Gouge to Mini roof - what the bloody hell has caused this?

Gouge to Mini roof - what the bloody hell has caused this?

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405dogvan

5,326 posts

265 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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Alistair1990 said:
Thanks! Sounds like a solid plan of action.

I've been looking at similar cars in the classified and the range of prices is quite surprising. In my favour, mine has features like the JCW body, sat-nav, panoramic sunroof, half leather, auto climate and the £300 AEM kit I mentioned earlier. Hopefully this all gives me some ammunition to get the offer price up a bit. I also now need to get a load of quotes on what it could cost to fix - not too easy when I'm stuck in the office all day.

And to your final point, this was my first car so I'd no no-claims to lose. I suspect my next insurance quote will be interesting...
Another bit of slightly more leftfield advice - you are not obliged to make a claim at this point.

You could choose to simply collect the car and have it repaired yourself. They may levy a fee for collection/storage etc. but you can normally haggle-around that a bit (act soon tho, that cost rises daily)

Upside of this approach is the car remains Category-free/non-Salvage - but obviously you have to be prepared to pay for the repairs so you need a price.

I'm guessing they've taken it to a repairer (to decide it's a write-off) - you are within your rights to ask to see the repairer's report. Official reports use full-price dealer parts and expensive rate labour - you will be able to repair the car for probably 75% of the parts/labour cost (less if you go pattern/salvage or DIY bits) and if you use that bodyshop (if they accept private work) you could even highlight that they've already been paid for inspection/storage and get the price down further.

GL again!

Edited by 405dogvan on Friday 3rd June 01:23

405dogvan

5,326 posts

265 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
Don't forget to tell the truth when an insurer asks you if you've ever been involved in any collision etc...
He can honestly say he's not been in a collision - and that he's not made a claim if he goes that route too...

I honestly have no idea if it's wise - if a 'repair' is £500 then yeah, £1500 then 'erm' and so-on.

Edited by 405dogvan on Friday 3rd June 01:44

Krikkit

26,529 posts

181 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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Unfortunately they've probably declared it a cat. B, in which case you can't retain the salvage under their code of conduct. Canceling the claim might not do you any good if they've already notified the DVLA of the write-off status.

Speak to the claims dept and see what category they've issued, but if it's a B don't expect to be able to retrain our buy any of it back (this has happened to me).

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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405dogvan said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Don't forget to tell the truth when an insurer asks you if you've ever been involved in any collision etc...
He can honestly say he's not been in a collision
Well, apart from the bit where somebody unknown hit his car...

If you're saying "Ah, but he personally wasn't", then that's any collision when the car's parked suddenly deniable.

eybic

9,212 posts

174 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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They don't ask if you've been involved in a collision they ask if you've made any claims.

kev b

2,715 posts

166 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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Someone hit my car head on, the damage was estimated at around £1500 to repair which made it an economic write off, even though it was perfectly drivable.

I spoke to the insurance company, offered to handle the repair myself and they gave me a cheque for £1500 less VAT, the damage was not recorded and I fixed it myself for minimal outlay.

This was after I had turned the tow truck away when they came to collect it, without informing me, they also said at first I could not keep the wreck.

What swung it for me I think was that by giving me the money they were able to avoid paying for storage, hire cars and auction expenses.

Blue Oval84

5,276 posts

161 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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405dogvan said:
He can honestly say he's not been in a collision - and that he's not made a claim if he goes that route too...

I honestly have no idea if it's wise - if a 'repair' is £500 then yeah, £1500 then 'erm' and so-on.

Edited by 405dogvan on Friday 3rd June 01:44
Doesn't get him around the "or suffered any motoring losses..." bit of the question though does it? This is totally declarable and will now be logged firmly in their system, even if OP cancels the claim.

Alistair1990

Original Poster:

135 posts

178 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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I've settled. My insurer valued the car at £5k after some haggling, of which they will give me £3.5k now, leaving me to fix the car myself. If I cannot find an economic way to fix it, then I can call up and arrange for the car to be scrapped, then given the remaining £1.5k of its value. My insurance policy continues as it did, but no doubt I'll need to shop around come renewal in a few months' time.

I'm fairly happy with the outcome and am confident I can fix it for a sensible price.

Now, who knows a good body shop...?

Edited by Alistair1990 on Sunday 5th June 10:55

PAUL500

2,634 posts

246 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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Excellent result for you, and you still have a set of wheels to use in the meantime until you get it repaired.

As I said all along people should not be bullied by the call handlers or the tosh they spout. Well done you.

I would buy that car from you for £1500 as it stands, all day long, as would many others so dont go handing it back.

shake n bake

2,221 posts

207 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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I know a very good man who would turn that around without any bother, where are you based?

lord trumpton

7,398 posts

126 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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OP - iirc the mini roof is a cosmetic item, made of grp. They srarted making them that way as part of the customisable roof options.

Once the seal that surrounds the roof section is removed I would suspect it could be removed. There will be a metal structural skin underneath. I think

Easternlight

3,431 posts

144 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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lord trumpton said:
OP - iirc the mini roof is a cosmetic item, made of grp.
Please don't take this wrong, but have a look at the picture on page 1. That doesn't look like GRP.


Alistair1990

Original Poster:

135 posts

178 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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shake n bake said:
I know a very good man who would turn that around without any bother, where are you based?
I'm based in south west London, near Wimbledon. But with family in Surrey, Manchester and West Yorkshire I'm willing to travel.

lord trumpton

7,398 posts

126 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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Easternlight said:
lord trumpton said:
OP - iirc the mini roof is a cosmetic item, made of grp.
Please don't take this wrong, but have a look at the picture on page 1. That doesn't look like GRP.
None taken smile

Yeah I agree looking at it on the laptop its a metal skin with black gelcoat.

I still beleive it's not a welded structural item; there is a 'real' metal roof skin underneath

Alistair1990

Original Poster:

135 posts

178 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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lord trumpton said:
None taken smile

Yeah I agree looking at it on the laptop its a metal skin with black gelcoat.

I still beleive it's not a welded structural item; there is a 'real' metal roof skin underneath
Agreed. There is a clear gap between the damaged outer skin and what I guess is the actual roof (or at least the structural bit) underneath. While the skin is punctured, the inner roof only has a small groove in it, a couple of inches long.

LambShank

14,698 posts

189 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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If the car was taken back by the ins co it would probably end up at Copart to be auctioned.
Take all the money from the insurance and buy it back from Copart for peanuts.

shake n bake

2,221 posts

207 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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Alistair1990 said:
shake n bake said:
I know a very good man who would turn that around without any bother, where are you based?
I'm based in south west London, near Wimbledon. But with family in Surrey, Manchester and West Yorkshire I'm willing to travel.
The guy I've used for years is based on Devon, good, reliable and not expensive. Message me if you want his contact details.

Alistair1990

Original Poster:

135 posts

178 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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shake n bake said:
The guy I've used for years is based on Devon, good, reliable and not expensive. Message me if you want his contact details.
Might have to incorporate a weekend away...
Cheers, I'll PM you now