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Twinkam said:
Profit came later, I understood that Ford only used a (modified version of) Kent in the Ka because the intended engine, a 3 cyl 2-stroke (yes, really) developed by Ford Australia, failed to materialise (read as, failed to stop creating smoke huge screens behind it). Kent was the only lump they had that was short enough to fit across the bay.
Pretty much the same reason that the A-series continued to be used... it was small.
Same argument was used for sending 7 yr olds up chimneys...
Limpet said:
The old 1.3 worked well in the Ka. Simple, torquey, economical, cheap. Biggest issue was the tendency for the spark plug taper seats to weld themselves to the iron head through corrosion.
...and that was only due to plugs being fitted without Copaslip (other copper-based anti-seize compounds are available
)But the fact remains, it wasn't their engine of intent, and the days of pushrods had passed.
The petrol pump initially installed on the 1957 Plymouth/Dodge etc V8s (the Poly engine) was still being used well into the '70s on the later LA series engines fitted to Dodge trucks. Since the LA was used from 1964 to 2003 I suspect it was used until at least 1991.
So that's around 34 years.
How about the steel wheels fitted to Ford Anglia's (the 105E)? I think it was the same wheel used on Mk 1 and 2 base Escorts, and on trailers even today!
And then there are parts from Series 1 Land Rovers (1948) that were still fitted to Series IIIs (up to 1985).
300bhp/ton said:
No it wouldn't.
The 6 pot developed for the SD1 had limited displacement potential. And was longer and heavier than the RV8.
I know early prototypes made very promising power that was very close to the stock low CR output of the 3.5 V8 on carbs. But it would never have been matching the torque or the power profile. So while in a saloon car the PEAK power may be been fine, in something like a classic Range Rover it would have lacked grunt and would have required thrashing more so.
Here is a power plot for a 4.6 RV8 and a modern BMW 3.0 litre engine. The BMW unit is very nice, but vastly more complex, which logically means more costly to build.
And yes PEAK power the much newer BMW unit makes more power. But low and mid range rpm the old larger displacement motor has it well and truly beat.
Not this sThe 6 pot developed for the SD1 had limited displacement potential. And was longer and heavier than the RV8.
I know early prototypes made very promising power that was very close to the stock low CR output of the 3.5 V8 on carbs. But it would never have been matching the torque or the power profile. So while in a saloon car the PEAK power may be been fine, in something like a classic Range Rover it would have lacked grunt and would have required thrashing more so.
Here is a power plot for a 4.6 RV8 and a modern BMW 3.0 litre engine. The BMW unit is very nice, but vastly more complex, which logically means more costly to build.
And yes PEAK power the much newer BMW unit makes more power. But low and mid range rpm the old larger displacement motor has it well and truly beat.
t again! FFS!Engine with 53% more capacity produces more torque shocker.
Want to post a graph against a similar sized engine from the early 2000s?
The RV8 was competitive capacity for capacity up until 1980s. Remained competitive on size/bhp or lbft until the 1990s. Cost wise, bhp or lbft per pound as installed in the vehicle, I doubt it was competitive much beyond the 1990s also as the cost to manufacturer on a mass market modern engine is probably not as high as imagined as the R&D cost, as high as it is, is spread over 100s of thousands of units per year.
The side indicator repeaters on PSA stuff - the Mk1 107/C1/Aygo, Mk2 108/C1/Aygo, C6 and a few PSA vans all use the same design I think.
Then on other PSA stuff, the Mk1 308, 207, Mk1 C4, DS3 and DS4 all seem to use the same door mirror arrangement sitting up on a pylon out of the door skin, with the indictor nestled in the pylon.
DS5, 508 and C4 Grand Picasso seem to use the same exterior door handles and wing mirrors.
DS5 and C4 Cactus use the same steering wheel mounted radio and cruise/speed limiter buttons.
DS5 and 3008 have the same head up display unit
Volvos and Aston Martins of a certain age seem to share the same electric widow switches and possibly electric seat switches.
Land Rover Series 1/2/3 and some Morgans appear to share door handles.
And as said before, lots of VAG stuff using the same side repeaters.
Then on other PSA stuff, the Mk1 308, 207, Mk1 C4, DS3 and DS4 all seem to use the same door mirror arrangement sitting up on a pylon out of the door skin, with the indictor nestled in the pylon.
DS5, 508 and C4 Grand Picasso seem to use the same exterior door handles and wing mirrors.
DS5 and C4 Cactus use the same steering wheel mounted radio and cruise/speed limiter buttons.
DS5 and 3008 have the same head up display unit
Volvos and Aston Martins of a certain age seem to share the same electric widow switches and possibly electric seat switches.
Land Rover Series 1/2/3 and some Morgans appear to share door handles.
And as said before, lots of VAG stuff using the same side repeaters.
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