People that drive 50 on motorways - why?
Discussion
AH33 said:
If you're driving a thirsty car at 50-60 to save a few mpg, sell it and get a diesel, skintflints.
If you're driving an ecobox at 50-60 to save a few mpg, get the train, weirdo.
If you're driving at 50-60 because you're scared, hand in your license, old man.
If you're driving at 56 because you're in a lorry - you're ok. This is the only acceptable reason to do so.
If you're on a busy motorway stuck in traffic clearly this does not apply.
yeah, this.If you're driving an ecobox at 50-60 to save a few mpg, get the train, weirdo.
If you're driving at 50-60 because you're scared, hand in your license, old man.
If you're driving at 56 because you're in a lorry - you're ok. This is the only acceptable reason to do so.
If you're on a busy motorway stuck in traffic clearly this does not apply.
jmorgan said:
leggly said:
jmorgan said:
Work around them, not hard. Its the ones that play along the 54-57 mph that are a pain.
It is if you're restricted to the inside lane.veccy208 said:
There's a reason that motorways have more than one lane. Guess what that reason is.... Yes that's right for overtaking slower vehicles.
You're either not getting it, or you're lucky enough to live in an uncongested part of the country. It's the shuffling around each other of 50mph'ers and HGVs that is causing the problem. It's like a slow motion Waltz of HGV creeping past pensioner, pensioner gets bored, creeps past HGV again. Rinse and repeat. That's 2 lanes wasted whilst they are fannying about, which = a borked DC for however long it takes for them to get on with it, or a heavily congested Lane 3 on a Motorway. This is why all you see on DCs these days, is a long snake of brake lights in the outside lane.veccy208 said:
Everyone is entitled to drive within a reasonable range of speed for whatever reason they think reasonable.
Fine, if the roads are quiet and being a crawler doesn't affect anyone else, but the roads aren't quiet are they? Some roads have crawler lanes with a picture of a HGV on a sign post. Does that not give people a clue as to where HGVs belong in general? And therefore, if you drive a car at 50, forcing them into the middle lane.....it's going to be a nuisance, no? With the volume of traffic these days, we don't have the luxury of rigid lane discipline anymore, but one would expect a certain level of common sense though. I.e. you're in a car. It can travel at 70, the HGV cannot, therefore speed the feck up. Do these morons ever look in the mirror and think "Oh there's a bit of a queue behind me, I'd better push the gas pedal and get on with it"? No they just sit their like zombies crawling past at their stupidly slow 'reasonable' pace.
Intentionally driving at 20mph under the limit should be an offense. I don't give a rat's if people are trying to save a few pennies or just ambling along because THEY are not in a hurry. It's selfishness in the face of keeping the roads flowing at a reasonable & legal pace for everybody else. And pace is the keyword. Either keep it, or stay off the roads.
maccas99 said:
I'm very surprised that there isn't a minimum speed limit for motorways, common misconception I guess.
This...so many other countries have minimum speeds on the motorways. Where I just was at in the US the interstate speed limit was 75 with a 55 minimum speed and the traffic moved along wonderfully.fivepointnine said:
This...so many other countries have minimum speeds on the motorways. Where I just was at in the US the interstate speed limit was 75 with a 55 minimum speed and the traffic moved along wonderfully.
A bit different given their lane rules. Besides it varies state to state and nobody seems to enforce it outside of a major city. fivepointnine said:
maccas99 said:
I'm very surprised that there isn't a minimum speed limit for motorways, common misconception I guess.
This...so many other countries have minimum speeds on the motorways. Where I just was at in the US the interstate speed limit was 75 with a 55 minimum speed and the traffic moved along wonderfully.England - the home of motorsport. Pah. How can a country steeped in motorsport heritage be home to such an overwhelming number of clueless cretins behind the wheel?
Blame MSE forum and that hyper Martin bloke and his quotes about your right foot being connected to your bank account.
Those types are easily spotted either, they are drafting an artic or the antics are getting pissed off and over taking them or like the one I saw recently on the M1, where the drivers drafting skills had run out and was embedded in the back of an artic, and yes it had the MSE sticker in the back window.
Those types are easily spotted either, they are drafting an artic or the antics are getting pissed off and over taking them or like the one I saw recently on the M1, where the drivers drafting skills had run out and was embedded in the back of an artic, and yes it had the MSE sticker in the back window.
plastictoast said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Intentionally driving at 20mph under the limit should be an offense.
Yes, because as we all know, the speed limit is the speed at which you must drive at all times, irrespective of your better judgement. 
There are loads of 80+ drivers round my way driving in slo-mo, but I'd rather they did that than floor it, tbh.
spookly said:
AH33 said:
If you're driving a thirsty car at 50-60 to save a few mpg, sell it and get a diesel, skintflints.
If you're driving an ecobox at 50-60 to save a few mpg, get the train, weirdo.
If you're driving at 50-60 because you're scared, hand in your license, old man.
If you're driving at 56 because you're in a lorry - you're ok. This is the only acceptable reason to do so.
If you're on a busy motorway stuck in traffic clearly this does not apply.
yeah, this.If you're driving an ecobox at 50-60 to save a few mpg, get the train, weirdo.
If you're driving at 50-60 because you're scared, hand in your license, old man.
If you're driving at 56 because you're in a lorry - you're ok. This is the only acceptable reason to do so.
