People that drive 50 on motorways - why?

People that drive 50 on motorways - why?

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SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

219 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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plastictoast said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
plastictoast said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Intentionally driving at 20mph under the limit should be an offense.
Yes, because as we all know, the speed limit is the speed at which you must drive at all times, irrespective of your better judgement. laugh
Why do you "Speed limits are not targets" sorts always assume people that want to make progress have binary throttle pedals? I'm allowed to do 70, so I'm going to do 70 thanks. Or considerably more if I feel like it.
But you're not moaning about yourself - you're moaning about other people. What you're saying is that other people should drive at a certain speed. I'm pointing out that that's stupid. You can't make a rule like this because those other people might not be able to drive safely (or think they can't) at 70 for whatever reason.
No I'm not. I'm saying people should keep pace with the flow of traffic, not hinder it. Considerably more people want to get from A to B as quickly as possible, than those who are happy to plod along at 50. Like I say, keep the traffic moving for the good of everybody, not the minority who amble along like slugs. And as we have said in this thread repeatedly, if these people can't drive safely on motorways, or are afraid to drive on them, what the fruiting hell are they doing on them in the first place?


SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

219 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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plastictoast said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
I'm allowed to do 70, so I'm going to do 70 thanks. Or considerably more if I feel like it.
And I'm not rising to that bait... you can drive as fast as you like. But that's your choice. How slowly other people drive is their choice. See how it works?
But the speeds I choose to drive at don't force HGVs into the faster moving lanes. See how it works?

spookly

4,011 posts

94 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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cpjitservices said:
I generally sit between 60 and 70, although the Galaxy was dreadful at 60 so a little under was usually bearable.

I am yet to figure out, why, if I am doing 70, Drivers come speeding past me ? OK 70 wont be accurate but still.. They go hurtling past at a great rate of knots.

How is it they don't end up with speeding fines ? Why do they not get caught exceeding the speed limit ?



Edited by cpjitservices on Friday 24th June 13:01
It's this new thing the kids are doing called observation. HTH

spookly

4,011 posts

94 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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cpjitservices said:
Indeed, I'd not long passed my test.

We all do stupid things from time to time..

I like to think I'm a better driver for it.
Just wow. You were a tiny bit of luck away from a Darwin award.

Nigel_O

2,858 posts

218 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
But the speeds I choose to drive at don't force HGVs into the faster moving lanes. See how it works?
But it almost certainly forces faster moving traffic into the lanes with slower moving traffic - same net result (ie people slowing down) - you can't have it both ways....

AJXX1

334 posts

118 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
No I'm not. I'm saying people should keep pace with the flow of traffic, not hinder it. Considerably more people want to get from A to B as quickly as possible, than those who are happy to plod along at 50. Like I say, keep the traffic moving for the good of everybody, not the minority who amble along like slugs. And as we have said in this thread repeatedly, if these people can't drive safely on motorways, or are afraid to drive on them, what the fruiting hell are they doing on them in the first place?
Completely agree with this. Every time people driving at pitiful speeds is brought up on here the same pathetic argument is dredged up to defend them "it's a limit not a target!" - No.

While I understand that some people drive slower or more cautiously than others, that's perfectly fine to a degree. However once you're doing 20 MPH below the limit then you're causing a serious hindrance/obstruction to other road users.

Let us not forget that "progress" is now part of the driving test and doing any of the below can result in a fail;

Appropriate speed:

Crawls along at slow speeds on clear roads.
Makes no attempt to achieve maximum speeds for the road when safe to do so.
Reduces speed excessively when the conditions do not merit doing so.
Makes slow progress through the gears in normal driving.

IMO if you're doing one or more of the above you should be pulled over and subjected to an on the spot fine for causing an obstruction.


Edited by AJXX1 on Friday 24th June 16:09

robinessex

11,046 posts

180 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Is driving at 1 Lepton of the agenda now then ?

Digby

8,230 posts

245 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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The kind of thread that makes you wonder what some of the posters are doing on a motorist forum.

"I will NOT travel at, or near, motorway speeds on a motorway....now, where can I sign up to tell the world of this?"

PistonFeds - Speed never matters

TwigtheWonderkid

43,248 posts

149 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Digby said:
The kind of thread that makes you wonder what some of the posters are doing on a motorist forum.

"I will NOT travel at, or near, motorway speeds on a motorway....now, where can I sign up to tell the world of this?"

PistonFeds - Speed never matters
This is the kind of drivel that makes me despair of motoring forums, that everyone is possessed with either speed or acceleration.

You can be a motoring enthusiast into bubble cars, 70s mopeds, etc. My mate rides a 1927 Harley. It weights a tonne and has about 15 hp I think. It would never get anywhere near 70. It takes half a mile to stop from about 40. Is he not allowed to be a PH?

spookly

4,011 posts

94 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Digby said:
The kind of thread that makes you wonder what some of the posters are doing on a motorist forum.

"I will NOT travel at, or near, motorway speeds on a motorway....now, where can I sign up to tell the world of this?"

PistonFeds - Speed never matters
This is the kind of drivel that makes me despair of motoring forums, that everyone is possessed with either speed or acceleration.

You can be a motoring enthusiast into bubble cars, 70s mopeds, etc. My mate rides a 1927 Harley. It weights a tonne and has about 15 hp I think. It would never get anywhere near 70. It takes half a mile to stop from about 40. Is he not allowed to be a PH?
Quite. But I think everyone here would argue that there should not be on a motorway.

