RE: Audi SQ5 Plus: Review
Discussion
I was on a tour last year with one of these in the mix. Handling, lack of communication, say what you like, this thing went like s
t and the driver was easily managing to fling it round highland roads at a pace that surprised everyone!! Looks like it corners just fine from where I was sitting.
t and the driver was easily managing to fling it round highland roads at a pace that surprised everyone!! Looks like it corners just fine from where I was sitting."Is it a knockout?"
Sure. At 2+ tonnes, whatever, or rather whoever, you hit, you'll go through.
Yep, this is yet another critique on the weight of these behemoths. Fully laden with family and crap, god only knows how much it'll weigh then.
The vehicular arms race is vulgar and crass. If people say things like "I only bought it so I could see over the traffic ahead of me", then what happens when everyone else does the same. Stupidity at its finest.
Sure. At 2+ tonnes, whatever, or rather whoever, you hit, you'll go through.
Yep, this is yet another critique on the weight of these behemoths. Fully laden with family and crap, god only knows how much it'll weigh then.
The vehicular arms race is vulgar and crass. If people say things like "I only bought it so I could see over the traffic ahead of me", then what happens when everyone else does the same. Stupidity at its finest.
Have been considering these now we have a second child because the 640d isn't the most spacious thing inside for four with an isofix base and baby seat, the SQ5 offers very similar performance/economy with a welcome dose of practicality(god I sound like a boring old fart!).
I do like these a lot to be fair, not been up close and personal to one though so don't really know how roomy the boot/rear seats are though.
I do like these a lot to be fair, not been up close and personal to one though so don't really know how roomy the boot/rear seats are though.
Dan Trent said:
smilo996 said:
Change the wheels and Logo, hey presto, a Porsche.
Or look under the skirts of a Macan, spot all the chassis/powertrain components with four rings stamped on them and, hey presto, an Audi with 20 per cent added to the price!Dan
richyd said:
Or just buy a Macan as it steers better and only costs £2500 more (true Dan, I specced 'em both when I bought our Macan), and enjoy near zero depreciation. It's by far the cheapest option in the real world. Oh, and did I mention it steers better...?
You've got me there! Dan
Dan Trent said:
Or look under the skirts of a Macan, spot all the chassis/powertrain components with four rings stamped on them and, hey presto, an Audi with 20 per cent added to the price!
Dan
Actually Dan - for a professional journo, I'm really surprised and disappointed to see you mis-quote something so badly. A Diesel Macan retails at £46k before options. The car in your article is quoted at just over £50k, £55k once specced. Dan
I don't see a 20% price differential anywhere...??? Shoddy work mate.
Sure, Porsche options are expensive, but a well-specced Macan (incl sports seats, panoramic roof, phone prep, bigger wheels, privacy etc etc) will still come in just south of £55k - Mine did. You also seem to forget the host of differences in the cars, and how they drive. PDK box.... is that Audi..? Interior, Audi..? Styling...Audi? Suspension setup and tuning.?? Steering feel....?
Come on mate!
Bhuvsta said:
ahenners said:
Alucidnation said:
What the fk is with this obsession with vague steering and understeer?
So what?
Near enough everyone that purchases this will not be necessarily pushing this car anywhere near its limits.
Jesus.
Might as well just buy the 2.0TDI S Line Plus and save £15k then.k is with this obsession with vague steering and understeer?So what?
Near enough everyone that purchases this will not be necessarily pushing this car anywhere near its limits.
Jesus.
It's a hoot. As a second car for lugging round a pregnant OH and then a post pregnant OH, with baby and all the crap that entails, towing a RIB and general family in the sticks duties, it does what it says on the tin brilliantly. Never checked the fuel consumption, but others are seeing 40+ and for 2 tonne 0-60 in 5 second tank, that's good going. The only negative is the nav/mmi is a bit old hat, but it all works well enough.
When without OH and the heir, it's comically quick. To anyone who thinks a Q5 with a 2 litre oil burner is a better choice - only if you want to make progress at glacial speeds - we've got a 16 plate 2.0 Diesel A4 on the drive as a courtesy car today from Portsmouth Audi - it's an asthmatic, clattery bag of spanners under the bonnet - god knows how it would pull something the size of a Q5 along.
When without OH and the heir, it's comically quick. To anyone who thinks a Q5 with a 2 litre oil burner is a better choice - only if you want to make progress at glacial speeds - we've got a 16 plate 2.0 Diesel A4 on the drive as a courtesy car today from Portsmouth Audi - it's an asthmatic, clattery bag of spanners under the bonnet - god knows how it would pull something the size of a Q5 along.
richyd said:
Dan Trent said:
Or look under the skirts of a Macan, spot all the chassis/powertrain components with four rings stamped on them and, hey presto, an Audi with 20 per cent added to the price!