If you're on a busy motorway stuck in traffic clearly this does not apply.
DeolTheBeast said:
spookly said:
AH33 said:
If you're driving a thirsty car at 50-60 to save a few mpg, sell it and get a diesel, skintflints.
If you're driving an ecobox at 50-60 to save a few mpg, get the train, weirdo.
If you're driving at 50-60 because you're scared, hand in your license, old man.
If you're driving at 56 because you're in a lorry - you're ok. This is the only acceptable reason to do so.
If you're on a busy motorway stuck in traffic clearly this does not apply.
yeah, this.If you're driving an ecobox at 50-60 to save a few mpg, get the train, weirdo.
If you're driving at 50-60 because you're scared, hand in your license, old man.
If you're driving at 56 because you're in a lorry - you're ok. This is the only acceptable reason to do so.
If you're on a busy motorway stuck in traffic clearly this does not apply.
bmw535i said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
veccy208 said:
Good Grief! I'm glad some people on here aren't running this country!
- Thou shalt not go slower than the speed LIMIT.
There's a reason that motorways have more than one lane. Guess what that reason is.... Yes that's right for overtaking slower vehicles.
The problem is not the slow drivers but the fast, pushy, I won't give way to anyone type who block people from merging into next lane or cause a concertina effect by driving up peoples boots and breaking at every change in speed that cause bad traffic/accidents etc.
Everyone is entitled to drive within a reasonable range of speed for whatever reason they think reasonable.
slow down show consideration and you might just find that you get there as quick and a lot less stressed out.
This is the correct answer.- Thou shalt not go slower than the speed LIMIT.
There's a reason that motorways have more than one lane. Guess what that reason is.... Yes that's right for overtaking slower vehicles.
The problem is not the slow drivers but the fast, pushy, I won't give way to anyone type who block people from merging into next lane or cause a concertina effect by driving up peoples boots and breaking at every change in speed that cause bad traffic/accidents etc.
Everyone is entitled to drive within a reasonable range of speed for whatever reason they think reasonable.
slow down show consideration and you might just find that you get there as quick and a lot less stressed out.
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Fine, if the roads are quiet and being a crawler doesn't affect anyone else, but the roads aren't quiet are they?
They are where I live 
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Intentionally driving at 20mph under the limit should be an offense. I don't give a rat's if people are trying to save a few pennies or just ambling along because THEY are not in a hurry. It's selfishness in the face of keeping the roads flowing at a reasonable & legal pace for everybody else. And pace is the keyword. Either keep it, or stay off the roads.
50 is fine but I agree it needs to be with consideration. If every road user thought ahead and was courteous, there would be a lot less congestion.plastictoast said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Intentionally driving at 20mph under the limit should be an offense.
Yes, because as we all know, the speed limit is the speed at which you must drive at all times, irrespective of your better judgement. veccy208 said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Fine, if the roads are quiet and being a crawler doesn't affect anyone else, but the roads aren't quiet are they?
They are where I live SuperchargedVR6 said:
Intentionally driving at 20mph under the limit should be an offense. I don't give a rat's if people are trying to save a few pennies or just ambling along because THEY are not in a hurry. It's selfishness in the face of keeping the roads flowing at a reasonable & legal pace for everybody else. And pace is the keyword. Either keep it, or stay off the roads.
50 is fine but I agree it needs to be with consideration. If every road user thought ahead and was courteous, there would be a lot less congestion.Thinking and reading ahead is another thread of it's own! There are many ways to reduce congestion but most of them are thwarted in the South East by the sheer volume of traffic. And the usual story of many of the DCs and Motorways being built in the 60s, for 60s traffic.
I bet if the limit was reduced to 50 to fit in with current trends, the the old 50'ers will start doing 30 instead. Damned if you do.....
SuperchargedVR6 said:
plastictoast said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Intentionally driving at 20mph under the limit should be an offense.
Yes, because as we all know, the speed limit is the speed at which you must drive at all times, irrespective of your better judgement. Motorways would work much better if everyone was on the same page (in some case the same book would be an improvement). 50 mph on a fairly empty stretch is not really going to cause too many problems.
When it's busy and lane 1 is slowed down to 50, those that want to do 55 find themselves in lane 2. Those that want to do 60 then move out into lane 3. You are then stuck in heavily congested traffic among drivers who have not had enough forward vision and are not expecting an entire motorway to be moving noticeably slower than it's 70mph limit, for no apparent reason.
I generally do not care if some people have the luxury of all the time in the world, but drive to the conditions and not become an obstruction, it is dangerous, if only because of other people's poor standards of driving and anticipation.
On the argument that 50 is the speed at which some people feel confident, I would suggest that a modern motorway is not the place for them. This is entirely my mothers argument for refusing to drive on one.
When it's busy and lane 1 is slowed down to 50, those that want to do 55 find themselves in lane 2. Those that want to do 60 then move out into lane 3. You are then stuck in heavily congested traffic among drivers who have not had enough forward vision and are not expecting an entire motorway to be moving noticeably slower than it's 70mph limit, for no apparent reason.
I generally do not care if some people have the luxury of all the time in the world, but drive to the conditions and not become an obstruction, it is dangerous, if only because of other people's poor standards of driving and anticipation.
On the argument that 50 is the speed at which some people feel confident, I would suggest that a modern motorway is not the place for them. This is entirely my mothers argument for refusing to drive on one.
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