I would ban anything from motorways that cannot get up to 70mph in a reasonable time and maintain at least 70mpg up hills. With an obvious exception for HGVs.

In between doing my CBT and DAS a friend and I borrowed the crappy 125's from the riding school to take them out for a day of practice. Going up the A38 towards Bristol airport we become a rolling roadblock, as the bikes just didn't have the runt to maintain 50mph up the hill. Never rode something so gutless ever again and never would.

I also wouldn't want to have too little power on a motorway. I could and have (many years ago) driven a little 1.0 litre stbox on the motorway that could take a week to 70 and slows down on hills..... never would again. Having the power to accelerate out of dangerous situations or pass quickly is almost as useful for keeping you safe as your brakes are.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,248 posts

149 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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spookly said:
Having the power to accelerate out of dangerous situations or pass quickly is almost as useful for keeping you safe as your brakes are.
I've never been convinced by this argument. It smacks to me of something people say to justify having a far more powerful vehicle than they need. Nothing wrong with having a powerful car or bike, but just say you got it because you wanted it, not because "I need to have power to get out of danger."

When you're in a dangerous situation, very rarely is accelerating the answer. The only times I've ever had to accelerate out of danger is when I've done something daft to put myself in danger, like pulled out of a side road when I should have waited. And if I'd had a less powerful car in the first place, I would have waited.

Pete317

1,430 posts

221 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Digby said:
The kind of thread that makes you wonder what some of the posters are doing on a motorist forum.

"I will NOT travel at, or near, motorway speeds on a motorway....now, where can I sign up to tell the world of this?"

PistonFeds - Speed never matters
This is the kind of drivel that makes me despair of motoring forums, that everyone is possessed with either speed or acceleration.

You can be a motoring enthusiast into bubble cars, 70s mopeds, etc. My mate rides a 1927 Harley. It weights a tonne and has about 15 hp I think. It would never get anywhere near 70. It takes half a mile to stop from about 40. Is he not allowed to be a PH?
...but he'd never go anywhere near a motorway on it now, would he!

E65Ross

34,943 posts

211 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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SlimJim16v said:
60mph is acceptable, 50mph isn't.
This. I sometimes drive at 60mph if it's clear and I'm in no hurry. It's nice to just pootle along in peace and quiet.... But any slower is just ridiculous.

Poisson96

2,098 posts

130 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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I do between 60 and 70 (indicated 66 to 77) The car doesnt have enough power to sit at 70 up some motorway hills. It wasnt designed for motorway work in all fairness. If i can keep to it, everyone else should if their car can.

Telecaster_

66 posts

93 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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I do approx 40k a year, these mongs do my fking head in. There is absolutely no need for any car to be overtaken by a HGV. If your journey is such a laid back affair that you can do 50 on the motorway then do everyone a favour and take the scenic B road route, motorways are for a purpose and that is the swift movement of large volumes of traffic between destinations, it's not somewhere for retards to play the uber Eco game.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,248 posts

149 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Pete317 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Digby said:
The kind of thread that makes you wonder what some of the posters are doing on a motorist forum.

"I will NOT travel at, or near, motorway speeds on a motorway....now, where can I sign up to tell the world of this?"

PistonFeds - Speed never matters
This is the kind of drivel that makes me despair of motoring forums, that everyone is possessed with either speed or acceleration.

You can be a motoring enthusiast into bubble cars, 70s mopeds, etc. My mate rides a 1927 Harley. It weights a tonne and has about 15 hp I think. It would never get anywhere near 70. It takes half a mile to stop from about 40. Is he not allowed to be a PH?
...but he'd never go anywhere near a motorway on it now, would he!
Yes, he's ridden it to shows across the country and will often use the motorway. It's actually very reliable, but slow and with shocking brakes. Hand gear change also. Must admit, I haven't had the guts to ride it, even though he's offered.

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

210 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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E65Ross said:
This. I sometimes drive at 60mph if it's clear and I'm in no hurry. It's nice to just pootle along in peace and quiet.... But any slower is just ridiculous.
Try this on the M25. I can happily sit at 50 in the inside Lane and more than a few times come side by side with those driving from way faster in the other lanes.

That's the joy of busy motorways... traffic jams just around the bend.

swisstoni

16,845 posts

278 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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drivin_me_nuts said:
E65Ross said:
This. I sometimes drive at 60mph if it's clear and I'm in no hurry. It's nice to just pootle along in peace and quiet.... But any slower is just ridiculous.
Try this on the M25. I can happily sit at 50 in the inside Lane and more than a few times come side by side with those driving from way faster in the other lanes.

That's the joy of busy motorways... traffic jams just around the bend.
Not to mention berks causing all trucks to overtake.

DS197

992 posts

105 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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swisstoni said:
Not to mention berks causing all trucks to overtake.
Whats wrong with causing trucks to overtake on a three lane motorway? As long as they don't speed up and act like idiots.

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

210 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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swisstoni said:
drivin_me_nuts said:
E65Ross said:
This. I sometimes drive at 60mph if it's clear and I'm in no hurry. It's nice to just pootle along in peace and quiet.... But any slower is just ridiculous.
Try this on the M25. I can happily sit at 50 in the inside Lane and more than a few times come side by side with those driving from way faster in the other lanes.

That's the joy of busy motorways... traffic jams just around the bend.
Not to mention berks causing all trucks to overtake.
And donny fk wit zipping along at 90 in his s line 2metres behind the car in front.