RE: BMW M3 30 Jahre Edition

RE: BMW M3 30 Jahre Edition

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MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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I'm not denying that the M3 is an upgraded 3 Series however you guys need glasses (or a stronger prescription) if you think they look similar on the road.

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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"30 Jahre Edition" because the marketing department didn't approve of "BMW M3 500 Idiots Edition"

cerb4.5lee

30,534 posts

180 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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MrBarry123 said:
I'm not denying that the M3 is an upgraded 3 Series however you guys need glasses (or a stronger prescription) if you think they look similar on the road.
I think the current M3 is a little more easy to spot because the front end does look quite aggressive, the E92 M3 really does just blend in though and that's very hard to distinguish against a E92 320d out on the road to me.



Edited by cerb4.5lee on Sunday 29th May 14:13

Cheib

23,240 posts

175 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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It's only 12 or 13 year years since the considerably more special E46 CSL was a sales flop at £60k ( admittedly a lot more made) .

World's changed quite a lot....




Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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Cheib said:
It's only 12 or 13 year years since the considerably more special E46 CSL was a sales flop at £60k ( admittedly a lot more made) .

World's changed quite a lot....
And only 5 years since the M3 GTS a - only a handful or two cars offered at £115k? Not a sales success afaik and not sure about the M4 GTS

Itsallicanafford

2,765 posts

159 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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daemon said:
+1

Ultimately its an upgraded 3 series - and purposely so, so that 320d M Sport owners can share the affiliation to the real drivers cars.

I personally dont think i'd want to spend £60K on an m3, bearing in mind you could buy some very good "bespoke" cars for that money.
Like an M3 CSL

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Cheib said:
It's only 12 or 13 year years since the considerably more special E46 CSL was a sales flop at £60k ( admittedly a lot more made) .

World's changed quite a lot....
Many people stopped owning cars and started renting them instead.

aeropilot

34,568 posts

227 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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'kin hell eek

I bet even Bentley/RR/Bugatti/Zonda don't charge 23k for a set of sill badges......



The Ultimate Piss Taking Machine..... biglaugh

Artey

757 posts

106 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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aeropilot said:
'kin hell eek

I bet even Bentley/RR/Bugatti/Zonda don't charge 23k for a set of sill badges......



The Ultimate Piss Taking Machine..... biglaugh
They've also added quite a lot of kit as standard, which the PH article doesn't mention but it kind of justifies the price hike.

E65Ross

35,068 posts

212 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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aeropilot said:
'kin hell eek

I bet even Bentley/RR/Bugatti/Zonda don't charge 23k for a set of sill badges......



The Ultimate Piss Taking Machine..... biglaugh
The competition pack, carbon brakes etc add to the price which you've failed to mention?

aeropilot

34,568 posts

227 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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E65Ross said:
aeropilot said:
'kin hell eek

I bet even Bentley/RR/Bugatti/Zonda don't charge 23k for a set of sill badges......



The Ultimate Piss Taking Machine..... biglaugh
The competition pack, carbon brakes etc add to the price which you've failed to mention?
Well no actually. That's exactly my point, they added all that extra stuff whether you want it or not to justify the extra, it's not 'included' as they just ticked the option price for you regardless....and chucked in a few badges to make you think you're getting more than you are.
Now, if they had chucked in all the extra kit as standard, rather than charge you for it, added the badges AND only charged say a few k's over the CP, then, maybe......it wouldn't be a piss take.
As it is, it's still clever marketing bullst, they'll sell 'em all, but it's still a piss take IMHO.
Just more fool the people that can't see through it.

Artey

757 posts

106 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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aeropilot said:
Now, if they had chucked in all the extra kit as standard, rather than charge you for it, added the badges AND only charged say a few k's over the CP, then, maybe......it wouldn't be a piss take.
As much as I despise what BMW do nowadays, what you suggest makes no sense at all.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Had lots of lovely bank holiday drinks but here goes!

Lot's of too and throw comments as usual, all interesting as usual. Does it look different enough? Can it justify it's price? Personally for me these two would be irrelevant as if I really wanted one I wouldn't need either of these facet's to be fulfilled to justify having one and I certainly wouldn't use either of these facet's to justify the purchase to others either.

The big one for me I suppose is whether or not it is special enough especially from a technical point of view and for me on the face of it I would say probably not, regardless of it's price point. Something a lot closer or even moving the game on from the CRT would be my idea of a special M3 and would be a far more fitting tribute to the excellence that has proceeded it. This is leaning more towards a parts bin special with plaque and limited numbers than a truly bespoke, lets push what we can achieve item which for me is a bit of a missed opportunity and shame because of it.

It'll still be a fairly stonking car of course and no ones opinions will stop them selling but it'll be a shame that if in 5-10 years time we aren't looking back on this special edition as being just that, something very special. Even if the CSL was a bit misunderstood and unappreciated in the beginning at least it has proven itself to be able to carry on the legacy set by it predecessors. Will this?

Ali_T

3,379 posts

257 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Has anyone mentioned how ugly the wheels are? Those are some hideously ugly wheels!

breadvan

1,998 posts

168 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Case in point.....

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Price is still crazy, but maybe not that much after all?

cerb4.5lee

30,534 posts

180 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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Ali_T said:
Has anyone mentioned how ugly the wheels are? Those are some hideously ugly wheels!
They do seem to be very marmite and I've read so many different opinions for and against, I actually think they look well to be fair but many like you can't stand them.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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So the advantage of this model is you get a whole load of kit for more than you would pay on a standard M3, even if you didnt want some of it. Plus you dont get to pick the colour.

Oh and the tatty kickplate stuff. cant forget that.

Patrick Bateman

12,177 posts

174 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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MrBarry123 said:
I'm not denying that the M3 is an upgraded 3 Series however you guys need glasses (or a stronger prescription) if you think they look similar on the road.
Similar? Similar is exactly what they are.

E65Ross

35,068 posts

212 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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RobDickinson said:
So the advantage of this model is you get a whole load of kit for more than you would pay on a standard M3, even if you didnt want some of it. Plus you dont get to pick the colour.

Oh and the tatty kickplate stuff. cant forget that.
Just about the same as any other special edition from Audi, Mercedes, Porsche, Aston Martin, etc etc then!

It'll probably hold its value a little better than the standard car, mind.

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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"£140k for a Nissan?"

That's what the PH community said about the Nismo GT-R. At least with that car you'd feel a lot less ripped-off than with some fancy ltd edition plaques and a (rather dull) colour!