Cheap fun for the twistys?

[Stickyfinger]

What ever is said and all the above are great BUT, there is still only ONE leader on the twistys bits

Citroën Xantia 3.0i V6 Activa 1999......85
Porsche 997 GT3 RS 2008.................82
Porsche 996 GT2 2004....................82
Porsche 997 Carrera 4S 2008.............82
Porsche 997 GT2 2008....................81.5
Porsche 997 Carrera S 2008..............81
Porsche 997 Carrera S Cabriolet 2005....81
Porsche 991 Carrera 4S 2014.............81
Nissan X-Trail dCi 130 4×4 2014.........80
Ferrari Testarossa 1987.................80
Opel Omega 2.2 (sports suspension) 2000..80
Chevrolet Corvette C6 2005...............80
Audi R8 4.2 FSI 2008.....................8o

Edited by Stickyfinger on Tuesday 21st June 21:35

[AntiLagGC8]

Stickyfinger said:

What ever is said and all the above are great BUT, there is still only ONE leader on the twistys bits

Citroën Xantia 3.0i V6 Activa 1999......85
Porsche 997 GT3 RS 2008.................82
Porsche 996 GT2 2004....................82
Porsche 997 Carrera 4S 2008.............82
Porsche 997 GT2 2008....................81.5
Porsche 997 Carrera S 2008..............81
Porsche 997 Carrera S Cabriolet 2005....81
Porsche 991 Carrera 4S 2014.............81
Nissan X-Trail dCi 130 4×4 2014.........80
Ferrari Testarossa 1987.................80

What do those scores relate too bud? Also do you have a source for the information?

[Stickyfinger]

As tested by the Swedish Teknikens Varld Magazine

Max speed through the Moose test course

[Baryonyx]

Itsallicanafford said:

...Ahem



edited to add...Ah, he has bought a Mini, fait play, nice motor...

Edited by Itsallicanafford on Tuesday 21st June 15:03

I love Minis. I also love the 106 Rallye. I had one and for pure fun, they're amazing but the Mini will be a lot plusher and more refined than the Peugeot.

[AntiLagGC8]

Stickyfinger said:

As tested by the Swedish Teknikens Varld Magazine

Max speed through the Moose test course

So presumably that's a stability test as opposed to a cornering test?

[Baryonyx]

AntiLagGC8 said:

So presumably that's a stability test as opposed to a cornering test?

The presence of the X Trail is a hint that it's not about cornering competency!

[thunderpigeon]

Another vote for a Clio 172/182. I had a 172 cup, great fun on the twisties, fast enough on the straights, and affordable to run.

Makes me want to go buy another one...

[castex]

May I recommend a...
Oh, you bought a girl's car.
Carry on!

[Stickyfinger]

AntiLagGC8 said:

Stickyfinger said:

As tested by the Swedish Teknikens Varld Magazine

Max speed through the Moose test course

So presumably that's a stability test as opposed to a cornering test?

No, it is a max speed through the course, simple as that.
Do you think stability does not relate to safe cornering/increased capability in cornering.

Edited by Stickyfinger on Tuesday 21st June 22:26

[Addymk2]

Toyo T1Rs? Well priced and grippy I've got them on my 182 ATM and I'm more than happy with them as a fast road tyre

[CountZero23]

castex said:

May I recommend a...
Oh, you bought a girl's car.
Carry on!

+1

Clearly the best option is an early Boxster S. You could have had this off him for 5k and you'd be sorted.


http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Didn't realize decent S's were that cheap now.

[Mr Tidy]

OP, lovely looking R53 you have found there!

My OH had an R53 Mini One then an R56 Cooper and they were both great to drive, especially the Cooper! Just needed to be an S or a JCW to make the most of the chassis - definitely the best FWD car I have driven, although a MKI Golf GTi was pretty close! (But a decent one now would be way out of budget)!

Have fun!

[Notanotherturbo]

lostkiwi said:

Smart Roadster.
Small - Yes
Blown - Yes
Handles well - Yes
Better brakes available - Yes (aftermarket)
Under £3k? - Yes

I think that was all your boxes ticked?

