RE: Rolls-Royce Dawn: Review
Discussion
bashracing said:
It Would look great in Monaco, But just looks ostentatious on the Banks of the Ouse
I think this is the reality. Driving around the South of France or Italian Lakes , this car is right at home. Driving it on the M1 from Luton, or a standard retail park to go to Argos anywhere in the UK, and you just look like a berk.
Cars are all about context. I am mindful of the other extreme to this RR - only last week driving in an affluent part of rural Berkshire, I chanced upon a road warrior in a Caterham wearing a crash helmet. The passengers in my car poured scorn on the guy and totally took the piss. He was probably a PHer and thought he was a Driving God, a proper PH hero. Context is everything.
A well written review with just the right amount of cynicism & criticism.
This is one cleverly marketed vulgar Chavmobile for the obscenely tasteless rich.
It will offend many in the UK but RR care not a toss as most will be sold to the global Super Rich.
Being born of pure British parentage & an admirer of our engineering heritage looking at this barge of the highway gives me no sense of pride whatsoever.
This is one cleverly marketed vulgar Chavmobile for the obscenely tasteless rich.
It will offend many in the UK but RR care not a toss as most will be sold to the global Super Rich.
Being born of pure British parentage & an admirer of our engineering heritage looking at this barge of the highway gives me no sense of pride whatsoever.
WJNB said:
Being born of pure British parentage & an admirer of our engineering heritage looking at this barge of the highway gives me no sense of pride whatsoever.
What a strange perspective. Please elaborate.There has always been rich people in the world. Rolls Royce has always provided motor cars for that market.
These days, the money is in developing countries, where egos are large and extravagance is still fashionable. This is no different to the 1920 and 1930s, the 1950's through to the 70's, when Rolls Royce made cars for the same market. These cars are made with care by dedicated people in the UK. Thousands of households in the UK have food on the table and their mortgages paid because of these cars.
They are examples of precision engineering produced by people in Britain who are proud of their work and rightly so. They are not to my taste, but that is not the point.
There is just as much pride to be taken from engineering that produces a quiet, soft, luxurious ride, as there is pride to be taken in the engineering that makes a McLaren P1 so fast.
I cannot begin to understand where you are coming from. Please explain.
WJNB said:
A well written review with just the right amount of cynicism & criticism.
This is one cleverly marketed vulgar Chavmobile for the obscenely tasteless rich.
It will offend many in the UK but RR care not a toss as most will be sold to the global Super Rich.
Being born of pure British parentage & an admirer of our engineering heritage looking at this barge of the highway gives me no sense of pride whatsoever.
And what, prey tell, do you drive to give you such a deep understanding of 'Britishness' and 'heritage'This is one cleverly marketed vulgar Chavmobile for the obscenely tasteless rich.
It will offend many in the UK but RR care not a toss as most will be sold to the global Super Rich.
Being born of pure British parentage & an admirer of our engineering heritage looking at this barge of the highway gives me no sense of pride whatsoever.
Jealousy is such a disease in the UK. I am glad you defined your bloodline, a position of strength from which to try and ridicule the 'global Super Rich' and this car which apparently is so awful!
When I was a kid, I did a bit of Geography, and one of the subjects we learnt about was some bunch of farmers in Africa who showed their wealth in terms of head of cattle. The bloke with the most cattle was the winner - condition didn't matter, the fact that they were all about to die of thirst didn't matter, it was all about having the biggest number. I remember thinking that they must be a bunch of 'tards to farm like that, and couldn't make head or tail of it. This car is the same thing: spectacularly pointless, it exists only to show that the owner is loaded. It is the "I'm rich" iphone app wrought in automotive form.
Rolls in the 70s had a point. You could drive a "normal" car which was rattly and uncomfortable. You could drive a Jag, which was comfortable, less rattly but you were still aware of the world around you. Or you could drive a Rolls, which took comfort to another level. I remember a mates dad had one, and it was a stunning thing, you were barely aware that you were moving. So, er, a bit like a 5 series or any other exec saloon today.
