RE: Shed of the Week: Jaguar X-Type V6
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I was interested in one recently until I did further research via google - they have a major corrosion problem which is very likely to wipe out many if not all X-Types.
The sills fill up with water and the resultant corrosion is shocking!
If you're seriously thinking about parting your hard earned for an X-Type you must give it a thorough inspection - you have been warned.
and for those thinking of an S-Type, it's also very bad news I'm afraid:
The sills fill up with water and the resultant corrosion is shocking!
If you're seriously thinking about parting your hard earned for an X-Type you must give it a thorough inspection - you have been warned.
and for those thinking of an S-Type, it's also very bad news I'm afraid:
Edited by infomotive on Friday 10th June 20:01
The comment about needing a driveway for a Jaguar made me laugh. I've only just managed to get rid of my old XJ8 which was stranded on my bloody driveway. I casually thought I'd scrap it in due course after the MOT expired. Well, the battery went flat and it was a right tt to get it shifted onto the back of a low loader.
I've promised myself that I'll never put another Jaguar on that driveway.
I've promised myself that I'll never put another Jaguar on that driveway.
I had a 2.5 X Type many years ago. It was utterly horrid. In no particular order, it was
Slow
So incredibly thirsty
Deeply uncomfortable (it gave me back ache and a dead leg every time I drove it)
Badly equipped
Poorly built
Badly designed (in winter time, the small front headlights salted up something chronic, meaning you had to stop every 30 minutes or so to clean them with a wet wipe)
I've been told that the 3 litre is much better, but I borrowed my neighbours a year or so back when my wife was using my car and the only difference was that it wasn't quite so slow. However, the trade off was it was slightly more thirsty.
It easily draws with a recently owned manual Audi S4 cabriolet as being the worst car I've ever had the displeasure of owning.
We've gone back down the Jaguar route recently and have a black on black XE 2.2D R Sport. Despite having a few niggles meaning half a dozen or so trips back to the dealer, it's a lovely car. However, unfortunately it's been off the road for the last 12 weeks after we hit a badger as Jaguar haven't got round to cataloging all the parts yet, meaning that we are waiting for a bumper bracket.
Slow
So incredibly thirsty
Deeply uncomfortable (it gave me back ache and a dead leg every time I drove it)
Badly equipped
Poorly built
Badly designed (in winter time, the small front headlights salted up something chronic, meaning you had to stop every 30 minutes or so to clean them with a wet wipe)
I've been told that the 3 litre is much better, but I borrowed my neighbours a year or so back when my wife was using my car and the only difference was that it wasn't quite so slow. However, the trade off was it was slightly more thirsty.
It easily draws with a recently owned manual Audi S4 cabriolet as being the worst car I've ever had the displeasure of owning.
We've gone back down the Jaguar route recently and have a black on black XE 2.2D R Sport. Despite having a few niggles meaning half a dozen or so trips back to the dealer, it's a lovely car. However, unfortunately it's been off the road for the last 12 weeks after we hit a badger as Jaguar haven't got round to cataloging all the parts yet, meaning that we are waiting for a bumper bracket.
Edited by schmalex on Friday 10th June 20:28
Edited by schmalex on Friday 10th June 20:32
My dad had one of these and he has the worst taste in cars imaginable. It is a truly horrid car. He had one at the same time that my mum had the Mondeo that it was based on. The Mondeo was less expensive, had a nicer interior (in Titanium X trim), much more legroom and felt equally as fast even though it was a 130bhp 2.0 diesel and my Dad had the 3.0 petrol. It obviously went about half as far on the same amount of fuel. The X-Type also made you look like a middle aged boring tosser that couldn't afford a real luxury saloon but thought they were too important to drive a Mondeo. And that was when they were new. In about 10 years you might start to look slightly quirky and maybe even a bit of Hipster, by driving one now you like like a middle aged boring tosser that couldn't afford a real luxury saloon but thought they were too important to drive a Mondeo but are too dull and devoid of spirit to even bother buying a more interesting car in all that time.
Other than that, good shed, well done.
Other than that, good shed, well done.
I have an X Type. It's the 2.0d. Bought it in March this year.
Really can't understand any of the negative comments on them. It's a genuinely nice place to sit. Not overly sporty, but it's not meant to be. Although it has less roll and feels somewhat taughter than my Inpreza Turbo. It's quiet, refined and comfortable. The diesel is ok, not overly quick. But ok.
On a rational level there is nothing wrong with it at all.
Really can't understand any of the negative comments on them. It's a genuinely nice place to sit. Not overly sporty, but it's not meant to be. Although it has less roll and feels somewhat taughter than my Inpreza Turbo. It's quiet, refined and comfortable. The diesel is ok, not overly quick. But ok.
On a rational level there is nothing wrong with it at all.
I was thinking if this car was in the US, I'd buy it at that price and see what happens. I used to look for awd X types, and never saw one in this price range, but it's been a few years since I was regularly looking so maybe they went down in price.
Apparently, the exchange rate is such that Shed price is around $1,500 dollars.
I basically found this exact same car...two years newer, but otherwise same mileage and even same paint.
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/ctd/5627747868.htm...
2006 *Jaguar X-Type* 3.0L AWD 4dr Sedan
Offered by: Chicago Car Guys — (773) 786-9841 — $5,999
Clean Carfax, No Accidents, No Stories! Classic British Racing Green Over Tan! Power Heated Leather Seats, Power Moon-Roof, Digital Automatic Climate Control, And Key-Less Entry Too
They want $6,000 or roughly 4 times Shed limit.
Apparently, the exchange rate is such that Shed price is around $1,500 dollars.