Used to live in the Peaks myself (Chapel) and mine was superb fun.

st gearbox - yes

[Stickyfinger]

CountZero23 said:

+1

Clearly the best option is an early Boxster S. You could have had this off him for 5k and you'd be sorted.


http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Didn't realize decent S's were that cheap now.

Low prices....crazy days

[Notanotherturbo]

182 Cup with some sticky rubber and carbon pads would be my choice. You can get something in really good condition for silly money. You won't find more fun for less. MX5 also fun but won't carry the speed of a sorted Clio. Don't underestimate the advantage of narrowness on those sort of roads. Boxsters do look good value but they are cheap for a reason - they go wrong alot and are expensive to fix. Maybe look at a Z4 3.0 too - rear wheel drive, cheap, quick and surprisingly economical - devisive looks aside they would be a good choice if you want a convertible.

[johnwilliams77]

Notanotherturbo said:

182 Cup with some sticky rubber and carbon pads would be my choice. You can get something in really good condition for silly money. You won't find more fun for less. MX5 also fun but won't carry the speed of a sorted Clio. Don't underestimate the advantage of narrowness on those sort of roads. Boxsters do look good value but they are cheap for a reason - they go wrong alot and are expensive to fix. Maybe look at a Z4 3.0 too - rear wheel drive, cheap, quick and surprisingly economical - devisive looks aside they would be a good choice if you want a convertible.

I very much doubt the speed difference is significant in a sorted mx5 or Clio. Difference with the mx5 is that you have RWD and roof off for extra fun

[PoopahScoopah]

Baryonyx said:

Telecaster_ said:

For torque I was thinking of coming out of a lot of low speed bends and hairpins and wanting a nice amount of acceleration before the next one, TBH I've never had much luck with N/A motors, it always feels like your waiting for something to happen and it never does.

It sounds as though you haven't yet figured out how a gearbox works.

Stupidest reply of the whole thread. Shame, the rest was mostly quite interesting.

[Craikeybaby]

Stickyfinger said:

What ever is said and all the above are great BUT, there is still only ONE leader on the twistys bits

Citroën Xantia 3.0i V6 Activa 1999......85
Porsche 997 GT3 RS 2008.................82
Porsche 996 GT2 2004....................82
Porsche 997 Carrera 4S 2008.............82
Porsche 997 GT2 2008....................81.5
Porsche 997 Carrera S 2008..............81
Porsche 997 Carrera S Cabriolet 2005....81
Porsche 991 Carrera 4S 2014.............81
Nissan X-Trail dCi 130 4×4 2014.........80
Ferrari Testarossa 1987.................80
Opel Omega 2.2 (sports suspension) 2000..80
Chevrolet Corvette C6 2005...............80
Audi R8 4.2 FSI 2008.....................8o

Edited by Stickyfinger on Tuesday 21st June 21:35

Stickyfinger said:

As tested by the Swedish Teknikens Varld Magazine

Max speed through the Moose test course

That's all well and good, but does higher speed = more fun? I find that the cars are more fun nearer their limits, which is why the MX-5 is so much fun on a B road. The R53 Coopers and Renault Sport Clios also appeal to me, but they won't win in objective tests - but fun is subjective!

[CABC]

Craikeybaby said:

That's all well and good, but does higher speed = more fun? I find that the cars are more fun nearer their limits, which is why the MX-5 is so much fun on a B road. The R53 Coopers and Renault Sport Clios also appeal to me, but they won't win in objective tests - but fun is subjective!

A mag (Autocar i think) did a wet test last year. lateral g, stopping etc. GT86 on stock tyres came last on all metrics. Except every journo wanted the keys to that car at the end of the day for playtime.

[BenLowden]

172 Cup, or a 182 Cup if you want air con, ESP and ABS (the 172 Cup has none of these but it also adds 80kg).

I've never had so much fun for so little, although I'd also consider a Mk1 MX-5 but I'm yet to drive one. Dare I say the Clio would be more reliable and won't rust although a proper cambelt/depasher/water pump change at a reputable specialist will set you back £700-800 so check its been done recently.