The fabulous World of the unknown French sports car makers!
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Ciid said:
shirt said:
read the thread title [you wrote it]. none of this makes sense.
I've always thought that a race car is a sports car, but how do i change the thread title?98elise said:
Sports car has two meanings really. You could describe any perfromance or competition car as a generic "sports car" but then the is the sub type of sports cars vs super cars vs hot hatches etc.
Thank you very much.This thread is for all the unknown French sports/race cars manufacturers.
Ciid said:
blueg33 said:
Not sure I agree with that. A hot hatch is not a sports car. When the Alpine is finally in production it will be the first for mAny years.
They have a few, Peugeot RCZ, Secma F16 Turbo, PGO, Renault Spider, Venturi, Hommell, etc..I stand by my earlier assertion. RCZ is debatable, PGO some sort of Porsche replica but yes a sports car and the Secma......
Alpine can't come soon enough.
Edited by blueg33 on Friday 15th July 21:31
blueg33 said:
Renault Spider isn't current production and hasn't been for yonks, unless I have missed something, Venturi went making road cars currently, Hommell stopped making cars in 2003.
I stand by my earlier assertion. RCZ is debatable, PGO some sort of Porsche replica but yes a sports car and the Secma......
Alpine can't come soon enough.
The RCZ is a sports car, the Peugeot RCZ got many international awards like five successive times 'Best Sports Car' by Diesel Car magazine.I stand by my earlier assertion. RCZ is debatable, PGO some sort of Porsche replica but yes a sports car and the Secma......
Alpine can't come soon enough.
Edited by blueg33 on Friday 15th July 21:31
Founded in 1997 by Philippe Gache, professional racing driver since 1983, SMG is a professional and independent racing team and manufacturer which succeeded in meeting all the faced challenges. This is so mainly thanks to a huge team-spirit and to a strong will of constantly progressing.
Over the past few years, and in any motorsports, or on any ground, the SMG geniuses have been conceiving mechanical marvels. This is why, building and driving their cars always generates an enthusiastic atmosphere.
Whether on ice, on asphalt or on gravel, the SMG team has always been able to adapt to win the race.
Five participations in the 24 Hours of Le Mans on R&S Ford and Courage, the Pikes Peak race (first category Open 1999-2001), icing races (IRSI 2000 World Champion and 2001 Vice-Champion, 1998 Trophy Andros winner and third in 1999), four victories in the 2002 Super-tourism Championship.
"Everywhere SMG goes, SMG wins…"
Settled in the South-East of France in new 3000 m² High-Tech premises, SMG equipped itself to constantly conceive, build and develop their own 2WD rally-raid prototypes. Gathering all the motorsports professions and investing in the latest CAD/CAM technologies, the team has been able to grow relying on its years of experience.
SMG won the 2WD category in the 2012 Dakar with the 7th rank in the general classification for the first car.
The company employs year-round about fifteen people who represent numerous professions such as mechanics, boiler making, coach-building, plastics manufacturing or engineering.
http://www.team-smg.com/Team-Presentation_a27.html
Over the past few years, and in any motorsports, or on any ground, the SMG geniuses have been conceiving mechanical marvels. This is why, building and driving their cars always generates an enthusiastic atmosphere.
Whether on ice, on asphalt or on gravel, the SMG team has always been able to adapt to win the race.
Five participations in the 24 Hours of Le Mans on R&S Ford and Courage, the Pikes Peak race (first category Open 1999-2001), icing races (IRSI 2000 World Champion and 2001 Vice-Champion, 1998 Trophy Andros winner and third in 1999), four victories in the 2002 Super-tourism Championship.
"Everywhere SMG goes, SMG wins…"
Settled in the South-East of France in new 3000 m² High-Tech premises, SMG equipped itself to constantly conceive, build and develop their own 2WD rally-raid prototypes. Gathering all the motorsports professions and investing in the latest CAD/CAM technologies, the team has been able to grow relying on its years of experience.
SMG won the 2WD category in the 2012 Dakar with the 7th rank in the general classification for the first car.
The company employs year-round about fifteen people who represent numerous professions such as mechanics, boiler making, coach-building, plastics manufacturing or engineering.
http://www.team-smg.com/Team-Presentation_a27.html
300bhp/ton said:
I very much like these:
Although never actually seen one in person
But on paper it ticks all the boxes that I'd want from a car. And I rather like how they look.
I think I was introduced to them on Forza or Grand Turismo, I forget which.
Only downside is, when I did some reading up on them, they seemed some what pricey...
Why post pictures of obscure cars without naming them ?Although never actually seen one in person
But on paper it ticks all the boxes that I'd want from a car. And I rather like how they look.
I think I was introduced to them on Forza or Grand Turismo, I forget which.
Only downside is, when I did some reading up on them, they seemed some what pricey...
Could someone name this please.
The French entered all manner of niche vehicles at Le Mans in order to win "something", usually the Index of Performance which appeared to have a formula to decide the winner which changed to suit whichever French car the organisers wanted to win.
There was also the bonkers WM-Peugeot which existed for one reason only, which was to achieve the maximum speed on the pre-chicane Mulsanne straight:
http://en.wikinoticia.com/entertainment/engine/202...
Roger Dorchy was either very brave, or very daft.
There was also the bonkers WM-Peugeot which existed for one reason only, which was to achieve the maximum speed on the pre-chicane Mulsanne straight:
http://en.wikinoticia.com/entertainment/engine/202...
Roger Dorchy was either very brave, or very daft.
Dermot O'Logical said:
The French entered all manner of niche vehicles at Le Mans in order to win "something", usually the Index of Performance which appeared to have a formula to decide the winner which changed to suit whichever French car the organisers wanted to win.
There was also the bonkers WM-Peugeot which existed for one reason only, which was to achieve the maximum speed on the pre-chicane Mulsanne straight:
http://en.wikinoticia.com/entertainment/engine/202...
Roger Dorchy was either very brave, or very daft.
The Index of Performance was a simple calculation where the distance (D) actually covered by the car was divided by the distance set by the ACO based on engine capacity (D1). The IoP was won a lot of times by Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin, Bentley, etc., etc.. I'm not sure, but the last time i checked these were not French manufacturers.There was also the bonkers WM-Peugeot which existed for one reason only, which was to achieve the maximum speed on the pre-chicane Mulsanne straight:
http://en.wikinoticia.com/entertainment/engine/202...
Roger Dorchy was either very brave, or very daft.
Ciid said:
The Index of Performance was a simple calculation where the distance (D) actually covered by the car was divided by the distance set by the ACO based on engine capacity (D1). The IoP was won a lot of times by Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin, Bentley, etc., etc.. I'm not sure, but the last time i checked these were not French manufacturers.
But then there was the even more impenetrable "Index of Thermal Efficiency", a much more complex calculation which favoured small-engined lightweight cars.Which happened to be exactly what the small French makers were entering.
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