Its engineering going in the wrong direction. It's less efficient, no particularly innovative features, ridiculous tat grafted on to it to appeal to our baser instincts. Look at the "other" Rolls-Royce - screwing together jet engines, taking material science way beyond what is reasonable and making it work reliably for thousands of hours. That is engineering to be proud of. This is "meh".
I get entirely that loads of people are employed making these things, and good luck to them, I hope they sell like hot cakes.
Rolls in the 70s had a point. You could drive a "normal" car which was rattly and uncomfortable. You could drive a Jag, which was comfortable, less rattly but you were still aware of the world around you. Or you could drive a Rolls, which took comfort to another level. I remember a mates dad had one, and it was a stunning thing, you were barely aware that you were moving. So, er, a bit like a 5 series or any other exec saloon today.
Its engineering going in the wrong direction. It's less efficient, no particularly innovative features, ridiculous tat grafted on to it to appeal to our baser instincts. Look at the "other" Rolls-Royce - screwing together jet engines, taking material science way beyond what is reasonable and making it work reliably for thousands of hours. That is engineering to be proud of. This is "meh".
I get entirely that loads of people are employed making these things, and good luck to them, I hope they sell like hot cakes.
Blackbird425 said:
jdw1234 said:
Absolutely fantastic.
However, if I had that much spare cash to spend on a car I don't think I could bring myself to buy a new car.
I think I would have this instead...
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C756501
What he said. That Corniche is magnificent However, if I had that much spare cash to spend on a car I don't think I could bring myself to buy a new car.
I think I would have this instead...
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C756501
WJNB said:
A well written review with just the right amount of cynicism & criticism.
This is one cleverly marketed vulgar Chavmobile for the obscenely tasteless rich.
It will offend many in the UK but RR care not a toss as most will be sold to the global Super Rich.
Being born of pure British parentage & an admirer of our engineering heritage looking at this barge of the highway gives me no sense of pride whatsoever.
What is this 'pure British'?This is one cleverly marketed vulgar Chavmobile for the obscenely tasteless rich.
It will offend many in the UK but RR care not a toss as most will be sold to the global Super Rich.
Being born of pure British parentage & an admirer of our engineering heritage looking at this barge of the highway gives me no sense of pride whatsoever.
I think it looks suitably understated and reserved, yet stunningly svelt and luxurious, everything a rolls should be.
Its a sad fact that as sure as they'll always be people with money there will always be the have not's with a suitably big chip on their shoulders...in this country at least
Its a sad fact that as sure as they'll always be people with money there will always be the have not's with a suitably big chip on their shoulders...in this country at least
ZesPak said:
yonex said:
ZesPak said:
If this was the type of car I was after, I'd have the S Convertible every time.
But, it would be a nice choice to have.
My God, how utterly dull in comparison!But, it would be a nice choice to have.
Like I said, good choice to have.
A couple of points I wish to highlight. First the target demographic for this car is 45 years old and self made; they are not orange, footballers or fat northern comedians. This information is not cooked up by a RR marketing team but are actually the people than currently buy a RR. They are also likely to have a fleet of at least 10 other cars a number of which are likely to be supercars. The old stereotype no longer exists
Second, I can’t understand why people have a go at the colour scheme as RR will paint a Dawn in whatever colour you like, and it’s pretty much the same for the interior. What I find interesting is that a very large percentage of buyers have ordered their Dawn's in the launch colour scheme which you can seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J28RpHCQEjY Blue and orange may not sound good on paper but is looks amazing in the flesh.
I have just employed someone current working RR who has promised me a tour of the factory before she joins us. I just wish I had enough wedge to able to place an order at the same time. I think it’s probably one of the best looking cars on the market at the moment and I don’t actually like RR
Second, I can’t understand why people have a go at the colour scheme as RR will paint a Dawn in whatever colour you like, and it’s pretty much the same for the interior. What I find interesting is that a very large percentage of buyers have ordered their Dawn's in the launch colour scheme which you can seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J28RpHCQEjY Blue and orange may not sound good on paper but is looks amazing in the flesh.
I have just employed someone current working RR who has promised me a tour of the factory before she joins us. I just wish I had enough wedge to able to place an order at the same time. I think it’s probably one of the best looking cars on the market at the moment and I don’t actually like RR
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