The fabulous World of the unknown French sports car makers!

The fabulous World of the unknown French sports car makers!

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Ciid

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Saturday 23rd July 2016
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Ciid

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Sunday 24th July 2016
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SMG Buggy in the Gobi Desert, China, Silk Way Rally 2016.


Ciid

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Saturday 24th September 2016
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THE LIGIER JS P217 UNVEILED AT SPA-FRANCORCHAMPS!



After undergoing its first tests at Magny-Cours the Ligier JS P217 was unveiled this evening at the Spa-Francorchamps circuit. Onroak Automotive presented its brand-new LM P2 to numerous guests, media, teams and drivers at the fifth round of the European Le Mans Series.

The Ligier JS P217, a new LM P2 complying with the regulations that will come into force in 2017, was unveiled today Friday 23rd September 2016 after more than a year of intense work. This new model takes advantage of all Onroak Automotive’s experience in the construction of LM P2 chassis.

The design of the Ligier JS P217 is the fruit of the know-how of the Onroak Automotive Design Office directed by Nicolas Clemençon. It is a completely new car and it makes use of very advanced aerodynamic studies that have optimised drag reduction and led to the development of a particularly efficient cooling system.

The Ligier JS P217 left the Le Mans workshops early in the week to have several shakedown sessions on the Magny-Cours circuit. As these tests fulfilled all the Onroak Automotive’s expectations, the development programme will go ahead as planned so that the first cars delivered to clients will be as fully sorted and fine-tuned as possible by the end of the year to run in the United States, where the first race will take place in January.

This presentation is organised a few days after the announcement of the presence of Onroak Automotive in DPi via a partnership with Tequila Patron ESM and Nissan. Two Onroak Nissan DPis based on the chassis of the Ligier JS P217, powered by Nissan engines, will race in the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship in 2017.

Jacques Nicolet, President Onroak Automotive: “The presentation of a new model is always a very emotional moment. After several months of intensive work by all our teams in the utmost secrecy, it’s a great thrill today to unveil our new LM P2 in which we have invested all our passion and our professionalism. After the Ligier JS P2 and the Ligier JS P3 in 2014 and 2015 we’re very proud to present the Ligier JS P217. It retains the initials « JS », the historic homage to Jo Schlesser by Guy Ligier who is very much in my thoughts today.”

Sébastien Metz, Le Mans site Director: “The Ligier JS P217 is the result of the work of our Design Department and our different services, plus the very efficient collaboration we’ve enjoyed with the technical partners who’ve been helping us on this programme. In the early phase of the design process the aerodynamic studies were carried out with EXA for the CFD, and the RUAG wind tunnel. HP Composites with whom we already worked on our previous models is the exclusive supplier for the structural elements in carbon and the Ligier JS P217’s bodywork. Finally, we would also like to thank PKM and Hewland for the work we did together on the chassis. We’re very satisfied with the first shakedowns on the Magny-Cours circuit, and we’re going to continue working in the coming weeks to give the teams full satisfaction.”

Posted on 09/23/2016

Categories LM P2, News

http://www.onroak.com/en/our-cars/lm-p2-en/the-lig...

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

125 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Bodo said:
Voisin was more luxury that sportscar maker; however, they did this - out of spite:

Voisin C6 'Laboratoire'
And this:

(Voisin c27 Aerosport)

and this:

(Voisin c27 Grand Sport)

and this:

(Voisin c3)

and this:

(Voisin KE Sport Roadster)

and this:

(Voisin C28 Saliot Cabriolet though admittedly its more of a Grand Tourer)

Interesting company and one of the ones to use knight sleeve valve engines.

Edited by lostkiwi on Saturday 24th September 02:58

blueg33

36,032 posts

225 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Ciid said:
THE LIGIER JS P217 UNVEILED AT SPA-FRANCORCHAMPS!



After undergoing its first tests at Magny-Cours the Ligier JS P217 was unveiled this evening at the Spa-Francorchamps circuit. Onroak Automotive presented its brand-new LM P2 to numerous guests, media, teams and drivers at the fifth round of the European Le Mans Series.

The Ligier JS P217, a new LM P2 complying with the regulations that will come into force in 2017, was unveiled today Friday 23rd September 2016 after more than a year of intense work. This new model takes advantage of all Onroak Automotive’s experience in the construction of LM P2 chassis.

The design of the Ligier JS P217 is the fruit of the know-how of the Onroak Automotive Design Office directed by Nicolas Clemençon. It is a completely new car and it makes use of very advanced aerodynamic studies that have optimised drag reduction and led to the development of a particularly efficient cooling system.

The Ligier JS P217 left the Le Mans workshops early in the week to have several shakedown sessions on the Magny-Cours circuit. As these tests fulfilled all the Onroak Automotive’s expectations, the development programme will go ahead as planned so that the first cars delivered to clients will be as fully sorted and fine-tuned as possible by the end of the year to run in the United States, where the first race will take place in January.

This presentation is organised a few days after the announcement of the presence of Onroak Automotive in DPi via a partnership with Tequila Patron ESM and Nissan. Two Onroak Nissan DPis based on the chassis of the Ligier JS P217, powered by Nissan engines, will race in the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship in 2017.

Jacques Nicolet, President Onroak Automotive: “The presentation of a new model is always a very emotional moment. After several months of intensive work by all our teams in the utmost secrecy, it’s a great thrill today to unveil our new LM P2 in which we have invested all our passion and our professionalism. After the Ligier JS P2 and the Ligier JS P3 in 2014 and 2015 we’re very proud to present the Ligier JS P217. It retains the initials « JS », the historic homage to Jo Schlesser by Guy Ligier who is very much in my thoughts today.”