I basically found this exact same car...two years newer, but otherwise same mileage and even same paint.
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/ctd/5627747868.htm...
2006 *Jaguar X-Type* 3.0L AWD 4dr Sedan
Offered by: Chicago Car Guys — (773) 786-9841 — $5,999
Clean Carfax, No Accidents, No Stories! Classic British Racing Green Over Tan! Power Heated Leather Seats, Power Moon-Roof, Digital Automatic Climate Control, And Key-Less Entry Too
They want $6,000 or roughly 4 times Shed limit.
I never understood all the snide comments back in the day about a Mondeo in drag - most of these comments came from the same magazines that raved about the Mondeo and one or two decided a Mondeo was at least as good as a 3 Series, but then rated a 3 Series better than an X-Type in a Group Test?!
A work colleague of mine had a new 2 litre diesel estate in metallic Green with cream leather back in around 2005 and I loved the interior (I had a 320td Compact at the time) but the X-Type did sound much more agricultural than my BMW.
I remember thinking that a 3 litre manual ought to be pretty entertaining when they depreciated enough (as they have now) but that picture of rust is worrying!
Shame really as I haven't owned a Jaguar yet, and owning ones feels like one of those boxes that needs ticking one day for any petrolhead! (Mind you I haven't owned an Alfa yet either - 2 Fiats put me off Italian cars for good).
A work colleague of mine had a new 2 litre diesel estate in metallic Green with cream leather back in around 2005 and I loved the interior (I had a 320td Compact at the time) but the X-Type did sound much more agricultural than my BMW.
I remember thinking that a 3 litre manual ought to be pretty entertaining when they depreciated enough (as they have now) but that picture of rust is worrying!
Shame really as I haven't owned a Jaguar yet, and owning ones feels like one of those boxes that needs ticking one day for any petrolhead! (Mind you I haven't owned an Alfa yet either - 2 Fiats put me off Italian cars for good).
theJT said:
I never understood why people didn't like these. My dad still has a 2003 Mondeo ST220 and it's a fabulous car. It's comfortable, it's easy to drive, it holds the road in a way that nothing that size has any right to. Ok, it's not _fast_ by today's standards, but to call it slow would be ridiculous. Then a Jag like this comes along with basically the same engine, same chassis but 4 wheel drive and a nicer interior and no one likes it. Very strange, I always thought.
I agree with you. The car looks nice, looks like a Jag with traditional Jag elements such as a luxurious wood and leather interior and yet has the attraction of Ford mechanicals meaning ease of servicing, wide availability of parts, etc.I think the problem is the whole 'mixed breeding' syndrome/bias. Go back far enough and dogs (!) were either pure-bred (ie pedigree) or cross-bred (mongrels). These days terms have been invented for these cross-breeds such as cockerpoo, labradoodle, etc, etc. All very amusing and modern but in the end they are still mongrels - a prejudice (which I don't actually share) that affected the Jaguar X-Type and its relative lack of success. All that long-standing traditionalism about Jaguars and Fords based on this cross-breeding argument came into play and worked against the car's ultimate acceptance.
As said, if you can accept the car purely on its merits as transport then I don't see a problem with owning and driving one.
Last month we did a charity challenge where you had to buy a car for £500, meet at Blenheim palace, go to Silverstone then drive to France and for some challenges (inc going to Abbeville racetrack for more challenges). We used a 2.5 X-type jag. cost £500, fsh, 90+k on the clock, only needed 1 new tyre. Handled all the abuse it got (even when tracked) without any problem, no fluid leaks, overheating or breakdowns unlike a Vauxhall, Skoda, VW and Ford all of which destroyed themselves.
Over the weekend I became quite attached to the jag, it worked perfectly (for a £500 car) and drove quite well, electric windows, c/clocking, air con, cd changer all worked. cruised really well although for £500 it did have a few problems, air con did get ice cold but was stuck on windscreen (so your face would get nicely cooled), battery in key fob was flat, noisy wheel bearing and it did have rusty sills. It's not very big inside, except the boot, but it was comfy.
The 2.5 does need to be abused to get any performance out of it, no low down power and brakes didn't seem very strong but I got used to that when racing it round the track.
Wish I'd have kept it until it's MOT runs out sometime next year and just run it round, possibly even track it just down the road at Snetterton to see if I could have broken it.
Over the weekend I became quite attached to the jag, it worked perfectly (for a £500 car) and drove quite well, electric windows, c/clocking, air con, cd changer all worked. cruised really well although for £500 it did have a few problems, air con did get ice cold but was stuck on windscreen (so your face would get nicely cooled), battery in key fob was flat, noisy wheel bearing and it did have rusty sills. It's not very big inside, except the boot, but it was comfy.
The 2.5 does need to be abused to get any performance out of it, no low down power and brakes didn't seem very strong but I got used to that when racing it round the track.
Wish I'd have kept it until it's MOT runs out sometime next year and just run it round, possibly even track it just down the road at Snetterton to see if I could have broken it.
edwheels said:
silentbrown said:
My old 3.0 Sport manual, looking uncharacteristically clean. Sold in 2011 for chips
Original Aruba wheels had all turned into thrupenny bits, so replaced with Valencias(?)
That's looks very nice. The wheels also really suit it well.Original Aruba wheels had all turned into thrupenny bits, so replaced with Valencias(?)
Lovely upgrade rim.
soad said:
daemon said:
Why are some people obsessed with the fact it has a cassette player?
You can replace it with the CD player version for under £50 off of ebay.
I wouldn't want either. Ipod connection a must. You can replace it with the CD player version for under £50 off of ebay.
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