Dan
Actually Dan - for a professional journo, I'm really surprised and disappointed to see you mis-quote something so badly. A Diesel Macan retails at £46k before options. The car in your article is quoted at just over £50k, £55k once specced. Dan
I don't see a 20% price differential anywhere...??? Shoddy work mate.
Sure, Porsche options are expensive, but a well-specced Macan (incl sports seats, panoramic roof, phone prep, bigger wheels, privacy etc etc) will still come in just south of £55k - Mine did. You also seem to forget the host of differences in the cars, and how they drive. PDK box.... is that Audi..? Interior, Audi..? Styling...Audi? Suspension setup and tuning.?? Steering feel....?
Come on mate!
Dan Trent said:
smilo996 said:
Change the wheels and Logo, hey presto, a Porsche.
Or look under the skirts of a Macan, spot all the chassis/powertrain components with four rings stamped on them and, hey presto, an Audi with 20 per cent added to the price!Dan
How much do you believe that they are the same? They look very different. Different interiors. Different engines. Similarities in the chassis but significantly worked over. Does that make them the same car?
And do I detect that you're maturing from your SUV-hatred?!
richyd said:
Actually Dan - for a professional journo, I'm really surprised and disappointed to see you mis-quote something so badly. A Diesel Macan retails at £46k before options. The car in your article is quoted at just over £50k, £55k once specced.
Ah, but that's the beauty of specs, stats and options - I'm sure with the necessary time and inclination we could probably both prove ourselves right! 
Your point isn't entirely without basis though, I'll take that. Though on the other hand I was astonished to see the number of £65-£70K *used* Macan Diesels for sale at OPCs. And if we're talking hp/£ the Audi remains considerably better value. Until you start figuring in stuff like, y'know, steering and suspension!
Dan
aston addict said:
Dan, are you sure about your comment 'They're still fundamentally the same car though'?
How much do you believe that they are the same? They look very different. Different interiors. Different engines. Similarities in the chassis but significantly worked over. Does that make them the same car?
And do I detect that you're maturing from your SUV-hatred?!
From cabin space to Audi-stamped suspension components on both I'd say there's enough hardware similarity there to back the comment up, although of course if calibration, set-up and some additional optional features (eg. air suspension) make a big difference to the way they drive. I do wonder if the Porsche would have done things differently with a bespoke platform - in the Macan Turbo I drove you could feel body flex/scuttle shake with the PASM in its firmest setting and, relatively speaking, the Q5 is an old platform to be using. How much do you believe that they are the same? They look very different. Different interiors. Different engines. Similarities in the chassis but significantly worked over. Does that make them the same car?
And do I detect that you're maturing from your SUV-hatred?!
And maturing? I have less of an issue with the next size of car up to be honest - these ones are nearly as heavy, not much smaller on the road but seem a lot more compromised on interior space. Can't argue they're popular, profitable products and simply catering to demand though!
My first thought when opening the SQ5 up though? 'This would be mega in an A6 Avant!' Maybe I'm just a bit of a traditionalist!
Dan
Dan Trent said:
aston addict said:
Dan, are you sure about your comment 'They're still fundamentally the same car though'?
How much do you believe that they are the same? They look very different. Different interiors. Different engines. Similarities in the chassis but significantly worked over. Does that make them the same car?
And do I detect that you're maturing from your SUV-hatred?!
From cabin space to Audi-stamped suspension components on both I'd say there's enough hardware similarity there to back the comment up, although of course if calibration, set-up and some additional optional features (eg. air suspension) make a big difference to the way they drive. I do wonder if the Porsche would have done things differently with a bespoke platform - in the Macan Turbo I drove you could feel body flex/scuttle shake with the PASM in its firmest setting and, relatively speaking, the Q5 is an old platform to be using. How much do you believe that they are the same? They look very different. Different interiors. Different engines. Similarities in the chassis but significantly worked over. Does that make them the same car?
And do I detect that you're maturing from your SUV-hatred?!
And maturing? I have less of an issue with the next size of car up to be honest - these ones are nearly as heavy, not much smaller on the road but seem a lot more compromised on interior space. Can't argue they're popular, profitable products and simply catering to demand though!
My first thought when opening the SQ5 up though? 'This would be mega in an A6 Avant!' Maybe I'm just a bit of a traditionalist!
Dan
Maybe you're right and it's better to go for the next size up, although they seem to be a lot bigger, esp. on the outside.
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