Sébastien Metz, Le Mans site Director: “The Ligier JS P217 is the result of the work of our Design Department and our different services, plus the very efficient collaboration we’ve enjoyed with the technical partners who’ve been helping us on this programme. In the early phase of the design process the aerodynamic studies were carried out with EXA for the CFD, and the RUAG wind tunnel. HP Composites with whom we already worked on our previous models is the exclusive supplier for the structural elements in carbon and the Ligier JS P217’s bodywork. Finally, we would also like to thank PKM and Hewland for the work we did together on the chassis. We’re very satisfied with the first shakedowns on the Magny-Cours circuit, and we’re going to continue working in the coming weeks to give the teams full satisfaction.”

Posted on 09/23/2016

Categories LM P2, News

http://www.onroak.com/en/our-cars/lm-p2-en/the-lig...
That looks just the same as the one I saw at Donnington Park earlier in the year. It was described as the new Legier , I think I posted it on page 2 of this thread. I wonder if anything is different between the two cars?

Ciid

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Tuesday 27th September 2016
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blueg33 said:
That looks just the same as the one I saw at Donnington Park earlier in the year. It was described as the new Legier , I think I posted it on page 2 of this thread. I wonder if anything is different between the two cars?
That one that you've posted is the Ligier car for the LMP3 category (The JS P3), this one is the new Ligier car for the LMP2 category. Two differents categories. wink

Thank you very much.

blueg33

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Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Ciid said:
blueg33 said:
That looks just the same as the one I saw at Donnington Park earlier in the year. It was described as the new Legier , I think I posted it on page 2 of this thread. I wonder if anything is different between the two cars?
That one that you've posted is the Ligier car for the LMP3 category (The JS P3), this one is the new Ligier car for the LMP2 category. Two differents categories. wink

Thank you very much.
Indeed, but the chassis looks very similar, isnt the main difference in engine regs?

Ciid

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Wednesday 28th September 2016
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blueg33 said:
Indeed, but the chassis looks very similar, isnt the main difference in engine regs?
LMP3
LMP3 is a low-cost class intended for introducing young drivers and new teams to endurance racing before they progress to the higher classes of prototype racing, LMP2 and ultimately LMP1.[8] LMP3 uses closed-cockpit chassis, which can be built by any constructor, powered by a 5-litre normally-aspirated V8 Nissan engine.[9] The class is being used since 2015.

LMP3[10]
Minimum weight - 930 kilograms (2,050 lb)
Maximum length - 4,650 millimetres (183 in)
Maximum width - 1,900 millimetres (75 in)
Engine Naturally aspirated Nissan V8 5L
Fuel tank size 85 litres (22 US gal)
Maximum wheel diameter - 28 inches (710 mm)
Maximum wheel width - 13 inches (330 mm)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Mans_Prototype#LM...

Ciid

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Tuesday 11th October 2016
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RGR Sport's Ligier JS P2 - Fuji International Speedway


Ciid

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Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Oreca

Mission is about to start...! #LicenceToWin #Oreca07








https://www.facebook.com/Oreca.fr/

Maser17

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91 months

Monday 31st October 2016
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For the Venturi Atlantique lovers on this thread, the last ever UK car is being advertised in the classifieds here on Pistonheads. It's being auctioned on Friday and the leading bid so far is only £20k, which seems absurdly cheap given that the only Atlantique currently for sale on the continent is up for EUR 99k.

(I know I'm a bit late to this thread, but only just joined!)

Ciid

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Monday 31st October 2016
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Maser17 said:
For the Venturi Atlantique lovers on this thread, the last ever UK car is being advertised in the classifieds here on Pistonheads. It's being auctioned on Friday and the leading bid so far is only £20k, which seems absurdly cheap given that the only Atlantique currently for sale on the continent is up for EUR 99k.

(I know I'm a bit late to this thread, but only just joined!)
You're truly welcome!

Thank you very much!

Ciid

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Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Oreca 07


Ciid

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Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Maser17 said:
For the Venturi Atlantique lovers on this thread, the last ever UK car is being advertised in the classifieds here on Pistonheads. It's being auctioned on Friday and the leading bid so far is only £20k, which seems absurdly cheap given that the only Atlantique currently for sale on the continent is up for EUR 99k.

(I know I'm a bit late to this thread, but only just joined!)
Is this one?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...

Thank you very much.

Ciid

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Tuesday 1st November 2016
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McAndy

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178 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Ciid said:
Facel Vega was more luxury than sporty.
Could the same description not be leveled at Bentley? A good GT car is luxury sportiness, rather than something like an AMG S-Class which, in my mind, is sporty luxuriousness. I'd vote Facel in on that basis. smile

McAndy

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178 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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I'd love a Venturi, and at that price it's seriously tempting! Can anybody provide me with a link to the current price, please? I cannot see one from the advert.

j90gta

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135 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Renault were not allowed to call this an Alpine in the UK (even though my car was supplied with Alpine badging on the nose/tail and hubcaps).

To think that in the 1980s the Alpine name was owned by Talbot/Chrysler who gave us this



jingars

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241 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Sorry for the poor quality photo, but only had my phone with me when we saw this in a supermarket car park on whilst on holiday in France in August.

Had to Google it; Matra 530