RE: 10 questions TVR's new bosses must answer
Discussion
V8 FOU said:
"the car will be homologated, not an SVA for each one."
Uh..... really? I would guess the costs for this would be horrendous. I would have thought for a (very) low volume manufacturer SVA for the initial cars would be a no-brainer.
There's various ways of not having to take EACH and EVERY single car to an IVA test...Uh..... really? I would guess the costs for this would be horrendous. I would have thought for a (very) low volume manufacturer SVA for the initial cars would be a no-brainer.
EC small-scale type approval
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/vehicletype/ec-small-ser...
National small-scale type approval, but it caps at 75 cars and is UK-only.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca//vehicletype/national-sm...
Or even, at the smallest (and most expensive per car), an IVA model report.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/individual-veh...
LaurasOtherHalf said:
In terms of the traditional character traits what will make it a true TVR?
No you aren't. I thought that was something they should have good understanding of by now, and according to earlier interviews they had already talked to TVR owners to find out what they wanted. I guess more input is always helpful though.Les Edgar said:
You tell us! It's a question we should put to the forum I think.
I am the only person who thinks if they're going to be building the things next year they might want to have figured this one out by now?GranCab said:
Are the "400 plus" customer deposits being held in an Escrow Account ? I bloody well hope so ...
Like many of their answers, this isnt specified.tvr.co.uk said:
Is my money at risk?
No – we would never allow that to be the case. We are well funded, and are here to stay! The deposit line has opened in response to a large number of requests from potential customers wishing to place a deposit on the basis of the information currently available both in the motoring press and on our website. If you do not consider this to be sufficient for you to decide whether or not you should place a deposit, we recommend you do not do so. However, if you pay by credit card, your payment is guaranteed by the credit card company.
Dont worry though as they are 'here to stay'.No – we would never allow that to be the case. We are well funded, and are here to stay! The deposit line has opened in response to a large number of requests from potential customers wishing to place a deposit on the basis of the information currently available both in the motoring press and on our website. If you do not consider this to be sufficient for you to decide whether or not you should place a deposit, we recommend you do not do so. However, if you pay by credit card, your payment is guaranteed by the credit card company.
KTF said:
GranCab said:
Are the "400 plus" customer deposits being held in an Escrow Account ? I bloody well hope so ...
Like many of their answers, this isnt specified.tvr.co.uk said:
Is my money at risk?
No – we would never allow that to be the case. We are well funded, and are here to stay! The deposit line has opened in response to a large number of requests from potential customers wishing to place a deposit on the basis of the information currently available both in the motoring press and on our website. If you do not consider this to be sufficient for you to decide whether or not you should place a deposit, we recommend you do not do so. However, if you pay by credit card, your payment is guaranteed by the credit card company.
Dont worry though as they are 'here to stay'.No – we would never allow that to be the case. We are well funded, and are here to stay! The deposit line has opened in response to a large number of requests from potential customers wishing to place a deposit on the basis of the information currently available both in the motoring press and on our website. If you do not consider this to be sufficient for you to decide whether or not you should place a deposit, we recommend you do not do so. However, if you pay by credit card, your payment is guaranteed by the credit card company.
And, tbh, it's the one you'd expect. What's the point of bringing in 400 x £5,000 advance deposits (£2m), if not to raise funds towards product development? Can't do that if the money's held in an escrow account...
TooMany2cvs said:
Like many of their answers, that does give the answer quite clearly if you just read between the lines a little. No, it's not held in an escrow account.
Yep, you're right. The line about paying on a credit card for security gives that away. Crowd funding at best, something not quite so palatable at worst. Impasse said:
Crowd funding at best, something not quite so palatable at worst.
From a little further up the same page...TVR.co.uk said:
We are very aware of the historic issues surrounding previous owners of the marque and issues over deposits, and can assure that these will not be repeated
https://tvr.co.uk/noise/depositTooMany2cvs said:
Like many of their answers, that does give the answer quite clearly if you just read between the lines a little. No, it's not held in an escrow account.
And, tbh, it's the one you'd expect. What's the point of bringing in 400 x £5,000 advance deposits (£2m), if not to raise funds towards product development? Can't do that if the money's held in an escrow account...
If they NEED the circa £2 million raised from the customer deposits then they are seriously under-funded !And, tbh, it's the one you'd expect. What's the point of bringing in 400 x £5,000 advance deposits (£2m), if not to raise funds towards product development? Can't do that if the money's held in an escrow account...
If you did indeed pay your £5k deposit on a CC and therefore have some personal security ... can TVR access that cash - and if they can and do and then it goes tits up how do they pay BarclayCard and MasterCard back those deposits ?
I'm not in a position to buy one, so really it doesn't matter what I think, but if those were the 10 questions they must answer, I didn't feel like they answered them very well.
For the sort of money involved, it seemed like a bit of a jokey tone.
The interview read as a rather drawn out version of Les and the other chap basically just saying "It'll be fiiiiiiiiiine, *snigger*"
For the sort of money involved, it seemed like a bit of a jokey tone.
The interview read as a rather drawn out version of Les and the other chap basically just saying "It'll be fiiiiiiiiiine, *snigger*"
TooMany2cvs said:
GranCab said:
This album should be in all TVR deposit placers' collection ...
Nekkid 11yo girls are a big TVR thing, are they?"The next mule, which is representative of the size and weight with our drivetrain in it, we're probably a month, two months maybe from that. I think we expect reasonably early next year to be in something that's pretty representative of the final thing."
Breaking this down a bit, the next mule, so another random test car that's similar size and weight etc. they're probably a month, two months maybe from that.
So it probably could take another 4 weeks, or it might be double that, we've no idea, maybe.
I think we expect
So you're not clear on what you expect to happen, let alone what's actually happening?
reasonably early next year
So not early next year, but 'reasonably early', which means what, April?
to be in something that's pretty representative of the final thing.
Pretty representative, again, as opposed to something that is representative, or perhaps even something that actually IS the final thing to be going through testing with. So you'll complete the testing with something that's pretty representative of the final thing, make some tweaks or what have you to get to the final thing, then roll that out untested?
I really do hope that it's just a case of typical British understatement provoking this sort of language, as to me that just sounds like classic
non-committal placation worded specifically to avoid making any actual promises so you can't be told off for breaking them.
EDIT:
Just thought I'd add, I don't really care when it comes out, and would love it to be a massive success and am hugely excited to see what it looks like and hear it in action
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