As I understand it the VW excess mileage is only 7.2p. What's the average speed on a one-hour (£25?) lesson with manoeuvres and all... 15mph at most? Plus an extra litre or two of fuel*. Fairly irrelevant considering the extra interest.

Still, I think someone's done some man maths to choose that to teach in over a diesel Vauxhall Corsa laugh

*I realise insurance is another issue but how much harm can a student do when the instructor has dual controls?
A busy instructor will be doing 30,000 a year, a very busy one will be knocking on near 40,000

AyBee

10,533 posts

202 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Valgar said:
Awful idea, I'm choosing a teaching car right now, your biggest expense would be fuel, a colleague who drives a 1.6 petrol clio is spending £150 a week, to waste fuel on what is essentially, showing off is just a waste. Most instructors I know have a work car and then a nice car.

ZHD said:
As I understand it the VW excess mileage is only 7.2p. What's the average speed on a one-hour (£25?) lesson with manoeuvres and all... 15mph at most? Plus an extra litre or two of fuel*. Fairly irrelevant considering the extra interest.

Still, I think someone's done some man maths to choose that to teach in over a diesel Vauxhall Corsa laugh

*I realise insurance is another issue but how much harm can a student do when the instructor has dual controls?
A busy instructor will be doing 30,000 a year, a very busy one will be knocking on near 40,000
But he may not be doing it full time...or maybe he has 2 laugh

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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I doubt insurance will be that much more given the car is still under the control of an instructor, it's not that more more risk is it?

Maybe the instructor has another car as well rather than use the golf all the time, or only works a few days a week, hot golf to blat around in thats a tax write off (it's promotional mr taxman sir) mmm that'll do nicely;)

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Personally I would rather students learned in the biggest barge the instructor can lay his hands on... thus when the student buy's their first car (inevitably a tiny ecobox), they will be better drivers as a result.

iphonedyou

9,253 posts

157 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Fuel would be a killer! Would far outweigh any cheap lease deal... not that an instructor could avail of that anyway, as he'd be using the car purely for business which the terms almost certainly preclude (in the same way as they preclude PSV use, I believe).

My '16 Scirocco R is averaging 20.6mpg across 500 miles, stop / start traffic and short commutes.

Ste1987

1,798 posts

106 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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While on the subject of an unusual instructor's car, I saw a Leaf instructor car the other day, don't those things only have 100 mile range and take 12 hours to charge?

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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"Clever" way of getting business i suppose. I've used inverted commas there as for someone who has a genuine love for cars i just die inside knowing there's a Golf R out there having its alloys kerbed to hell, paint chipped, wing-mirrors smacked willy-nilly. Saying that i assume that's how some of these lease cars get treated no doubt.

Over the road from my dad's place there's a driving instructor with a black diesel Scriocco. I genuinely couldn't think of a worse modern car to learn in after having one myself for 3 years (petrol however). Awful visibility, blind-spot hell, wide and hard to judge.

I also read an article the other day about a driving instructor with a brand new MK7 Golf GTI PP with the upgraded 19" wheels (ouch). He went on to say that was his daily car aswell as his work car and weekend blast car all in one. It does kinda make sense i suppose as that's what the GTI was intended as an all-purpose car.

Again, i can see how it would attract people to go with them. I'm not sure it's something i'd bother with personally as either the student or the teacher.


danrst171

103 posts

100 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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I learnt in the 150bhp Fiesta ST.

Not quite the same league as a Golf R but at the time, as a learner driver, it was very nice...especially compared to the other options!